Clyde Smith Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Bills vs Redskins. There is a game video on YouTube where Marv confronted the Ref telling him "you was payed off". It was after a Andre Reed play when he slammed his helmet I remember. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 48 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Ed Hochuli allegedly told Cam Newton he wasn't old enough to get a roughing call. Funny story about this one Cam wanted roughing the passer for getting hit in the head and told that to the ref, who replied 'You were running'...Cam being Cam heard 'you a youngin' ie you're not old enough to get that call 😂😂full disclosure I love Cam Newton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK Fan Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I refuse to believe that any NFL game has ever been rigged. I have seen too many games with incompetent officiating, but to jump to rigged or fixed, no never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I've often felt that way... IN THE MOMENT. After I've had time to cool down, I think it's most incompetence & poor officiating. There's just too many things that have to go a certain way on any given play that to conclude "rigging," would require far too many leaps in logic & just absurd assumptions to be accepted... The only games I really still have questions about across ANY sport are all related to the NBA. Even then it's not to the level of rigging from up top, ingrained in the institution like WWE, but rather select individuals doing it unbenknownst to those in charge. Like the 2006 NBA Finals. I still can't watch those games & not feel the refs weren't trying to give Miami the series via D-Wade free throws. So many phantom calls if anyone so much as breathed on the guy. It made for a terrible watch back then, and a nice conspiracy now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 17 hours ago, major said: Have you ever watched an NFL game that left you convinced that it might have been fixed/or rigged? If so, which one/ones? It could be sabotage, missed calls or blown calls- officiating, stolen playbooks, spying, etc… My list: -Super bowl 37: Raiders and Tampa Bay -Super Bowl XL: Steelers and Seahawks -Super Bowl 36: Patriots and Rams -Super Bowl 50: Broncos and Panthers -2001 AFC divisional game: Patriots and Oakland Every game the Bills lose is rigged. Seriously, just stop with the conspiracy theories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 6 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: The guys a tool but the Tim Donnaghy book was superrrrrrrrr interesting. His point was you didn’t HAVE to make a bad call to win these kinds of bets. I used to work around Tim Donnaghy’s home. A beautiful house in a lovely neighborhood with a driveway full of toys for little kids. He made mistakes and his kids will suffer as a result. I know it happens all the time, but it still saddens me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 The NFL, as a business, sells only two things. Entertainment (it’s exciting) and competition (anyone can win). There would be no more stupid, twenty thousand posts per week across the web to the contrary, than that billion dollar industry jeopardizing one of the two things it sells. Coke Classic. Bud Light. Disney. The NFL fixing games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 18 hours ago, major said: Have you ever watched an NFL game that left you convinced that it might have been fixed/or rigged? If so, which one/ones? It could be sabotage, missed calls or blown calls- officiating, stolen playbooks, spying, etc… My list: -Super bowl 37: Raiders and Tampa Bay -Super Bowl XL: Steelers and Seahawks -Super Bowl 36: Patriots and Rams -Super Bowl 50: Broncos and Panthers -2001 AFC divisional game: Patriots and Oakland have you ever been on this site during a game? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Every single loss by the NJ Generals of the USFL was rigged, or so someone said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Augie said: I used to work around Tim Donnaghy’s home. A beautiful house in a lovely neighborhood with a driveway full of toys for little kids. He made mistakes and his kids will suffer as a result. I know it happens all the time, but it still saddens me. Not all addictions are boogeyman powders in plastic bags like we tend to think. I've known addicts of alcohol, drugs, clothes shopping, sex, keeping up with the Jones's lifestyles..... Tim's happened to be gambling, or even more likely the power/rush. "At least" the majority of the damage done to that family is mental. He's alive, they all have their health, and are likely still well off. I'm not naive to the strain that put on the family, but as a 35yr old, in my adult life I've grown accustomed to seeing addictions end only by caskets. Timmy seems like he's in a good place, has accepted what he did, and carved out a little niche for himself. I'm not sure how the rest of the family is doing, but I hope they're doing well too! As stupid as his decisions were, I absolutely understand how someone could end up in that pickle he put himself into. Very deceptive slippery slope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Ravens vs 49ers. Ravens were blowing out the 49ers in the Superbowl, then suddenly the lights go out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 18 hours ago, Irv said: EJ Manuel making more completions to the Jags than Bills at Wembley was rigged. Nobody could play that bad on purpose. Sincerely, Peterman Yet EJ brought the Bills all the way back, only to be brought down by the phantom DPI against Nuke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) On 8/10/2023 at 11:10 AM, Buffalo ill said: Yes. Wow! I never knew it was that bad. I wasn’t really old enough for this game, were the refs allowing Buffalo’s defense the same thing ? Edit: was it also a big controversy during that time? You can just see the complete frustration during Andre Reed’s outburst. Edited August 11, 2023 by ChronicAndKnuckles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repulsif Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 which team won on the 9/11 year ? which team won (or the very next ?) on the Katrina year ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 Ok, one of my reasons for bringing this up was a result of a conversation with a guy who used to be a head ref for some major college games (and college bowl games) in the late 1970’s and 1980’s. He told me they were taught to never influence a game and he demanded that of his crew. He said he noticed one of his crew was very flag happy and influencing games. He said he took his flags away before a game. He said he went over to him and told him, “I told you to stop”😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) Could individual refs be bought for a game? It's possible. But no way the league itself as an institution sets up or sanctions rigged outcomes. Too much money at stake to risk it with the news of rigged games. If the league wants certain outcomes, it will change the rules to favor those outcomes across the board. The "wrong" team winning a big game once in a while doesn't reduce the overall popularity of the league. But make no mistake: the league changes rules to favor a certain style of play that will be more profitable as it is more appealing to the casual fans and masses, even if purists don't like it. Edited August 12, 2023 by Nephilim17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 11 hours ago, Repulsif said: which team won on the 9/11 year ? which team won (or the very next ?) on the Katrina year ? Patriots Steelers then Colts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Repulsif said: which team won on the 9/11 year ? which team won (or the very next ?) on the Katrina year ? Why would the New England Patriots win after 9/11? They're not a new York team... New Yorkers hate Boston people It should have went to the Jets or Giants if it was rigged... And yes I realize they play in East Rutherford But their trademarked New York and 100% to the New York City market Edited August 12, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Sounds like someone just returned from a nice long walk in the Nevada desert... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/10/2023 at 12:22 AM, major said: Have you ever watched an NFL game that left you convinced that it might have been fixed/or rigged? If so, which one/ones? It could be sabotage, missed calls or blown calls- officiating, stolen playbooks, spying, etc… My list: -Super bowl 37: Raiders and Tampa Bay -Super Bowl XL: Steelers and Seahawks -Super Bowl 36: Patriots and Rams -Super Bowl 50: Broncos and Panthers -2001 AFC divisional game: Patriots and Oakland The super bowl list is funny to me because I had a friend who watched the Pats vs ATL game and thought it was rigged. He simply could not get over the fact that on one occasion they called three defensive holdings on consecutive third downs to give Pats first downs and then the phantom holding in the 4th when they missed the facemask on the completion. I don't think the games are fixed but I think the NFL is very ok with having poor officiating decide some games. NFL seems to be a believer in all headlines are good headlines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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