Elam a healthy scratch tonight.

[QLBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Breece Hall is not.  
 

 

 

Sorry don’t care I’m going to pound that table till I see an RB on this team do Breece Hall things.   

If I say watch Cook tonight .. 🤓

[Rc2catch]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

That just isn't how the Bills are going to play defense. I get fans hate it because it isn't "aggressive" but it has been pretty successful for them and I don't think they are going to change it. I think they drafted Elam telling themselves they were more willing to use some press-man as a wrinkle in the scheme but then in reality they just are not comfortable playing that way. They want to be a bend don't break, keep it in front, limit the big play style of defense.

Yeah I get the concept. I guess I was just hoping Mcdermott would change it up a little bit. I expected the scheme to stay the same. Just figured we’d continue seeing the rotation until elam either won the job or needed to be traded away. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

29 minutes ago, Ben said:

Man, was he really that bad? It seemed like he improved last year quite a bit didn't it?

It's so hard to judge cornerback play. The coaches obviously saw something that bothered them. This is a big division game and hugely important to set the tone for the rest of the season. It's very telling that McDermott doesn't want Elam suited up even as a backup. I'm not saying he should be traded, but this is concerning. I guess we'll see where he's at as the season moves forward.

[Dan in Owego]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Ha it still stings that they drafted a guy who clearly wasn't a natural scheme fit for their scheme after trading up in round 1 and now won't put him on the field because he isn't a natural scheme fit for their scheme.....

They thought wrongly they could coach him up, draft busts are littered with this same flaw, just not the head for it

[Augie]

21 minutes ago, nucci said:

what is?

 

It.   😋

[Dopey]

22 minutes ago, nucci said:

what is?

It

[PetermansRedemption]

Would he even have any value in a trade? 

[Bobby Hooks]

I’ve got to imagine this has something to do with him and Mcd’s relationship. Frazier seems more even keeled and probably had a different approach with him. 

[LeGOATski]

14 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said:

 

Leodis Elam 

That's who I compared him to on draft day

 

Maybe they can still coach him into a well-rounded CB, but this is frustrating.

 

Still, is he really so bad that he's inactive? If a CB goes down with injury, it'd be nice to have Elam as depth.

[BuffaloButt]

Bills running heavy zone tonight is likely why Elam is inactive.

[Warriorspikes51]

What does Elam do for Sean to put him in the dog house?  Obviously he has some struggles, but he made a few massive plays last season.  
 

why not let him continue to develop?

 

I find it hard to justify Cam Lewis or Dodson being more valuable than Elam? 

[LeGOATski]

Are we about to find out that Elam isn't a "process guy?"

[KDIGGZ]

I heard Beane is a wizard and McDermott knows corners so we weren't allowed to 2nd guess this draft pick

[whorlnut]

9 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

T Woolen was a genetic freak, but thought to be a project. He went in the 5th round. Who knew he’d play like a first round corner his first year? It’s all a gamble. I’d rather Beane trade down than up. Should also mention I was against the Kincaid trade up, but that’s looking like a solid one. Most others - besides Josh Allen - we could’ve done without. 

This is the guy I wanted after we took hall in 1. But so many people blasted me cause we had to take a round one corner. Good stuff. 

1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said:

I heard Beane is a wizard and McDermott knows corners so we weren't allowed to 2nd guess this draft pick

Well that’s why I thought it was best to take care of other positions and wait to take a corner in 3 or 4. Maybe 2. McD is the best at getting good play out of later round DBs. We didn’t need one in the first to get a good one. 

[frostbitmic]

39 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

His trade value is so incredibly low right now-what is any team going to give up for him? It’s still a relatively low contract, he’s worth more than a 6th round pick 

Somebody might exchange 6th and 7th round draft picks in 2028 or something.

[BillsFanSD]

Just another wasted 1st/2nd round pick.  No biggie.

[Big Blitz]

6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

What does Elam do for Sean to put him in the dog house?  Obviously he has some struggles, but he made a few massive plays last season.  
 

why not let him continue to develop?

 

I find it hard to justify Cam Lewis or Dodson being more valuable than Elam? 

 

I’m 1000000% sure it’s the tackling.

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

Would he even have any value in a trade? 

Let me preface this by saying I do not endorse trading Elam. Just speaking on the question here.

 

He most certainly would have trade value. GMs pay close attention to everything. There are GMs that I'm sure had him highly rated and are a scheme fit that see a first rounder from last year a healthy scratch and rub their hands together. They may view it as getting a guy they liked in the late first/early second a year ago at a reduced rate. Putting Elam as a healthy scratch week 1 sends a strong message IMO. There's a good chance that some GM is planning on giving Beane a call first thing in the morning to gauge if Elam can be had and for what cost. What Beane does from there would depend IMO on if a team offers something that he views as better value than Elam would provide and inactive depth.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

This is probably the weirdest draft pick situation in all my years being a Bills fan. He’s not even been a bad player. It just seems like others have been slightly better. Typically when it’s that close you give the edge to the 1st round pick.
 

Very strange.

Edited September 11, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[gobills404]

Sean McDermott YOU are a terorrist