Hebert19 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 That is all. Hope harris is ok...but we need to be making some calls for another RB/returner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 You are correct Wr 2 has been a sore spot for a long time. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Dorsey is terrible 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 We need more shotgun on 3rd and short situations. It's soooo effective.... 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 What IS Dorsey's offense? The playbook seems really thin, and the in-game decision making is more than questionable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I was happy last year when he was hired. But uhh, this ain't workin. I don't know what you do now though. We're kinda screwed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Bermuda Triangle said: We need more shotgun on 3rd and short situations. It's soooo effective.... Second down from the one....Josh in shotgun.....running play....loss of 2 Third down from the three....Josh under center....passing play....TD. Luckily it ended up in a TD, but second down from the one needs to be an under center play, IMO. Josh Allen with the "tush push" for the TD should have been the call on second down. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Sssoooo.... its just devolved into calling guys tools? As the Jets game proves, all the guy can do is call plays he thinks will put them into a good position. If the execution is poor, then he looks like a 'tool'. Does work need to be done? I assume so. He followed up the worst call (shotgun to a rb from the 1) with the best call and redeemed himself there. But at the end of the day, I consider myself a relatively aware football fan, but know that the success of the OC cant just be judged by the result of a play we see. Many times the play doesnt work. I just hope youve actually put in the work to make the assessment you claim here and as you are calling the guy a tool... well Im going to guess thats a no 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, gobills1212 said: Sssoooo.... it’s just devolved into calling guys tools? As the Jets game proves, all the guy can do is call plays he thinks will put them into a good position. If the execution is poor, then he looks like a 'tool'. Does work need to be done? I assume so. He followed up the worst call (shotgun to a rb from the 1) with the best call and redeemed himself there. But at the end of the day, I consider myself a relatively aware football fan, but know that the success of the OC cant just be judged by the result of a play we see. Many times the play doesnt work. I just hope youve actually put in the work to make the assessment you claim here and as you are calling the guy a tool... well Im going to guess thats a no This extreme criticism of an OC when you’ve got guys dropping multiple critical wide open passes on third down every week and your offensive line can’t pass block to save their lives is still a little wild to me. Like I can’t fully wrap my head around it. Running under center was getting decent yardage but you’re always one stuffed run away from being behind the chains which also happened multiple times this game. every play caller in the league struggles in those conditions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 37 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: I was happy last year when he was hired. But uhh, this ain't workin. I don't know what you do now though. We're kinda screwed. The same thing you did with Frazier. Make him decide to take a year off. And hire a madden tournament winner to run plays. Anything would be better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Pipe dream and i know it aint happening, especially in the time frame im looking for..... but mike mcdaniel gets fired and comes here for OC ****WHOS AN UP AND COMING UNDER SHANAHAN OR MCVAY? I WOULD GIVE SERIOUS LOOK THAT WAY UNLESS SOME PROVEN STUD OC FREES UP AND WANTS TO COME HERE**** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 58 minutes ago, gobills1212 said: Sssoooo.... its just devolved into calling guys tools? No, that happened a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Can Sean handle calling both? Mike Evans DJ Moore Hollywood Brown Jerry Jeudy Sutton those are the WR’s that MAY be available that could have the most impact 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Can Sean handle calling both? Mike Evans DJ Moore Hollywood Brown Jerry Jeudy Sutton those are the WR’s that MAY be available that could have the most impact Hell... I'd take Chris Godwin at this point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 How about Dawson Knox for Darren Waller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: How about Dawson Knox for Darren Waller I'd take Dawson's Creek over Dawson Knox right now 😎 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: This extreme criticism of an OC when you’ve got guys dropping multiple critical wide open passes on third down every week and your offensive line can’t pass block to save their lives is still a little wild to me. Like I can’t fully wrap my head around it. Running under center was getting decent yardage but you’re always one stuffed run away from being behind the chains which also happened multiple times this game. every play caller in the league struggles in those conditions Football has all types of 'fans' and for whatever reason, that type likes to come here and wear their keyboards out after anything less than an amazing game. To each their own, but at the detriment to the people with a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 6 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: You are correct Wr 2 has been a sore spot for a long time. Yeah, but ya gotta admit- nobody works out like Gabe…that’s gotta count for something…😉 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 This offense is set up to flow through Allen and Diggs. That's it. WR2, WR3 the RBs... afterthoughts fighting for scraps. The TEs are non-existent. Maybe if we had a RT that didn't need constant hand holding it could result in our TEs being more than outlet throws. Week in and week out we see on the All 22 guys are open just to see Allen constantly push the ball to Diggs. Just last night Allen had Cook WIDE open in the middle of the field and took a scramble run instead. This offense doesn't need more guys running around watching Diggs catch passes. They need to use what they have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: This offense is set up to flow through Allen and Diggs. That's it. WR2, WR3 the RBs... afterthoughts fighting for scraps. The TEs are non-existent. Maybe if we had a RT that didn't need constant hand holding it could result in our TEs being more than outlet throws. Week in and week out we see on the All 22 guys are open just to see Allen constantly push the ball to Diggs. Just last night Allen had Cook WIDE open in the middle of the field and took a scramble run instead. This offense doesn't need more guys running around watching Diggs catch passes. They need to use what they have I think in the Miami game there was a reasonably good job of spreading the ball around. Edited October 16, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) We don't have a true assessment of the talent we have. Who's to say they'd know what to do if they acquired another "blue chip" talent on offense? It took 6 weeks to scheme up a play for Harty, a guy who flashed with Saints whenever he touched the ball. Cook is open in short passing game with space. They have talent. Edited October 16, 2023 by YodaMan79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 We signed Sherfield, Harty, and drafted Shakir and Kincaid for what?? Either the OC has no clue how to scheme those guys into offense or Diggs has gotten into Josh’s head so much that he only looks for him. He had 16 targets yesterday I really like Shakir..but I don’t think he’s given enough opportunities to make plays. They gave Harty a 2yr contract so I figured he would be more involved in the offense as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I think in the Miami game there was a reasonably good job of spreading the ball around And I agree. I think the thing most people here fail to see is that this is how the offense is structured. It's supposed to be a chunk of catches for Diggs and 2-4 catches for everyone else. Spread the ball evenly around to 4-5 other guys. And that's fine. It works. However, games like last night where it's pretty much Diggs or no one hamper the offense IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: And I agree. I think the thing most people here fail to see is that this is how the offense is structured. It's supposed to be a chunk of catches for Diggs and 2-4 catches for everyone else. Spread the ball evenly around to 4-5 other guys. And that's fine. It works. However, games like last night where it's pretty much Diggs or no one hamper the offense IMO. We still have bad drops every week from the supporting cast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: I'd take Dawson's Creek over Dawson Knox right now 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I always liked Mike Evan’s and thought the Bills should’ve drafted him. Not sure what he has left in the tank but he would solve our no. 2 receiver problem if available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 We need someone that's weapons certified in the Booth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 We went under center a higher percentage of plays vs miami. Can't recall. What happened there. Then 2 weeks since. Nothing. Either josh hates it or dorsey is dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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