Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Harold Carmichael was 6’8” but he ran a 4.6 , however he had great hands and could separate. Plaxico Burress was 6’5” and ran a 4.59. Calvin Johnson was 6’5” and ran a 4.35 . Randy Moss was 6’4” and ran a 4.3ish DK Metcalf was 6’4” and ran a 4.33 I can’t think of any other tall AND fast WRs . Can you help me list all 6’4” or taller WRs that also ran at least a 4.4 or faster. As of now, this metric appears perfect in determining success. If you are 6’4”+ and run fast, just draft them with confidence. After you help me list all the NFL players, can you help find me some of the tallest and fastest people that don’t play football. Usain Bolt is 6’5” and can run a 4.22 (Super Bowl, retired and in street clothes) . Imagine if he could have trained to be a football player. I wonder if it’s possible to be much taller than 6’5” and being able to run a 4.4 or faster. THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE INPUT! Calvin Johnson was 6’5” and ran a 4.35 (Elite) Randy Moss was 6’4” and ran a 4.3ish (Elite) DK Metcalf was 6’4” and ran a 4.33 (Elite) Christian Watson was 6’4” and ran a 4.36 (Good) Marquez Valdez-Scantling was 6’4” and ran a 4.37 (Meh) Stephen Hill was 6’5” and ran a 4.39 (Bad) Keyshawn Johnson was 6’4” and ran a 4.41 (Elite) Miles Boykin was 6’4” and ran a 4.42 (Bad) Chase Claypool was 6’4” and ran a 4.42 (Meh) Nico Collins was 6’4” and ran a 4.45 (Good?) Jalen Hurd was 6’5” and ran a 4.47 (Bad) AT Perry was 6’5” and ran a 4.47 (Bad-Meh?) Equanimeous St. Brown was 6’5” and ran a 4.48 (Meh) James Harty was 6’6” and ran a 4.49 (Bad) Dorian Green Beckham was 6’5” and ran a 4.49 (Bad) Limas Sweed was 6’4” and ran a 4.5 (Bad) AJ Green was 6’4” and ran a 4.5 (Elite) Michael Pittman Jr was 6’4” and ran a 4.52 (Good) Quentin Johnston was 6’4” and ran a 4.52 (Meh?) Mike Evans was 6’5” and ran a 4.53 (Elite) Mike Strachan was 6’5” and ran a 4.53 (Bad) Courtland Sutton was 6’4” and ran a 4.54 (Good) Allen Lazard was 6’4” and ran a 4.55 (meh) Mack Hollins was 6’4” and ran a 4.55 (Bad-Meh) Justin Shorter was 6’4” and ran a 4.55 (Bad-Meh?) Donald Hayes was 6’4” and ran a 4.57 (Bad) Drake London was 6’4” and ran a 4.58 (Good?) Tee Higgins was 6’4” and ran a 4.59 (Good) Plaxico Burress was 6’5” and ran a 4.59 (Good) Harold Carmichael was 6’8” and ran a 4.6 (Good) Sean Dawkins was 6’4” and ran a 4.61 (Good) Kelvin Benjamin was 6’5” and ran a 4.61 (Bad-Meh) Justyn Ross was 6’4” and ran a 4.64 (Bad?) Irvin Charles was 6’4” and ran a 4.66 (Bad?) Ed McCaffrey was 6’5” and ran a 4.69 (Good) Lil Jordan Humphrey was 6’4” and ran a 4.75 (Bad) Jake Bobo was 6’4” and ran a 4.99 (Bad) It appears that the 4.4 is a good approx line so far. 2 meh/bad 4 good/elite Edited December 19, 2023 by Araiza Curse 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Randy Moss is the most talented WR to ever play the position. End thread. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Calvin Johnson was a cheat code. The best WR I’ve ever seen play and it’s not even close. I don’t care what the arguments are for Rice. Johnson would have destroyed every Rice record if he played 17 years. Which would have been 4 years less than Rice. Dude was a monster. Edited December 19, 2023 by mrags 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mango said: Randy Moss is the most talented WR to ever play the position. End thread. I mean it’s between him and Megatron. But that isn’t helping me with my question. Can you list any others for my criteria? 2 minutes ago, mrags said: Calvin Johnson was a cheat code. The best WR I’ve ever seen play and it’s not even close. I don’t care what the arguments are for Rice. Johnson would have destroyed every Rice record if he played 17 years. Which would have been 4 years less than Rice. Dude was a monster. I’m trying to put together some statistical breakdowns though. I want to see just how much of a success rate it is for height+speed. Doesn’t necessarily need to be football players. Usain is the tallest sprinter that I know of. Fastest 6’4”+ basketball player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Mike Evans is 6’5” but he only ran a 4.53 Justin Shorter is 6’4” but runs a 4.55 I’d be curious to see where the statistical success rate for height starts to really tip the scales. I’d definitely consider Evans a success , but is obviously taller and faster than Shorter. Maybe I will try and list all 6’4” + wr and their respective 40 time. Edited December 19, 2023 by Araiza Curse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 The reason you can name those players is because they were successful. You wouldn't be able to name the bad receivers who were big and fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Collin Johnson (Giants) is 6’6” but runs a 4.65 , so it’s pretty obvious that anything slower than 4.53 is a danger zone potentially. 1 minute ago, MJS said: The reason you can name those players is because they were successful. You wouldn't be able to name the bad receivers who were big and fast. That’s what I’m asking for you all do to. Help me list all WRs that meet the requirement. Good or Bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: I mean it’s between him and Megatron. But that isn’t helping me with my question. Can you list any others for my criteria? I’m trying to put together some statistical breakdowns though. I want to see just how much of a success rate it is for height+speed. Doesn’t necessarily need to be football players. Usain is the tallest sprinter that I know of. Fastest 6’4”+ basketball player? Yeah that cannot add to. I’ll say this, as a former track athlete and huge fan of Usain Bolt. That man was a freak. It’s not usual to have a man with that height to be that fast/quick. But he was. He just gobbled up the track with his long legs. He was not always the fastest starter out of the blocks but his legs just ate up the track. Usually it’s shorter sprinters that have the quicker movement in their legs. Bolt was something special. Had everything. But that’s why his 200m WR is more impressive than his 100m WR. The 100m records have historically gotten faster and faster over time. But with the exception of Michael Johnson (another long legged freak) the 200m WR has stood since the 1970s. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Wanted to draft Equanimeous St. Brown the year we picked Allen. He's almost 6'5" and ran a 4.48 40. We passed on him for Ray-Ray in the 6th. Guess it didn't matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Wanted to draft Equanimeous St. Brown the year we picked Allen. He's almost 6'5" and ran a 4.48 40. We passed on him for Ray-Ray in the 6th. Guess it didn't matter. So far that is one good example of a meh player with criteria I asked for. Can you help list some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Stephen Hill was 6'5 210 and ran a 4.39 And he sucked 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Stephen Hill was 6'5 210 and ran a 4.39 And he sucked Nice, keep them coming. I’m genuinely curious of all sample sizes, good or bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 DGB ( Dorial Green Beckham) #1 HS player in his class Was 6'5 240 .. 4.49 40 Insane physical freak .. didn't care enough about football so he sucked Still drafted high solely on his skillset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Araiza Curse said: So far that is one good example of a meh player with criteria I asked for. Can you help list some more. Christian Watson. Ran a 4.36 at 6'4". Was fine with the Elam pick at the time but he was my draft crush. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Calvin Johnson was 6’5” and ran a 4.35 (Elite) Randy Moss was 6’4” and ran a 4.3ish (Elite) DK Metcalf was 6’4” and ran a 4.33 (Elite) Christian Watson was 6’4” and ran a 4.36 (Good) Stephen Hill was 6’5” and ran a 4.39 (Sucked) Equanimeous St. Brown was 6’5” and ran a 4.48 (Meh) Dorian Green Beckham was 6’5” and ran a 4.49 (Sucked) Mike Evans was 6’5” and ran a 4.53 (Elite) Justin Shorter was 6’4” and ran a 4.55 (Sucked-Meh?) Plaxico Burress was 6’5” and ran a 4.59 (Good) Harold Carmichael was 6’8” and ran a 4.6 (Good) It appears that the 4.4 is a good approx line so far. 1 bad 4 good Edited December 19, 2023 by Araiza Curse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Keep em coming guys, thanks this is fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 He doesn’t meet your criteria of being 6’5” but Brashad Perriman ran something like a 4.25. He’s 6’2” I think. He is like the perfect size and speed package. Seemed to always be nursing something. Or not giving his all. Similar to Sammy boo-boo foot Watkins as far as desire to play the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, mrags said: He doesn’t meet your criteria of being 6’5” but Brashad Perriman ran something like a 4.25. He’s 6’2” I think. He is like the perfect size and speed package. Seemed to always be nursing something. Or not giving his all. Similar to Sammy boo-boo foot Watkins as far as desire to play the game. 6’4” or taller. But yeah he is talented, and I don’t mind discussing it, just trying to compile a list of all samples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Chris collinsworth was 6'5 with a 40 in the 4.50s Make of him what you will ... Lmao But he could play for a stint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 38 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: I mean it’s between him and Megatron. But that isn’t helping me with my question. Can you list any others for my criteria? I’m trying to put together some statistical breakdowns though. I want to see just how much of a success rate it is for height+speed. Doesn’t necessarily need to be football players. Usain is the tallest sprinter that I know of. Fastest 6’4”+ basketball player? Pull a CSV file from pro football reference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mango said: Pull a CSV file from pro football reference. Can you isolate WR players height query? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 AJ Green 6’4” 4.5 (Elite) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: Can you isolate WR players height query? Once it’s in excel you should be able to filter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 James Hardy was 6'5 220 ... 4.49 40 And he wasn't a good NFL receiver RIP James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: Can you isolate WR players height query? Combine stuff is neatly on stathead now. PFR keeps moving stuff to their paid data. But it’s fairly cheap. https://stathead.com/football/player-season-finder.cgi?request=1&positions[]=wr&height_min=75 If you want to get real freaky you can just Vlookup and narrow it down with a second query by games, yards, TD’s etc. https://stathead.com/sharing/IEHp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 James Hardy 6’5 4.49 Limas Sweed 6’4 4.50 in the 2008 draft everyone was over-drafting the big receivers trying to find the next plax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Mango said: Randy Moss is the most talented WR to ever play the position. End thread. I think Calvin is right there with him, let's say 1a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Kelvin Benjamin misses out on another accolade? Shocking I say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Kelvin Benjamin misses out on another accolade? Shocking I say! He ran a 4.61 though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Araiza Curse said: Harold Carmichael was 6’8” but he ran a 4.6 , however he had great hands and could separate. Plaxico Burress was 6’5” and ran a 4.59. Calvin Johnson was 6’5” and ran a 4.35 . Randy Moss was 6’4” and ran a 4.3ish DK Metcalf was 6’4” and ran a 4.33 I can’t think of any other tall AND fast WRs . Can you help me list all 6’4” or taller WRs that also ran at least a 4.4 or faster. As of now, this metric appears perfect in determining success. If you are 6’4”+ and run fast, just draft them with confidence. After you help me list all the NFL players, can you help find me some of the tallest and fastest people that don’t play football. Usain Bolt is 6’5” and can run a 4.22 (Super Bowl, retired and in street clothes) . Imagine if he could have trained to be a football player. I wonder if it’s possible to be much taller than 6’5” and being able to run a 4.4 or faster. THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE INPUT! Calvin Johnson was 6’5” and ran a 4.35 (Elite) Randy Moss was 6’4” and ran a 4.3ish (Elite) DK Metcalf was 6’4” and ran a 4.33 (Elite) Christian Watson was 6’4” and ran a 4.36 (Good) Marquez Valdez-Scantling was 6’4” and ran a 4.37 (Meh) Stephen Hill was 6’5” and ran a 4.39 (Bad) Keyshawn Johnson was 6’4” and ran a 4.41 (Elite) Miles Boykin was 6’4” and ran a 4.42 (Bad) Chase Claypool was 6’4” and ran a 4.42 (Meh) Nico Collins was 6’4” and ran a 4.45 (Good?) Jalen Hurd was 6’5” and ran a 4.47 (Bad) AT Perry was 6’5” and ran a 4.47 (Bad-Meh?) Equanimeous St. Brown was 6’5” and ran a 4.48 (Meh) James Harty was 6’6” and ran a 4.49 (Bad) Dorian Green Beckham was 6’5” and ran a 4.49 (Bad) Limas Sweed was 6’4” and ran a 4.5 (Bad) AJ Green was 6’4” and ran a 4.5 (Elite) Michael Pittman Jr was 6’4” and ran a 4.52 (Good) Quentin Johnston was 6’4” and ran a 4.52 (Meh?) Mike Evans was 6’5” and ran a 4.53 (Elite) Mike Strachan was 6’5” and ran a 4.53 (Bad) Courtland Sutton was 6’4” and ran a 4.54 (Good) Allen Lazard was 6’4” and ran a 4.55 (meh) Mack Hollins was 6’4” and ran a 4.55 (Bad-Meh) Justin Shorter was 6’4” and ran a 4.55 (Bad-Meh?) Donald Hayes was 6’4” and ran a 4.57 (Bad) Drake London was 6’4” and ran a 4.58 (Good?) Tee Higgins was 6’4” and ran a 4.59 (Good) Plaxico Burress was 6’5” and ran a 4.59 (Good) Harold Carmichael was 6’8” and ran a 4.6 (Good) Sean Dawkins was 6’4” and ran a 4.61 (Good) Kelvin Benjamin was 6’5” and ran a 4.61 (Bad-Meh) Justyn Ross was 6’4” and ran a 4.64 (Bad?) Irvin Charles was 6’4” and ran a 4.66 (Bad?) Ed McCaffrey was 6’5” and ran a 4.69 (Good) Lil Jordan Humphrey was 6’4” and ran a 4.75 (Bad) Jake Bobo was 6’4” and ran a 4.99 (Bad) It appears that the 4.4 is a good approx line so far. 2 meh/bad 4 good/elite Randy ran in the 4.2s! He had just as much straight line speed as Tyreek, just wasn’t as shifty. Of course you trade that shiftiness in for size and catch radius, which made him arguably the most feared WR the game has ever seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 7 hours ago, Mango said: Randy Moss is the most talented WR to ever play the position. End thread. Calvin Johnson says Hi Xavier Legette is 6'3" and runs a 4.3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Kevin Benjamin- 6’5 7.8 here you go- have at it https://nflcombineresults.com/nflcombinedata.php?year=2022&pos=&college= Edited December 19, 2023 by NewEra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 9 hours ago, Mango said: Randy Moss is the most talented WR to ever play the position. End thread. Megatron wasn't half bad either ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: James Hardy was 6'5 220 ... 4.49 40 And he wasn't a good NFL receiver RIP James He was for one play against the Jacksonville Jaguars, and that's how I'll choose to remember him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I'm going to start a thread on who was the slowest and shortest receiver to play in the NFL. Spolier alert: He played slot receiver for New England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 8 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I think Calvin is right there with him, let's say 1a. 2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Calvin Johnson says Hi Xavier Legette is 6'3" and runs a 4.3 24 minutes ago, T master said: Megatron wasn't half bad either ... Megatron was an absolute stud. But there is a reason I said Moss was the most talented WR ever and not the best WR ever. Other guys have gotten close to Moss or surpassed him based on consistent working as close as possible to their ceiling. But I don't think there was a better WR in the history of the sport than try hard Randy Moss. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 I will try and go through more examples today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I'm going to start a thread on who was the slowest and shortest receiver to play in the NFL. Spolier alert: He played slot receiver for New England. Janny Adelmola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Chris collinsworth was 6'5 with a 40 in the 4.50s Make of him what you will ... Lmao But he could play for a stint He had 4 seasons with 1k yards, will mark him down as elite for now. Do you have a link to approximate 40 time? I can’t find anything about his speed other than he was a 100m champion. Edited December 19, 2023 by Araiza Curse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Isaiah Hodgins is 6'4" 4.6 40 but the Bills felt the need to stash him on the PS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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