Success Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Would he be happy with the DC job? No way. If McDermott stays, it's always going to be his vision on D. And Belichick will likely only take a HC job. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) Just now, Success said: No way. If McDermott stays, it's always going to be his vision on D. And Belichick will likely only take a HC job. Is there even a slight possibility that McD won’t be the HC? I don’t believe so Edited January 23 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Success said: Been thinking about this all day: If we hire Belichick - who would likely come here - do we stand a better chance of advancing farther in the playoffs, or a worse chance? That is the ONLY question right now. And it's a no-brainer of an answer. There aren’t many players on this roster that he would keep so it would require a tear-down year, then some better, more physical players would come in. He probably wouldn’t keep these OL either. I would be fine with it, but most would probably freak out. We’d be playing real defense, that’s for sure. Edited January 23 by Governor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryMadman Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Would he be happy with the DC job? Bring in Vrabel to run the defense and when Belichick retires in a couple years Vrabel becomes HC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, Governor said: There aren’t many players on this roster that he would keep so it would require a year-down year, then some better, more physical players would come in. He probably wouldn’t keep these OL either. I would be fine with it, but most would probably freak out. I thought about that. But he may be more flexible on that kind of thing, since he likely won't coach for enough time to cover a rebuild of any kind. It's probably a longshot. But the guy went to the SB every other year, and was a regular in the AFCCG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, Success said: I thought about that. But he may be more flexible on that kind of thing, since he likely won't coach for enough time to cover a rebuild of any kind. It's probably a longshot. But the guy went to the SB every other year, and was a regular in the AFCCG. Yeah, probably right. He would work with some and change scheme a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 14 minutes ago, Success said: Been thinking about this all day: If we hire Belichick - who would likely come here - do we stand a better chance of advancing farther in the playoffs, or a worse chance? That is the ONLY question right now. And it's a no-brainer of an answer. Bill wins us the superbowl next season if hired now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I dont want to read 31 pages of arguing...so can anyone give me the cliff notes regarding if there is actually any info out there that remotely suggests McD might be replaced? Because all I have seen is statements from insiders saying McD is going nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: I dont want to read 31 pages of arguing...so can anyone give me the cliff notes regarding if there is actually any info out there that remotely suggests McD might be replaced? Because all I have seen is statements from insiders saying McD is going nowhere. Baring a miracle McDermott will not be fired...pegula isn't a football guy and as long as we win a playoff game and revenue keeps streaming in he is perfectly content with losing in the divisional round every season 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I dont want to read 31 pages of arguing...so can anyone give me the cliff notes regarding if there is actually any info out there that remotely suggests McD might be replaced? Because all I have seen is statements from insiders saying McD is going nowhere. There isn't. It's just the standard venting after a loss. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I think the floor with Josh is probably 8 wins so it wouldn’t even be a painful rebuild. Vrabel is another option but we’ve never seen him with a quality QB. Would he coach Josh up or wreck him? A bit of an unknown there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 9 minutes ago, LarryMadman said: Bring in Vrabel to run the defense and when Belichick retires in a couple years Vrabel becomes HC. And Harbaugh to run the Special Teams … 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 And just a last thought - imagine the change in narrative if we hired Belichick. Right now, we're the 2nd coming of the Rivers/Chargers teams. We've hit our ceiling. And worst of all - we'll never get past KC. We're really the subject of some ridicule today, and while I think everyone respects that we're a decent team, no one takes us too seriously. In the fall, it won't matter if we're going undefeated. Everyone will say "show it to me in the playoffs for once." Bring in Belichick, and the NFL world would be turned upside down. There would be fear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 On 1/21/2024 at 10:02 PM, Heavy Kevi said: We desperately need to make the switch. We needed to last year, maybe even the year before; but the reality here is that McD is COOKED Yes we are as soon as you are hired GM or buy the team. Otherwise there is no "We". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) For me the biggest issue was lack of creativity and trotting AJ out to deal with Travis. Seriously that was McD’s plan ? AJ is washed. It was such a ridiculous decision. Mahomes and Maauto looked like two kids playing ball in the backyard. Edited January 23 by PayDaBill$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 13 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Yes we are as soon as you are hired GM or buy the team. Otherwise there is no "We". "We" in this case is common used colloquially in pro sports by fans of the team to denote fan association. And don't count me out. You never know, maybe I'll get into fracking next and buy the team. ***** maybe I'll even hire myself as GM to make sure I cover all the bases of "we" eligibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, Heavy Kevi said: "We" in this case is common used colloquially in pro sports by fans of the team to denote fan association. And don't count me out. You never know, maybe I'll get into fracking next and buy the team. ***** maybe I'll even hire myself as GM to make sure I cover all the bases of "we" eligibility. Panthers need you more or even the JEST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 6 hours ago, Billever76 said: Let's put thing in perspective in our 4 playoff losses 3 vs kc and 1 vs Cincinnati McDermott defense has forced 5 TOTAL PUNTS IN 4 GAMES Go get Bill belichick and we turn into a dynasty with allen at qb McD was the D coordinator this year, Leslie was DC on those others. Putting things in perspective means taking into account the injuries, you can't ignore them. It also means taking into account all of this season not just the last game. He got them to the playoffs, there were points his banged up D was better than our healthy O. There was a marked difference between what the D did when healthy & what it did after loosing players the last 2 games leading up to KC. & Bill Belichick would be a disaster here. He would demand to be GM too, so Beane would be out, & that's an incredibly mediocre roster he built in NE. He doesn't do mobile QBs who invent on the fly. Josh would love having his wings clipped by that guy. McD may ultimately have to go, but after the job he did w/ the D this year as a whole, he gets another year (no way Pegula will fire him right now) & not a hope in hell it'll be for Belichick. After next year maybe they'll move on for McD, if so I would hope they'd go w/ a young OC minded head coach (somehow I suspect McD gets more than next year from Pegula though). Edited January 23 by Donuts and Doritos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 6 hours ago, Success said: I thought about that. But he may be more flexible on that kind of thing, since he likely won't coach for enough time to cover a rebuild of any kind. Hmm. I doubt it. Bill's defense works because he has VERY specific profiles of what he wants in each spot and assigns values to people that match up. I think he'd like Rousseau, Tre White if he can ever get back healthy and at their peak he'd have LOVED the safeties. I might be missing one or two but there is a lot of guys on this defense who would not be Belichick scheme fits. He might make do with Milano for a year because I think he'd love the character and the motor. But he isn't necessarily a natural Belichick linebacker. EDIT: I enter into this as purely a thought exercise by the way. In reality there is zero point zero per cent chance it happens. Edited January 23 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 It's almost certainly not going to happen but it is worth considering. Dan Reeves and John Elway had alot of success together for several years but could never win a Super Bowl...and they got a to couple of them together and just couldn't get over the Hump. Dan Reeves was a really good football coach and he took Atlanta to their first Super Bowl after he was fied from Denver. It wasn't that Reeves was bad, but he'd clearly gone about as far as he was going to go with Elway and they moved on to Mike Shanahan, who was alot more innovative on offense and they eventually won back to back in 98 and 99 at the very end of Elways career...RIGHT BEFORE it was too late. Clearly McDermott is a good coach. He's overseen the transition for the Bills from a bad team, to one that made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor, to drafting and overseeing the development of Josh Allen, who was very talented, but very very raw and he has seen that through with amazing results. All these things are great accomplishments to be celebrated. But....it seems like he's taken this as far as he can....either he's at the limits of his skills and capacity as a coach...stricken by bad luck...message is getting tired and old...or probalby some combo of all that. Making the decision to continue on with McDermott as HC isn't a referendum on him being a good or bad coach. He is a very good coach...but it's rather a choice to give a new or fresh voice and ideas a try where McDermotts methods have stalled. I very much doubt a change is forthcoming, but it's worth considering IF you think there is a guy out there that has a vision, plan and credibility to go farther. I don't know who that person would be. I also don't think McDermott is your coach when and if you win a super bowl. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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