Mikie2times Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, SirAndrew said: How does Joe Buck definitively know that Decker didn’t report from that reply? Maybe someone can explain something I don’t understand. In the replay you see the two Lineman far away from the play walking to the ref. They were clearly reporting. The ref then starts to walk away toward the line of scrimmage right when the OT ran up with the rest of the players. He couldn't have spoke to him. It looked like the player assumed he was good. Perhaps by the other players interactions but I think YOU have to be the one to report. Not somebody on your behalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Bills Bud said: The NFL is rigged, hopefully they rig it for the Bills soon This year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, balln said: Can a player report on behalf of multiple players? even if he did report the ref said it’s still illegal for him to be a receiver - hes ineligible in that formation He would have only been ineligible because he didn't report. Had he reported it would have made the play clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Lmao. At the end they showed two lineman by the refs (one being 68) and then #70 comes running in. ***** Aikman goes there it is #70 checked in the other guy didn’t like he could hear what was going on down there. Total bull#### Edited December 31, 2023 by BananaB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 There was actually more than one foul on that play. The Detroit O really blew that one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Bud Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, Aussie Joe said: This year Maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, balln said: Can a player report on behalf of multiple players? even if he did report the ref said it’s still illegal for him to be a receiver - hes ineligible in that formation This. Even if the ref screwed up and didn't hear him report, the formation was illegal as-is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Yep. Going for Two points wreaks of desperation. Never play desperate football its the opposite of desperate its ridiculously aggressive which is how they played the whole game. they were all out on defense with pressure...every play leaving everyone singled up on the outside. this was detroit saying we are just going for it all night from start to finish. They lost on a Technicality. Its a shame because they made the play to win the game. no idea who declared eligible at the end but that is an awful way for the officials to change the outcome the flag was thrown 2 minutes after the play. if these two play again it would be in detroit, I would like to detroit in that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, Mikie2times said: He would have only been ineligible because he didn't report. Had he reported it would have made the play clean. Not according to the rules analyst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: How does Joe Buck definitively know that Decker didn’t report from that reply? Maybe someone can explain something I don’t understand. Yeah good question, the reply shows him talking to the ref while Buck is simultaneously saying you can see he didn’t report. Skipper, Decker. He must be confused. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman10 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bills Bud said: The NFL is rigged, hopefully they rig it for the Bills soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, sullim4 said: This. Even if the ref screwed up and didn't hear him report, the formation was illegal as-is. what was wrong with the formation? The penalty is for illegal touching by an ineligible receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 well Dan Campbell has some huevos grandotes I'll give him that. He just cut off his nose to spite his face just now though. Kick the extra point fcol. After that not reporting debacle that should have been a given. He was NOT changing his mind at all. That and the not reporting will be a grand topic in DTW tonight. I feel for their fans. Sucks to lose like THAT especially. woulda coulda shoulda galore 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Yep. Going for Two points wreaks of desperation. Never play desperate football going for it at the 7 just shows that Campbell has no faith in their ability to win in OT, dude clearly wanted to go home, win or lose. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, balln said: Not according to the rules analyst He was saying you could call either penalty. But both penalties are a result of him not reporting. When he wasn't covered by the WR he became eligible but he never reported so he couldn't be eligible. So had he done so it would have made him eligible and the formation legal. They're explaining exactly what I said earlier right now. Edited December 31, 2023 by Mikie2times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: going for it at the 7 just shows that Campbell has no faith in their ability to win in OT, dude clearly wanted to go home, win or lose. Exactly. He did the math in his head and knew that his defense was fading fast. This was his best chance for the win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: How does Joe Buck definitively know that Decker didn’t report from that reply? Maybe someone can explain something I don’t understand. He and Aikman both had their Cowboy jerseys on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: what was wrong with the formation? The penalty is for illegal touching by an ineligible receiver. I think this is correct Aikman was wrong twice … he did report and it wasn’t an illegal formation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcornpam Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Dan, if you’re gonna go for it you better have all your eyes dotted and your TEs crossed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Campbell has received lots of love from fans and media alike, and for good reason. I agreed with the initial decision, after the penalty he needed to kick the xtra point, he blew it and should receive criticism for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Definitely rigged. Both guys were trying to report and the official did his best to ignore them and run away. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Wow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, stevestojan said: That is about as undisciplined as you can get. As Aikman said, they practice that all week. How do you not make sure THAT guy reports? Unfortunately, it looks like he did in fact report in and the ref's got the number wrong lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: I think this is correct Aikman was wrong twice … he did report and it wasn’t an illegal formation Right, I hear people talking about illegal formation, but the ref didn’t call it. So I don’t understand people saying “it was an illegal formation anyway”. That’s not what they called, so the play would have stood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, DCOrange said: Unfortunately, it looks like he did in fact report in and the ref's got the number wrong lol. You’re right. I didn’t think that could be possible. Wow. That’s just BRUTAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 The thing is John Perry said there was actually 3 fouls on the lions you could have called they just chose the most controversial one lol That’s the Lions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, muppy said: well Dan Campbell has some huevos grandotes I'll give him that. He just cut off his nose to spite his face just now though. Kick the extra point fcol. After that not reporting debacle that should have been a given. He was NOT changing his mind at all. That and the not reporting will be a grand topic in DTW tonight. I feel for their fans. Sucks to lose like THAT especially. woulda coulda shoulda galore The Lions could've been flagged 15 yards on that 2 pt conversion and Campbell would've still gone for it. There's a fine line between aggressive and stupid. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, balln said: Can a player report on behalf of multiple players? even if he did report the ref said it’s still illegal for him to be a receiver - hes ineligible in that formation The ref commentator dude was saying because Decker did NOT report as eligible, there were a bunch of different penalties; the fact that he was ineligible and uncovered = penalty, the fact that he was ineligible and downfield = penalty, and the fact that he was ineligible and caught the ball = penalty. But if he reported as eligible, which the replay made it look like he did, all of that is washed away. He was legally lined up as a tight end and the refs just screwed up (again, IF he reported as eligible which it looks like he did on replay but you don't really know unless you heard what he said on the field). 4 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, SirAndrew said: Right, I hear people talking about illegal formation, but the ref didn’t call it. So I don’t understand people saying “it was an illegal formation anyway”. That’s not what they called, so the play would have stood. Aikman said so after the play… so people just repeating that … But appears he was wrong about that as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, SirAndrew said: Right, I hear people talking about illegal formation, but the ref didn’t call it. So I don’t understand people saying “it was an illegal formation anyway”. That’s not what they called, so the play would have stood. The ref didn't call it because they thought the lineman was ineligible. If that lineman was indeed eligible, it would have been an illegal formation flag. This article explains it well: https://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2012/5/10/3012755/inside-the-clemson-offense-tackle-eligible-formation#:~:text=Covered and uncovered are as,eligible to receive forward passes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 This is right up there with the fail mary that everyone used to scapegoat the replacement refs years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Covered- Ineligible 8 , the WR is covering the LT "8" which makes him ineligible X 8XOXX X X X X X Not Covered (What the Lions did) with 7 men on the LOS means the LT "8" is now eligible. Since he did not report as such it was an illegal formation. 8XOXX X X X X X X 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Covered- Ineligible 8 , the WR is covering the LT "8" which makes him ineligible X 8XOXX X X X X X Not Covered (What the Lions did) with 7 men on the LOS means the LT "8" is now eligible. Since he did not report as such it was an illegal formation. 8XOXX X X X X X X But it looks like he did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, Big Blitz said: But it looks like he did. Well, nobody can actually speak to what somebody else said. But this part of it is pretty black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman10 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Going full circle, watch this video...I totally believe its atleast "influenced" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Anyway … what an incredibly lucky win for the Cowboys … I think the Lions need to move on from Goff… he is never going to be good enough to win a SB… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Campbell’s post game presser is a mess 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Wow It’s complete horse 💩…either the ref is an incompetent moron and should be fired immediately for not knowing how to ref a game or he’s dirty and blew off decker clearly trying to report. Until the NFL holds refs accountable for making mistakes we will always have this BS that taints an otherwise awesome sporting event. Fix the problem by making them full time and accountable to get suspended and fired for doing a bad job. No more “tenured” lifetime gigs for these dudes with no repercussions for sucking at your job 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, Gman10 said: Going full circle, watch this video...I totally believe its atleast "influenced" This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, Mikie2times said: Well, nobody can actually speak to what somebody else said. But this part of it is pretty black and white. The ref ignored the Olinemen that clearly went over to him before the play it wasn’t to wish him a happy new year or tell him you’ve called a great game. Others will tell you it flat out looks like they were in the bag for Dallas. What would we say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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