Joe Brady - What Do We Expect?

[Jukester]

Any insight on his philosophy, coahing style, etc... welcome.  Or is he just going to be a McD puppet?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Brady_(American_football_coach)

Coaching career

New Orleans Saints

In 2017, Brady was hired by the New Orleans Saints as an offensive assistant under head coach Sean Payton.

LSU

In 2019, Brady joined head coach Ed Orgeron and the LSU Tigers as their passing game coordinator and wide receivers coach.[1][2] Recognized as the top assistant coach during the 2019 college football season, Brady was honored with the 24th annual Broyles Award.[5] Subsequently, he emerged as a leading candidate for numerous offensive coordinator vacancies in the NFL,[6][7] but eventually agreed to a three-year contract extension with LSU.[8]

Carolina Panthers

On January 16, 2020, Brady was hired by the Carolina Panthers as their offensive coordinator under head coach Matt Rhule.[9] The Panthers were selected to coach in the 2021 Senior Bowl, but Brady missed the game due to COVID-19 protocols.[10] On December 5, 2021, Brady was fired by the Panthers.[11]

Buffalo Bills

On February 4, 2022, Brady was hired by the Buffalo Bills as their quarterbacks coach, replacing Ken Dorsey after his promotion to offensive coordinator. After Dorsey's mid-season firing in the 2023 season, Brady was promoted to interim offensive coordinator.[12]

Edited November 14, 2023 by Jukester

[Johnnycage46]

Another loss on Sunday.

[Big Turk]

Run the damn ball more when it is working and suck those LB's up for play action shots.

[Jukester]

Maybe just maybe, he can look at Josh's strengths and get back to those. 

- Play action from under center

- Designed rollouts and QB keepers

- Stop making him overthink things and be a dinker

- Maybe take a shot downfield once in a while

[Ramza86]

I expect a worse offense.

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Run the damn ball more when it is working and suck those LB's up for play action shots.

IIRC abandoning the run was a big reason why Carolina let him go.

Edited November 14, 2023 by Not at the table Karlos
Big not bug

[Jukester]

Just now, Ramza86 said:

I expect a worse offense.

 

We're pretty close to the floor already

[steven50]

what kind of offense did he run in Carolina?

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Fournette called up and the Bills to pound the rock. 

 

McDermott will have an even bigger say in the offense. 

[Big Turk]

Just now, Not at the table Karlos said:

IIRC abandoning the run was a bug reason why Carolina let him go.

 

The man had Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Darnold as his QBs...all he should have been doing is running 😂

[Nuncha]

4 minutes ago, Ramza86 said:

I expect a worse offense.

 

I don't think it could get much worse, but maybe it can?

[teef]

not much...not much.

[Not at the table Karlos]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

The man had Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Darnold as his QBs...all he should have been doing is running 😂

Wasn’t mccaffery still there as well with a decent back up?

[SirAndrew]

McD puppet is the correct answer, more Carolina connection. 

Edited November 14, 2023 by SirAndrew

[Big Turk]

Just now, Not at the table Karlos said:

Wasn’t mccaffery still there as well with a decent back up?

 

McCaffery was probably hurt like always for the year after a few games...only place he has been healthy has been SF

[Process]

Jets chiefs and cowboys in the next 4. 3 of the best defenses in the league with a brand new OC. That's tough. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

McCaffery was probably hurt like always for the year after a few games...only place he has been healthy has been SF

Yep. Just looked, he was injured. 

[NoSaint]

3 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Wasn’t mccaffery still there as well with a decent back up?

for part, and dealing with injury 

[gjv]

I'm hoping Brady can improve the fundamentals of our skilled players. 

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Process said:

Jets chiefs and cowboys in the next 4. 3 of the best defenses in the league with a brand new OC. That's tough. 

 

Maybe that's an advantage since they don't know what to expect tendency wise. 

[boyst]

1 minute ago, Process said:

Jets chiefs and cowboys in the next 4. 3 of the best defenses in the league with a brand new OC. That's tough. 

Big question mark on why the change came now before this stretch. 

 

Indictment of McChump

 

What did we see yesterday that was so much different than the other games? If anything he called a better game last night. Now heading into when it matters most, against our hardest stretch he put so much of task ahead of us that it is damn near impossible to recover.

 

This is poor management. The writing didn't just appear to fire him - it should have been done weeks ago if it was potential. 

[Tommy Callahan]

He got fired for not running it enough.  is known for a spread offense. but utilizes a lot of screens.

 

 

[GoBills808]

I don't think they're going to install much more than what's already in the playbook

 

The play calling might be different but I imagine overall it will conceptually look pretty similar

[DeltaDigital]

3 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

He got fired for not running it enough.  is known for a spread offense. but utilizes a lot of screens.

 

 

maybe he can figure out how to use our 9.5milliondollar tiny guy #11 in the screen game that has eluded, FOREVER. 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Hopefully he does less short yardage shotgun, more Philly Specials, and maybe not so many plays where 2-3 of our WRs are running routes in the same spot.

[TheBrownBear]

I don't think much changes.  Hoping for the best though.

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Hopefully he does less short yardage shotgun, more Philly Specials, and maybe not so many plays where 2-3 of our WRs are running routes in the same spot.

From the talk on twitter. he is a fan of bunch formations on one side one receiving option on the other.

 

 

[Yobogoya!]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

Big question mark on why the change came now before this stretch. 

 

Indictment of McChump

 

What did we see yesterday that was so much different than the other games? If anything he called a better game last night. Now heading into when it matters most, against our hardest stretch he put so much of task ahead of us that it is damn near impossible to recover.

 

This is poor management. The writing didn't just appear to fire him - it should have been done weeks ago if it was potential. 

 

Yeah you'd think he'd at least utilize the bye week for this change, so Brady could tweak and refine the offense at least a bit. 

 

Giving him a short week to prepare for that Jets D??

 

The timing definitely looks like McD is just trying to deflect from last night's performance. Hey, maybe the change invigorates the team for this matchup, but... well, I won't get my hopes up. 

[Warriorspikes51]

for the love of everything.....please take the route design of Gabe running into double zone coverage along the sideline OUT OF THE PLAYBOOK

 

it seems like every game that exact play is an int.  I'm sure every defense is well aware 

[GustheDog33]

8 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

McD puppet is the correct answer, more Carolina connection. 

The only connection to Carolina is that they both worked there.  They didn't work there at the same time.  Brady was there while McDermott was the HC here and had been for several years.  Not the connection you're looking for.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

I don't think they're going to install much more than what's already in the playbook

 

The play calling might be different but I imagine overall it will conceptually look pretty similar

 

Yep. No team installs an entire new playbook at week 11. I'd be interested to see at the bye whether they tweak some stuff but again it isn't going to be wholesale changes. Just a different guy looking at the call sheet and deciding on the play. 

 

We did see when Lynn took over for Roman though that it can lead to an uptick. Because no two people see the way to attack a certain defense exactly the same. I think one of Dorsey's problems this year has been finding a balance with the run game. And I don't mean overall run:pass ratios I mean he has drives where we only run and then drives where we only drop back. I am not sure he has found a flow to his playcalling. 

[CircleTheWagons99]

Im hopeing for a  offensive explosion but dont think Mcd wants that. 

[26TrapDraw]

17 minutes ago, Jukester said:

Maybe just maybe, he can look at Josh's strengths and get back to those. 

- Play action from under center

- Designed rollouts and QB keepers

- Stop making him overthink things and be a dinker

- Maybe take a shot downfield once in a while

What are you doing Sunday at 1?

[longtimebillsfan]

Really good discussion about the Bills on the Pat McAfee show.

 

Dan Orlovsky giving good analysis.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Just googled “Joe Brady Shotgun Draw”

[Rc2catch]

Brady did a decent job year one in Carolina I thought. Teddy Bridgewater had them in almost every game. Robbie Anderson and DJ Moore I think both had solid seasons that year. Year two it fell off the rails and Rhule scapegoated him. I think year two was Sam Darnold cause they traded away Bridgewater. 
I think Brady will give Mcdermott what he wants. Which in my opinion is establishing a run game and controlling the clock so the defense isn’t on the field 24/7. I doubt much changes scheme wise but I think he’ll do better calling a game and keeping the offense in rhythm. I do hope this is the end of RPO in Buffalo cause those throws to Gabe always seem to end badly or incomplete. 

[Donuts and Doritos]

Short week, so not much. More interested if han he right the ship for the long-term.

 

I'd bench Davis & move Shakir there. Run the offense through Digs, Kincaid, Shakir & Cook. But we'll see what changes he makes.

 

Edited November 14, 2023 by Donuts and Doritos

[BuffaloBill]

This article suggests there has been continuing interest in him from other teams.  Story suggests he climbed too quickly.  Maybe he learned some things to not repeat from his Carolina days.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/news/joe-brady-is-receiving-interest-for-offensive-coordinator-jobs

 

[GustheDog33]

9 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

I don't think they're going to install much more than what's already in the playbook

 

The play calling might be different but I imagine overall it will conceptually look pretty similar

I agree!!

 

The biggest thing a coordinator does week to week during the season, except for the bye, is decide which concepts are going into the game plan and where they fit on the play-sheet, mostly situationally.  So, the offense is not changing.  The plays and formations they have repped are the plays and formations they have.  That said, the plays they choose will be different, which might make all of the difference.  There is always discussion between the OC and the position coaches regarding the game plan and what is in and what is out.  Presumably, McD is in at least some of those meetings.  Push back is healthy in those meetings.  My guess is there was push back, but McD (rightly) let his OC have the final say.  He has now changed the decision maker, we'll see if it gets better.

[dave mcbride]

12 minutes ago, GustheDog33 said:

The only connection to Carolina is that they both worked there.  They didn't work there at the same time.  Brady was there while McDermott was the HC here and had been for several years.  Not the connection you're looking for.

Look at where Brady went to college and where he got his coaching start: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/BradJo0.htm.