RangerDave Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, SoMAn said: The mentality of the 'fire McDermott' crowd is beyond stupid. I guess if a team doesn't win the Superbowl within 5 years or so, the head coach should be dismissed. Brilliant. Of course, there's never any real solution offered by those voices. Just "fire the coach". The NFL landscape is littered with fired coaches who were sure-fire candidates from the coordinator ranks. Who's your answer? What can't miss coach is coming to Buffalo? Are you such a gambler that you'll put all your chips on a coordinator with no track record over the guy who's led his team into the playoff in 6 out of 7 seasons? Maybe you'd prefer a retread like Belichick or Carroll. No thanks. Personally, I wouldn't make that bet. The better odds are that we'd be right back to the good old days of wishing we made the playoffs. Compare the past 7 years of Bills football to the previous 17. At least we've had a chance! We've had a very entertaining team we can be proud of. The Bills under McDermott have fielded a competitive squad every year under his guidance. They've developed mid-round players into valuable contributors. Free agents want to come to Buffalo. He has the respect of those who play under him. We have a team that should be competitive every year. I'm grateful that the revolving door of Jauron, Mularkey, Williams, Ryan, etc. is a distant memory. Be thankful that we have someone a classy as McDermott leading our Bills today and for the foreseeable future. You may not realize it yet, but these are the good old days There are some who believe that 31 coaches a year should be fired. If you don't win the championship, you're out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 No! hasn’t been relevant in quite some time, talk about a retread hire…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Way to hijack this thread @Governor! The OP intended to discuss hiring Rivera and you totally derailed the thread. Save your rants till after this upcoming game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Very unlikely imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 He’ll end up in a Senior Defensive Assistant role. Bobby Babich or Eric Washington will be DC, but in title only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: Way to hijack this thread @Governor! The OP intended to discuss hiring Rivera and you totally derailed the thread. Save your rants till after this upcoming game. I was attacked by the paid McD apologists. I have to defend myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) McD can’t refrain from meddling on the defensive side when there is a DC and you can’t have more than one cook in the kitchen. Edited January 18 by Charles Romes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just now, Charles Romes said: McD can’t refrain from meddling on the defensive side and you can’t have more than one cook in the kitchen. he's not meddling. He coaches the defense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 52 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Similarly the Marty comparison.... McDermott in 6 playoff seasons already has as many wins as Marty had in 13. The better comparison IMO is Bill Cowher. He made the playoffs his first 6 years (McD 6 of 7), was 1 and done the first two years (so was McD) but then was winning playoff games without winning the big one (I know they made and lost a Superbowl in there). That is not me saying he is bound to win one in the end like Cowher did, and Cowher didn't have Josh Allen, I get that. But in terms of coaches who it feels can't get over the playoff hump McDermott is much more comparable to Cowher than to Marty or Marv. I also hate the Marty Schottenheimer comparison. The guy was 5-18 in 23 playoff games. It's not even a comparison. Some people speak without thinking sometimes and don't realize how off base they are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 53 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Similarly the Marty comparison.... McDermott in 6 playoff seasons already has as many wins as Marty had in 13. The better comparison IMO is Bill Cowher. He made the playoffs his first 6 years (McD 6 of 7), was 1 and done the first two years (so was McD) but then was winning playoff games without winning the big one (I know they made and lost a Superbowl in there). That is not me saying he is bound to win one in the end like Cowher did, and Cowher didn't have Josh Allen, I get that. But in terms of coaches who it feels can't get over the playoff hump McDermott is much more comparable to Cowher than to Marty or Marv. If McD can’t win with Allen the best comp may be 90‘s Dolphins? Can’t win despite elite QB. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: The only way he was getting fired here this year is if, from 6-6, the team quit on him and collapsed down the stretch. If we'd finished 6-11 instead of 11-6 and it looked like he had lost the locker room then all bets would have been off. But that didn't happen. Exactly if anything it showed the opposite of the hit piece and the team plays hard for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 not sure what we need Ron for? McD has been great as DC. And Babbich should be next in line for DC after his work with the LBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Hate to see them lose Bobby Babatch because they hired RR as a DC, but we still may be a few years away from that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Governor said: Right but the season isn’t over. Let’s just say that something bad happens, the unthinkable happens, do you think anyone is going to remember the previous 6 wins? Do you think that after a career crushing loss, people will view that as the team rallying to their coach? I think as fans we should be mentally prepared for all possible outcomes. This would be #4. I mean, he’s already done it 3 out of 3 times. The following day people would be calling him Marv 2.0 for Christ’s sake. Well yea if the unthinkable happens maybe…problem is I can’t think of what the unthinkable could possibly be at this point lol.. the last chance the ‘fire McDermott’ crowd had was us getting stomped by pit imo dolphins blew a 14 point lead against Tennessee with time winding down en route to coughing up the division then got absolutely spanked by this same kc team and they’re rolling with their mcd lol. I’d say that’s a lot closer to unthinkable than whatever happens to us Edited January 18 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: not sure what we need Ron for? McD has been great as DC. And Babbich should be next in line for DC after his work with the LBs. he can be an assistant if he wants and help coach doesn’t mean he has to call plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 9 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: If McD can’t win with Allen the best comp may be 90‘s Dolphins? Can’t win despite elite QB. Yea possibly though that was multiple coaches after Shula wasn't it? Before my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Let’s consider the 37 points we put on his team at Fed Recked Stadium his job interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 33 minutes ago, Governor said: I was attacked by the paid McD apologists. I have to defend myself. I am not falling for your bait. You brought up the discussion about McD staying on as HC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 OP started this as a thread as Ron Rivera Bills DC? It devolved into Is McDermott Safe?. Back to the original topic: McDermott was Rivera's underling at the Panthers. Would both of them be comfortable flipping the table? Rivera is still a viable Head Coach and there are many opportunities open. McDermott has definite opinions on how a defense works; will Rivera be compatible with that? Is Rivera will to move to snow country? Or tax country? (I'm serious, Bflo loses many prospects to this) PS: McDermott should be and will be safe no matter what happens against the Chiefs. Firing talk is just silly talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thronethinker Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 5 hours ago, Governor said: McD isn’t really safe yet. He has to beat KC at home or all hell is gonna break loose. 0 chance McD gets fired unless there is just some major mixup that is 100% on the coach and costs the Bills the playoffs. With all the coaching vacancies the last thing that is going to happen is him getting fired after advancing to at least the divisional round 4 straight years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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