Chaos Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said: Bills are not stupid and they highly value Allen McDermott's words and actions with regards to Allen do not support either of these assertions, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’d trade him to Arizona for both of their firsts this year. that’s about all I would trade him for though I believe you would. At least you're backing up your criticism of Allen with the only logical move if your criticism is valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: If that ruins Allen, he’s not the guy to lead us to the promised land… This is the level of insanity that this week has devolved into. We waited decades for this kid and some of you think that, what, we’ll just go out and find another? Have you looked at some of the atrocious QBs that are on rosters right now? There’s maybe 12 good ones counting all starters. Don’t even get me started on some of the glorified gym teachers that are actually listed third on some depth charts. Be frustrated yes but to even hint at moving on from Allen is so absurdly dumb. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chaos said: McDermott's words and actions with regards to Allen do not support either of these assertions, in my opinion. Which words are those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Allen is the best QB the Bills have had in a long time. A really long time. They will never win a SB with him. He's got 3 years or less left before he hits the Cam Newton wall from the abuse he takes running the ball and then the Bills are back in the weeds until they get someone else. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 No. He sucked azz and deserves to be scorned. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Might as well move on now. Show’s over. Time to drink a mud puddle and wallow in my depression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: I believe you would. At least you're backing up your criticism of Allen with the only logical move if your criticism is valid. Backing up my criticism? I mean…. who isn’t criticizing him? I still love the guy, but let’s be real. For an elite QB, he’s been very meh for the last 13 games I would definitely take Caleb and Marvin jr for him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 What a completely ridiculous position to take. I’m one of the biggest JA defenders. But his actions of sabotaging his own success has been a problem under the surface. His overall great performance has overshadowed it. The reality is he has rarely been the problem preventing this team from the SB. But unquestionably he has to fix this himself. No mentoring, coaching, play calling is going to. He is his own worst enemy. Every team is going force him to overcome his own weaknesses. It’s time that he faces it and takes real responsibility. That’s on no one but him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 No. Josh Allen played like an idiot on Monday night. He knows it. We know it. He has the ability to cut it out. He's shown the ability to cut it out. When he cuts it out, I'll stop. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Chaos said: McDermott's words and actions with regards to Allen do not support either of these assertions, in my opinion. How so? Did McD say something specific for you to think this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 (edited) Why is Allen absolved from criticism? Don't most people get criticized when they perform like crap? Isn't Josh making what he is to put up with what happens when you play bad? It's an occupational hazard. I don't agree with the dumb crap, like he's only worried about banging his girlfriend, but fans can and should act as they please (while having some level of human decency). This is entertainment and most of us signed up for a Super Bowl not a divisional playoff win. We have been invested in this most our lives and If Josh plays well, we will be the first to be excited and support him. If anybody who criticizes Josh is actually rooting for him to fail, they can completely piss off. That's not even close to the place this is coming from. Edited September 15, 2023 by Mikie2times 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I needed both Vomit and Like reaction emojis for different points in that OP. What a ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Brought to you as a public service by concerned Bills fans for smarter football. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said: Fine. But there is also keeping things in perspective. The shrill and hysteric response by much of the national media and a lot of Bills fans goes way beyond the simple observation that Allen played poorly and we lost the game as a result. I don’t watch much national sports media, so you could well be right with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Not being able to stop the run has plagued this team for years... and special teams giving up that last TD is equally responsible for that loss. We have a gunslinger for a QB and he takes chances. I'll take Josh Allen over any other NFL QB. Buffalo could have still won that game with a better run defense and not allowing that return for a TD. Yes, the 3 INT's sucked. Alas, the Bills were playing one of the very best secondaries in the NF... so stuff happens. In my view, Buffalo should have been running the ball more with misdirection plays to wear that defense out. Play better defense! No Aaron Rodgers this should have been an easy win. The Jets averaged 6.1 yards per rush with Buffalo giving up 172 yards rushing. How about Joe Burrow this week 14 of 31 for 82 yards no TDs, would that have won the game for Buffalo? Dak Prescott, 13 of 24 for 143 yards, no TDs...would that? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 A player should not be praised whenever they turn the ball over four times Does it mean Josh Allen is not a great player probably will bounce back this week and he’s not going anywhere. He’s under contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Success said: Without doubt. But some of the online stuff - from Bills fans - has gone SO far beyond that. It's like many fans have amnesia about how much the dude has done for us over the years, and how many games he won pretty much on his own. I've been pretty disgusted by the tone of some of the posts here & elsewhere. They make him sound like a complete bum. Raiders game will be the cure of all the ills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Vikes Jefferson tonight made a foolish selfish decision to try and score. Loses the ball and costs his team the lead. 10 point swing in the game. Herby apparently not interested in saying it’s a selfish play. Actually suggests he’s maturing because he said my bad. Yeah the world gets it. But like Josh it’s a reckless decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Douggie Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Dude is the next Carson Wentz !@#$ him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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