Logic Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I just read an article on The Athletic where NFL agents were surveyed on a number of questions. https://theathletic.com/4804587/2023/08/28/nfl-agent-survey-taylor-rodgers-goodell/ When it came to questions about GMs, Brandon Beane was mentioned favorably several times. I pasted the pertinent graphics below. Thought this was pretty interesting. At least from the perspective of agents, there is a lot of respect for the Bills Gm. He was voted top five in several categories, and tied for first in the question of "whom do you trust the most?". 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Good to see Jerry Jones vote for himself 1 20 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 This runs contrary to what some of our favorite members posts, 1 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Schneider's first few drafts in Seattle were incredible, then they wandered the wilderness for awhile after the Unger for Graham trade, but these last two drafts have them right back into the Playoffs with the Super Bowl ceiling capped by their QB. But moved off Wilson while still able to get a haul. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 no votes for Belichick? I'm shocked! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 So he’s just lacking in the super important fan approval category 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 56 minutes ago, Logic said: I just read an article on The Athletic where NFL agents were surveyed on a number of questions. https://theathletic.com/4804587/2023/08/28/nfl-agent-survey-taylor-rodgers-goodell/ When it came to questions about GMs, Brandon Beane was mentioned favorably several times. I pasted the pertinent graphics below. Thought this was pretty interesting. At least from the perspective of agents, there is a lot of respect for the Bills Gm. He was voted top five in several categories, and tied for first in the question of "whom do you trust the most?". Seeing Lynch voted that high for talent evaluating was kind of surprising given the Trey Lance debacle. Im sure the votes were done well before that trade, but still, a month ago that looks like an absolute train wreck. There isnt anyone even close in worse draft day deals, EVER. Then again these are agents, who have different motivations then most involved in the sport. Cool article though! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) Bit, but, but I thought were supposed to fire Beane, McDermott, Dorsey, all the position coaches, trainers, doctors and even the PR guys. Was I wrong? Friends on TBD said they could do it all better. (Insert sarcasm here) He didn’t get voted two years ago by his peers GM of the year by accident, and now on the other side the agents basically saying the same. Did you guys ever notice we secured Tre early and Ramsey went much higher. We secured Dawkins early, and then made the pro bowl multiple times, and other LT’s are almost twice as much. I can keep going. Milano at $11 mil/yr as a steal and a 1st team all pro. We aren’t in the drought anymore. It doesn’t help as I know many of you are frustrated we didn’t get to the SB, but so are 30 other teams every year. Thanks for sharing Logic. Edited August 28, 2023 by machine gun kelly 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Seeing Lynch voted that high for talent evaluating was kind of surprising given the Trey Lance debacle. Im sure the votes were done well before that trade, but still, a month ago that looks like an absolute train wreck. There isnt anyone even close in worse draft day deals, EVER. Then again these are agents, who have different motivations then most involved in the sport. Cool article though! Yeah. Honestly, the one I took the most from -- because what do agents really know about talent evaluation? -- was the "GM you trust the most" vote, in which Beane tied for first. I think that being among the top two most trusted GMs in the league by player agents is a great and important thing. At the end of the day, it's the agents negotiating the players' deals with the teams, and having a GM with a great and trustworthy reputation can only mean good things for the Bills' ability to sign and re-sign players in the future. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Beane seems like a very loyal and trustworthy person. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Impressive ranking for Rosenman. He's earned it. Two Super Bowl appearances in the last 6 years with one win (and a very close loss) with two different head coaches and two different starting QBs. That's not easy to do. Also agree on Schneider and Veitch being up there. Seattle has a couple of Super Bowl appearances, and a win, in the Schneider era and they just got a rebuilding team back into the playoffs. This quote from the internet sums up Vietch's tenure: "During Veach's six seasons as general manager, the club has won the AFC West every year, hosted an NFL record five-straight AFC Championship Games, en route to three Super Bowl appearances in four years, and has hoisted the Lombardi Trophy twice (LIV, LVII)." I'm a Beane fan and am glad to see him getting some recognition. The Bills have been very good during his time as GM. They need to get to the Super Bowl and win one in order for him to break into the top tier like these other 3 guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Love Beane, but do we want our GM to be the most trusted (I don't see Roseman listed as one of the most trustworthy GM's)?! I ask mostly tongue-in-cheek but I'm sure those that have more knowledge of Front Office machinations could dive deeper into what, if anything, that means. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 hours ago, DJB said: Good to see Jerry Jones vote for himself This made me spit out coffee. Nicely done sir. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) I'm not sure this should be a surprise to anyone... he would lap the field if they asked "Who is the best GM at getting players to take below market deals to stay with or come to a team?" Edited August 28, 2023 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I'd the Bills let Beane go. He could write his own ticket to just about any organization. I think he's the best we've had since Polian. That said it were out of our window. And haven't been the best drafters the last few years. I do believe they do well in finding bargain free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I’m surprised he ranked so highly in terms of talent evaluation. He hit on Josh which was huge but if you look at the rest of his picks, you have several good but not great players - at least up until point. He doesn’t have the All Pro selections on his resume as some of the other GM’s do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Honestly, he bought himself 10 years in the Allen pick alone. I also love that he doesn’t just stop trying to improve the roster (with the Trey Lance offer). but the last few drafts haven’t been great. But much like Belichick and “the Patriot Way,” stud qbs cover up a lot of sins and poor moves. but as a guy who hates Allen as prospect, Beane found a stud unicorn and set this Franchise up for a lot of success. He gets a major long leash. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Don Otreply said: This runs contrary to what some of our favorite members posts, Some people find raw liver sprinkled with hot pepper favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Whkfc said: I'd the Bills let Beane go. He could write his own ticket to just about any organization. I think he's the best we've had since Polian. That said it were out of our window. And haven't been the best drafters the last few years. I do believe they do well in finding bargain free agents. No one will agree with me (I enjoy being a lone wolf) but I do think Whaley built some really good teams. He just never hit on the qb and that’s what separates GMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Honestly, he bought himself 10 years in the Allen pick alone. I also love that he doesn’t just stop trying to improve the roster (with the Trey Lance offer). but the last few drafts haven’t been great. But much like Belichick and “the Patriot Way,” stud qbs cover up a lot of sins and poor moves. but as a guy who hates Allen as prospect, Beane found a stud unicorn and set this Franchise up for a lot of success. He gets a major long leash. Where is the logic in this, though? Let’s say he’s the greatest GM in history at determining which elite QB prospect will reach his potential in the NFL. He will literally never need to utilize that skill set again as the GM of the Bills. He had an amazing draft in 2018. Since then, he’s managed 4 postseason wins in 5 seasons with an elite QB. At what point does he get judged on his recent history? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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