boyst Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: I think it was out of desperation. lol Riddle me this one. How is it Bills did not bring in one of the FAs MLBs we had all discussed back when , who would have been at least been a known quantity and actually good to very good Kevin ? That's what puzzled me last year. There were experienced vets available after injuries at LB last year and we sat there thinking we had capable playmakers. Dobson was all we had. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: I think it was out of desperation. lol Riddle me this one. How is it Bills did not bring in one of the FAs MLBs we had all discussed back when , who would have been at least been a known quantity and actually good to very good Kevin ? He went to Cleveland, Levy I think was his name, very religious guy, gave out his phone number to fans during Covid i 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 It's only a starting point, but I don't expect much to change from this. Thoughts: - still concerned about WR depth especially seeing Shorter behind Davis - interested if/when Torrence overtakes Bates - 9th OL spot is a battle assuming they don't keep 10 - Miller as DE1 should be drowning in asterisks... - ...although DL looks so much better overall with Floyd as 2nd team - C/B/2 is pretty funny (depressing) - LB is a hellscape - Lewis acknowledged as S is interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Airseven said: - C/B/2 is pretty funny (depressing) IMO it's only depressing if your viewpoint is that the players involved aren't good enough. If they are all good and the coaches are giving them a fair shot, it's a good problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: To be honest I was dumb founded that some very good posters here wanted Frazier back…. Dude absolutely needed to go after yet another pathetic elimination game defensive performance. I agree, I could not understand any defense of Frazier after yet another lay down and pathetic showing in a playoff loss by the defense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) Settle as no 2 is interesting. Edited August 9, 2023 by RyanC883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Settle as no 2 is interesting. I thought the same. But then again, this staff prioritizes familiarity so perhaps the new guy behind Settle at this point is perfunctory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 6 hours ago, StHustle said: Doesn’t mean much but it does mean something. My takeaways: 1. I feel like CB2 by platoon will actually be a thing 2. Still confused how Spector ended up out of the race after reports of that great day he had. I’m fine with it tho. I think Dodson wins it. 1. Agree - I think its possible that CB2 will see some rotations based on defensive matchups, scheme, etc. For example when they want to run man and/or press, could Elam out there opposite Tre with Dane/Benford maybe more in zone, etc. 2. I think you answered your own question when you said he had a great "day". Lots of guys have a good day in camp, but its about consistency and overall performance throughout camp and I feel like we have heard a lot more about Bernard and Dodson overall. So I am assuming they just have more consistently stood out than Spector has and made this more of a 2 man race. 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: Settle as no 2 is interesting. Settle has had a good camp, and Poona is still learning the playbook. So I expected to see Settle at #2 personally. Our DT position is deep right now as we are 5 deep with guys who could be starters on several other teams. McD is going to use a good rotation on them, so I think being 2 or 3 is a bit irrelevant when it comes to DT as they will get snaps. Same for a guy like Shaq at DE who is 3rd on the depth chart, but they will get him into the rotation still as he played well last year and why they brought him back. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Kmart128 said: Im also surprised that Torrence and Bates dont have a slash next to their name like the other battles. Especially since Torrence seem to be getting most reps with 1s. I'm not sure that it's true Torrence was getting most reps with the 1s. I think he got reps during the walk-throughs before stretching and that confused many of us that he was "starting with the 1's". Other than that I think he mostly got reps when Bates was working at C with the 2's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Don Otreply said: He went to Cleveland, Levy I think was his name, very religious guy, gave out his phone number to fans during Covid i I was thinking Kevin Johnson for some ODD reason 2 hours ago, RyanC883 said: Settle as no 2 is interesting. Ima tellin' ya ! He is Jones next. Oliver has Phillips 2 hours ago, Airseven said: I thought the same. But then again, this staff prioritizes familiarity so perhaps the new guy behind Settle at this point is perfunctory. Poona will be a beast. he might be rotating on run And pass downs ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 6 hours ago, HIT BY SPIKES said: You are welcome. I hope the Bears schedule does not conflict with the Bills so you can continue to watch his play in Chicago in real time. So do I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, boyst said: Who's the few folks that kept ringing that bell for Spector? How I was wrong to think he is not going to make it? Apologize, please And those that seemed to think that Williams would end up at MLB, or that Klein was anything but a depth player at this point in his career. Maybe he'll move up, but based on this chart I at least feel vindicated in my positions about the starting players. Same for Poona Ford whom IMO many overrate. 5 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: I think it was out of desperation. lol Riddle me this one. How is it Bills did not bring in one of the FAs MLBs we had all discussed back when , who would have been at least been a known quantity and actually good to very good Again, poor planning. I'm not sure that it can reasonably be spun any other way. Edited August 9, 2023 by PBF81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 6 hours ago, HIT BY SPIKES said: You are welcome. I hope the Bears schedule does not conflict with the Bills so you can continue to watch his play in Chicago in real time. We're going to miss Edmunds. The move was probably best for both however, us as well as Edmunds. I suspect that he'll flourish in Chicago in a traditional MLB role. We obviously didn't use him that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 hours ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said: I think we keep 5 safeties, with one of them being Cam Lewis. Hyde/Poyer/Rapp/Hamlim/Lewis Word from camp says they are putting 3 safeties on the field often, so it would make sense to keep 5 with Lewis being so versatile Lewis is making the team as a S or CB. His versatility is what makes him a roster lock. He’s had a great camp, he has experience at both CB and S, and he is a core special teamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 I still feel terrible for Hines. But looking at this, where would he have landed if healthy? Is it possible he wouldn't have made the active roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Diggs Davis Sherfield Harty - Can fill in outside or slot with speed Shakir Shorter Shavers / Isabella if they keep 7 Seems to me that Sherfield's the 6th WR overall at present, the most likely to be knocked out by another. I don't think he will be, but Diggs, Davis, Harty, and Shakir are locks. I can't imagine that they'll waive Shorter, their early 5th-round draft pick, who was the second leading WR, only by a narrow margin, in his last two seasons at Florida, with siht running QBs that were among the worst passers in the SEC. IMO his ceiling is higher than most think. That would place Sherfield, who despite any narratives, hasn't done much to distinguish himself in four seasons in the NFL, as the most likely one to be surpassed, especially since the only two behind him whose names I've heard about from Camp, Isabella and Johnson, are in his spot on the depth chart right behind him. The fact that Isabella is after Harty and Shakir as a specialist may be concerning for Sherfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Mildly Interesting points: -Von Miller listed as an edge starter. I wonder if this means there is legitimate optimism that he is ready for the opener? (I'm probably reading too much into that) -Tim Settle over Poona Ford with Poona being a 3rd stinger. -Boogie Basham in front of Shane Ray. -Andy Isabella mired in the 4th string group. (perhaps not surprising at all) -Ryan Bates in front of O'Cyrus Torrence How is Settle & Basham ahead of Poona & Ray? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 7 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Mildly Interesting points: -Von Miller listed as an edge starter. I wonder if this means there is legitimate optimism that he is ready for the opener? (I'm probably reading too much into that) -Tim Settle over Poona Ford with Poona being a 3rd stinger. -Boogie Basham in front of Shane Ray. -Andy Isabella mired in the 4th string group. (perhaps not surprising at all) -Ryan Bates in front of O'Cyrus Torrence DL: I don't like seeing Poona at #3. That puts our DTs as Oliver/Phillips at 3T and Jones/Settle at 1T, and reminds me of the precept "insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result". It's not that the first 4 aren't good players - they are - but Phillips has been injured so often "and then what?" Unless we keep 5 DTs this year which would bring us to.... Von Miller pairerd with Rousseau and Epenesa paired with Floyd is at least different...but will they move on from Basham, or will they be trying to keep 10 DL? Other comments on Defense: DB: Hamlin/Lewis for safety #4 is a surprise. They also show Lewis as the backup nickel. So it'll be interesting to see how they break it down. They have for the last 3 years gone with 6 CB and 4 safeties, which could be something like White, Jackson, Benford, Elam, Johnson, Lewis? Would they actually move on from Siran Neal? Then the safeties could be Poyer, Hyde, Rapp and...Lewis, if they keep Neal? Or Hamlin, and they keep Lewis as a 6th CB? Neal, for the capology inclined, is signed through 2024 and his salary this season is fully guaranteed. A puzzle. LB: shocks me to see Matakevich and Klein lost on the 4th string behind Howard and Spector. For those who keep track of such things, Matakevich signed a $2.5M guaranteed contract, but his cap hit is only $1.8M because they pushed half his signing bonus off into a void year. So it costs the Bills cap to cut him. They may, however, plan to move him from PUP to IR/eligible to return. Klein, on the other hand, is on a vet salary benefit deal with $100k signing bonus, so he can be cut with minimal cap impact. I thought they liked Klein, though. Maybe he's really fallen off and Spector is really coming on. ST: well, for those who thought Shakir was leading the PR/KR race, Nope. It's Harty. What happened to Darrynton Evans, though? I guess he quickly fell out of the running, which, well, doesn't look good for his chances at Running Back with the Bills. Offense: WR: Harty/Shakir sharing a slash at the slot is interesting. So is having Marcel Ateman ahead of Shavers and Patman. I thought Shavers was showing some stuff. Ateman (and I had to look this up) was a 2018 7th round pick of the Raiders. He spent 4 years with the Raiders, mostly on their PS, before signing with the Cardinals and getting cut just before the season. He was then signed by the St Louis Battlehawks (Ka-kaw!) but apparently injured. So the Bills have a couple guys who are a bit long in the tooth as journeyman (in Ateman and Keesean Johnson, a 6th round AZ pick in 2019) ahead of a couple of guys I thought were promising (and younger) players in Patman (2020 6th round, Colts), Shavers (2023 UDFA) and Isaiah Coulter (2020 5th round, Houston). Then there's 2019 2nd rounder Andy Isabella who is right behind Harty/Shakir as a slot. .....hitting Josh Allen in the head with a football at the Red and Blue Scrimmage can't have helped Coulter's case LOL. But it will be interesting to see how this depth chart goes down. RB: I thought Jordan Mims had promise. OL: I had hopes, from what we've heard, for Richard Gouraige. Disappointed to see him behind Ryan Van Demark at LT - and where did Tommy Doyle come from to be 2nd behind Dawkins? I haven't heard a peep about him. Interesting to see Ike Boettger behind David Edwards on the depth chart. Are the Bills finally ready to move on from him? Achilles is a hard injury to come back from. TE: for those who thought Steinberger over Morris, this depth chart says 'nope' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 CB and S White Elam Bedford Taron Jackson Lewis Poyer Hyde Rapp Hamlin ^two of the easier position groups to predict- there is 10 roster spots=43 remaining spots Bass Sam Reid =40 remaining roster spots Josh Allen or Barkley =38 remaining spots Damian Cook Latavious Gilliam =34 remaining spots TE Knox Dalton Morris = 31 spots remaining for OL, DL, WR, LB- these groups there will be some tough decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 First, the 3 camp battles for RG, MLB and CB2 is no surprise and I like that there is competition. I foresee Torrence getting the RG spot to start the season or soon after. Having Sherfield as Diggs backup is what I wanted. He'll get a decent number of snaps just spelling Diggs along with multiple WR snaps. He will come in way before Shorter. It also puts to bed some fans thinking he is in the SWR battle. Cam Lewis as the depth NCB pushes Siran Neal farther down. Not sure how that does not make the "possibility" of a cap casualty not in the mix. $3.3M for a ST gunner that far down the position list is a puzzlement IF some of these other new acquisitions can man the post. Tough to do at this time of year but there is a possibility of a trade if Beane wants to do that with a couple of players. It's the first depth chart so I could see some movement as the preseason continues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Interesting that Quessenberry and Boettger, people that many of us once viewed as good depth, both are mired on the third string. Says something about the depth on the line. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Interesting that Quessenberry and Boettger, people that many of us once viewed as good depth, both are mired on the third string. Says something about the depth on the line. dding trade value. There is a shortage of adequate OL. Bills could conceivably trade 3 OL for draft picks. Same with Settle. Bills arent keepimg 5 DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pete said: dding trade value. There is a shortage of adequate OL. Bills could conceivably trade 3 OL for draft picks. Same with Settle. Bills arent keepimg 5 DL I don't know about three OL, but it's a good point. I'm not a roster guru, but I'd be surprised if they let Settle go. If they do, I'd think there'll be a market for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 No surprises to me except Settle ahead of Ford. it’s a solid roster except for MLB. I hope that doesn’t hurt them too bad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Pete said: CB and S White Elam Bedford Taron Jackson Lewis Poyer Hyde Rapp Hamlin Two words: Siran Neal Stalwart on special teams for years Now Lewis is listed ahead of him at NCB and along with Hamlin as the 4th safety I don't want to watch Cam Lewis in run coverage near the LOS A lot of people have trauma from watching him in pass coverage last year He has reportedly been having a great camp, but..... Is it possible the Bills keep Lewis and release Neal? It's possible but wow, that would represent a change for them. Neal is signed through 2024 and carries $1M dead cap if cut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIT BY SPIKES Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 12 hours ago, Dopey said: So do I. Is the Edmunds Fan Club going with the matching bandanas again this year or neon wrist bands? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIT BY SPIKES Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 11 hours ago, PBF81 said: We're going to miss Edmunds. The move was probably best for both however, us as well as Edmunds. I suspect that he'll flourish in Chicago in a traditional MLB role. We obviously didn't use him that way. So THE problem was how we used Edmunds? I watch each Bills game 3 times -- once while drinking heavily watching the game live and then twice completely sober (or almost) during the following week. I wanted to like Edmunds. What is there NOT to like? Popular with his teammates. The interesting back story with his two NFL playing bros. A tremendous physical asset. A first round Buffalo Bills draft pick that we traded up for. Crap!!! I even like his fake dreadlocks. Unfortunately, my lying eyes would not lie to me when it came to Edmunds football instincts. He would simply guess where the ball carrier was going and more often then not he was wrong. Then when he did zoom in on ball carrier he was easily nullified in the wash. Could not shed a block if it was a 25 lb block of cheddar. $18M? LOL!!! Thank you Chicago. You're my kinda town. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Beck Water said: Two words: Siran Neal Stalwart on special teams for years Now Lewis is listed ahead of him at NCB and along with Hamlin as the 4th safety I don't want to watch Cam Lewis in run coverage near the LOS A lot of people have trauma from watching him in pass coverage last year He has reportedly been having a great camp, but..... Is it possible the Bills keep Lewis and release Neal? It's possible but wow, that would represent a change for them. Neal is signed through 2024 and carries $1M dead cap if cut I forgot about Neal. He backs up Taron too. That will be a tough choice. Beane has a surplus of S, OL, DL and maybe TE and WR. I surmise Beane makes at least two trades before opening day. 7 hours ago, Beck Water said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, HIT BY SPIKES said: So THE problem was how we used Edmunds? I watch each Bills game 3 times -- once while drinking heavily watching the game live and then twice completely sober (or almost) during the following week. I wanted to like Edmunds. What is there NOT to like? Popular with his teammates. The interesting back story with his two NFL playing bros. A tremendous physical asset. A first round Buffalo Bills draft pick that we traded up for. Crap!!! I even like his fake dreadlocks. Unfortunately, my lying eyes would not lie to me when it came to Edmunds football instincts. He would simply guess where the ball carrier was going and more often then not he was wrong. Then when he did zoom in on ball carrier he was easily nullified in the wash. Could not shed a block if it was a 25 lb block of cheddar. $18M? LOL!!! Thank you Chicago. You're my kinda town. We'll see. Maybe he won't be any good in Chicago, but as pointed out, he'll be playing in a classic 4-3 there from what I can tell, we didn't do that here, so it will be different for him. Whether or not that changes remains to be seen. He had his weaknesses like most players, but I also see quite a bit of bias in the anti-Edmunds Contingent. IMO we're going to get a dose of the grass isn't always greener on this one, which is my point, if you thought that the MLB play last season was deficient, buckle up my friend, it could be a long season for you in that regard. He also just turned 25. It also sounds as if they wanted to keep him but simply couldn't afford it. Edited August 10, 2023 by PBF81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, HIT BY SPIKES said: Is the Edmunds Fan Club going with the matching bandanas again this year or neon wrist bands? Nah, Edmunds jerseys. Bills or Bears, your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Klein being listed as 4th string LB is disappointing. I think he's proven himself to have a physically nasty edge when used in blitz packages 21 hours ago, HappyDays said: It's because Spector is the one unknown on the depth chart. I've seen Dodson in coverage, he isn't good enough. This is year five for him, I doubt the light is suddenly going to go on. Bernard looked completely overmatched to me in his limited reps last year. Nothing I've heard about him at camp this year eases that concern. I don't typically give up on players this early but I think they just blew that pick. It happens. So a small part of me hoped Spector would come out of nowhere and at least give us starting caliber play at the position. The reality is that MLB is going to be a weak point for us this year, no getting around that now. It's a little scary having no starting level talent for a key position but I suppose most teams have to deal with that somewhere on their roster. It would be nice if a solid starting LB was cut. It's possible a team has one that they'll release due to cap or that player not fitting scheme / wasn't drafted by new GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIT BY SPIKES Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Dopey said: Nah, Edmunds jerseys. Bills or Bears, your choice. Can you get those split jerseys with half a Bills and half a Bears jersey? Those are kool!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, HIT BY SPIKES said: Can you get those split jerseys with half a Bills and half a Bears jersey? Those are kool!!! Run into that a lot when the Seminoles play the Gaytors. House divided t-shirts or half jerseys. Fun times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIT BY SPIKES Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Just now, Dopey said: Run into that a lot when the Seminoles play the Gaytors. House divided t-shirts or half jerseys. Fun times. Very nice!!! How about a little photo shopping of the 3 Edmunds Brothers' heads on the bodies of The Three Stooges with Fe'Zahn Tremaine Edmunds' face on Curley's body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, HIT BY SPIKES said: Very nice!!! How about a little photo shopping of the 3 Edmunds Brothers' heads on the bodies of The Three Stooges with Fe'Zahn Tremaine Edmunds' face on Curley's body? If you have an issue with them too, have at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 18 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: I was thinking Kevin Johnson for some ODD reason Ima tellin' ya ! He is Jones next. Oliver has Phillips Poona will be a beast. he might be rotating on run And pass downs ! Agree, Poona should be a beast this year. That's why I was surprised he was behind Settle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIT BY SPIKES Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Dopey said: If you have an issue with them too, have at it. Nah, his bros have never had me swearing at the TV. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 When we signed Sherfield, I thought he'd be in the slot conversation. Apparently not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 On 8/9/2023 at 5:54 PM, PBF81 said: And those that seemed to think that Williams would end up at MLB, or that Klein was anything but a depth player at this point in his career. Maybe he'll move up, but based on this chart I at least feel vindicated in my positions about the starting players. Same for Poona Ford whom IMO many overrate. Again, poor planning. I'm not sure that it can reasonably be spun any other way. I have to consider otherwise. But thank you for the response Hard for me to grasp that McBeanes didn't or dont have a decent plan to make use of knowing that Edmunds was going to be PAID. Until the Season begins and we see the LBs as the main weakness, and it does project that way imho ? I will reserve judgement. But yea I hear ya On 8/9/2023 at 6:03 PM, PBF81 said: We're going to miss Edmunds. The move was probably best for both however, us as well as Edmunds. I suspect that he'll flourish in Chicago in a traditional MLB role. We obviously didn't use him that way. Bills Defense needed a kick in the arse to get out of that mindset they allowed with Tremaine and frazier. How they respond is yet to be determined. 23 hours ago, Pete said: dding trade value. There is a shortage of adequate OL. Bills could conceivably trade 3 OL for draft picks. Same with Settle. Bills arent keepimg 5 DL You folks and Tim Settle Geesh ! 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I was surprised to see Poona Ford behind tim settle 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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