Mike in Horseheads Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Washington and Oregon have agreed to join the BIG and Arizona the Big12. Just a matter of time b4 Arz St and Utah also go to the Big 12. That will leave Stanford, Cal, Wash st and Org St as all thats left. I can see Stanford and Cal going to the ACC which is crazy just to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 14 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Just a matter of time b4 Arz St and Utah also go to the Big 12. That will leave Stanford, Cal, Wash st and Org St as all thats left. Washington State and Oregon State announced today the formation of the 'I Am Staying For Good' conference. Athletic directors of overachieving high schools are encouraged to apply. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Cal is in serious trouble now... they put up such a stink over UCLA leaving WITH the Pac 12 being viable, so now with the dissolution of the Pac 12 they are really behind the 8 ball. I think they overplayed their hand and are going to pay a huge price. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/14/sports/ncaafootball/ucla-big-ten.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Will they still have the Jimmy Kimmel LA Bowl? https://www.sofistadium.com/LABowl/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 As collateral damage, what happens with the Rose Bowl now? With the pending demise of the PAC 12, and the expansion of CFB playoffs, any leverage they had of being relevant is gone. I'm sure a CFB playoff game will be held there, but I doubt they will be able to throw their weight around anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Brett McMurphy on Twitter: "For those worried about Rose Bowl's ties to Pac-12: those ended last year in final traditional Pac 12-B1G Rose Bowl (Utah vs. Penn State). This year Rose hosts a @CFBPlayoff semifinal & quarterfinal in '24 & 25 playoffs. From 2026 on, Rose Bowl annually will be part of playoffs" / X 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 7, 2023 Author Share Posted August 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Rico said: Will they still have the Jimmy Kimmel LA Bowl? https://www.sofistadium.com/LABowl/ Looks like the Pac4 will have to add a team to get their 5th seed for it 35 minutes ago, Gregg said: Brett McMurphy on Twitter: "For those worried about Rose Bowl's ties to Pac-12: those ended last year in final traditional Pac 12-B1G Rose Bowl (Utah vs. Penn State). This year Rose hosts a @CFBPlayoff semifinal & quarterfinal in '24 & 25 playoffs. From 2026 on, Rose Bowl annually will be part of playoffs" / X Nothing says "Traditional" Rose Bowl like Utah vs Penn St 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Cal is in serious trouble now... they put up such a stink over UCLA leaving WITH the Pac 12 being viable, so now with the dissolution of the Pac 12 they are really behind the 8 ball. I think they overplayed their hand and are going to pay a huge price. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/14/sports/ncaafootball/ucla-big-ten.html Cal is by most measures one of the five best research universities in the world (as is Stanford). They don't need a name-brand football conference to thrive. I doubt they care that much. Sports isn't something that Berkeley lives or dies by. Edited August 7, 2023 by dave mcbride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Cal is by most measures one of the five best research universities in the world (as is Stanford). They don't need a name-brand football conference to thrive. I doubt they care that much. Sports isn't something that Berkeley lives or dies by. Their sports program and fans care... just because the research part of a university doesn't care about its football program doesn't mean the OTHERS don't. Edited August 7, 2023 by EasternOHBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 4 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Cal is by most measures one of the five best research universities in the world (as is Stanford). They don't need a name-brand football conference to thrive. I doubt they care that much. Sports isn't something that Berkeley lives or dies by. They care more about spreading the word of how great communism is. 3 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 10 hours ago, Mark Vader said: They care more about spreading the word of how great communism is. Oh please. 10 hours ago, Mark Vader said: They care more about spreading the word of how great communism is. I know a lot of people who went to Berkeley. None care. I think they’re reasonably representative too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 14 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Oh please. I know a lot of people who went to Berkeley. None care. I think they’re reasonably representative too. You don't know enough about how that city and University can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 10 hours ago, Mark Vader said: You don't know enough about how that city and University can be. If you knew anything about me, you’d know this to be wildly untrue. I’ll leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 9 hours ago, dave mcbride said: If you knew anything about me, you’d know this to be wildly untrue. I’ll leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) On 8/7/2023 at 8:27 PM, Mark Vader said: They care more about spreading the word of how great communism is. You'd THINK that someone with 18,800+ posts here would be smarter than to bring politics into a college football forum, but here we are. Edited August 10, 2023 by EasternOHBillsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: You'd THINK that someone with 18,800+ posts here would be smarter than to bring politics into a college football forum, but here we are. Relax, everything's cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 So essentially, we are bounding toward a true minor league NFL tryout league that will decouple from NCAA. I get the evolution, but I hate it. I wish we could have gotten some releases of EA NCAA Football before it got ruined. Essentially, UB/the MAC is IA football now. The question is, would you rather be that? Or be the likes of Rutgers who will be a bunch of human pinatas in the big leagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, May Day 10 said: So essentially, we are bounding toward a true minor league NFL tryout league that will decouple from NCAA. I get the evolution, but I hate it. I wish we could have gotten some releases of EA NCAA Football before it got ruined. Essentially, UB/the MAC is IA football now. The question is, would you rather be that? Or be the likes of Rutgers who will be a bunch of human pinatas in the big leagues? UB is 1A football or FBS 1AA would be current FCS which is still D1 just the lowest level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Yeah, that's what I meant. Essentially the separation between the power conferences and mid majors is going to be much more tangible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 5 hours ago, May Day 10 said: Yeah, that's what I meant. Essentially the separation between the power conferences and mid majors is going to be much more tangible. Kinda sad when you look back at the old rivalry's that no longer exist and has you said the separation from the "Haves" and "Have Nots" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 All of this movement between conferences is making college football less interesting instead of more interesting, for me anyway. Maybe Syracuse will join the PAC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: All of this movement between conferences is making college football less interesting instead of more interesting, for me anyway. Maybe Syracuse will join the PAC? Might as well ditch the old names, and offer conference naming rights to major airlines and aircraft charter carriers? Some of these new alignments are going to involve a lot of air travel. 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Might as well ditch the old names, and offer conference naming rights to major airlines and aircraft charter carriers? Some of these new alignments are going to involve a lot of air travel. 😁 That is sad but true Ridge, nothing brings more excitement than that key matchup in the Exxon Mobil Conference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 One of the great traditions of Cal Football is Tightwad Hill. Literally a hill above where the Bears play football. Not a bad view either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tightwad_Hill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 7:51 AM, frostbitmic said: All of this movement between conferences is making college football less interesting instead of more interesting, for me anyway. Maybe Syracuse will join the PAC? No chance ACC isn't folding yet and if/when they do they probably join big east for basketball and conference usa or something for football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 38 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: No chance ACC isn't folding yet and if/when they do they probably join big east for basketball and conference usa or something for football Good story in The Athletic today about Cal and Stanford joining the ACC. It noted that its just a matter of time until FSU and Clemson leave for the SEC since they already are threatening 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Good story in The Athletic today about Cal and Stanford joining the ACC. It noted that its just a matter of time until FSU and Clemson leave for the SEC since they already are threatening Stanford in the acc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Stanford in the acc? Ya, makes as much sense as USC and UCLA being in the Big 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 5:40 PM, Mike in Horseheads said: Good story in The Athletic today about Cal and Stanford joining the ACC. It noted that its just a matter of time until FSU and Clemson leave for the SEC since they already are threatening No guarantee if the SEC even wants Clemson and FSU. The SEC already has a big presence in SC and FL. So the only thing they add are their brands. From what I have been reading, the big targets are UNC and UVA. This would not only add brands, but new markets as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Cynical said: No guarantee if the SEC even wants Clemson and FSU. The SEC already has a big presence in SC and FL. So the only thing they add are their brands. From what I have been reading, the big targets are UNC and UVA. This would not only add brands, but new markets as well. I'm not sure how much say he would have but I doubt that Dabo wants to be in the SEC, and I can't say that I blame him. Their schedule is just so easy and they can waltz into the playoffs in virtually every season. This would probably not be the case in the SEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Cynical said: No guarantee if the SEC even wants Clemson and FSU. The SEC already has a big presence in SC and FL. So the only thing they add are their brands. From what I have been reading, the big targets are UNC and UVA. This would not only add brands, but new markets as well. I think the big 10 is chasing them but I've seen reports that they bring Va T and NCST if they make a move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Cynical said: No guarantee if the SEC even wants Clemson and FSU. The SEC already has a big presence in SC and FL. So the only thing they add are their brands. From what I have been reading, the big targets are UNC and UVA. This would not only add brands, but new markets as well. UVA is a crap school for football... you'd think they would want UNC and Virginia Tech. UVA to the SEC would be a dumb move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 8/17/2023 at 9:10 PM, EasternOHBillsFan said: UVA is a crap school for football... you'd think they would want UNC and Virginia Tech. UVA to the SEC would be a dumb move. If you think expansion is just about football, you would be wrong. It's about "eyes", and what those eyes mean to TV deals. FB and BB bring the most eyes at the collegiate level. While VT may have the better FB program, UVA has the better BB program. UVA -> the Richmond market. VT -> the Roanoke market. That's a no brainer right there. Besides, Frank Beamer retired after 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mike in Horseheads Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 13 hours ago, B-Man said: . That didn't translate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 8/19/2023 at 11:29 PM, Cynical said: If you think expansion is just about football, you would be wrong. It's about "eyes", and what those eyes mean to TV deals. FB and BB bring the most eyes at the collegiate level. While VT may have the better FB program, UVA has the better BB program. UVA -> the Richmond market. VT -> the Roanoke market. That's a no brainer right there. Besides, Frank Beamer retired after 2015. UVA has NEVER been good in college football, though... their history is abysmal, like the Gamecocks. They don't have a much biggest television market than Blacksburg... check it out, it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 The folks in charge of the PAC-12 could not have messed this up any more than they did. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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May Day 10 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Its a shame. This is maybe the best Pac 12 season as far as the conference top-to-bottom, including the biggest story in college football (Colorado). Its adding a lot of flavor to NCAA football (which has been drab outside the Pac 12 to be honest). Pac 12 is necessary flavoring and it is going to be sucky it is gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 7 hours ago, May Day 10 said: Its a shame. This is maybe the best Pac 12 season as far as the conference top-to-bottom, including the biggest story in college football (Colorado). Its adding a lot of flavor to NCAA football (which has been drab outside the Pac 12 to be honest). Pac 12 is necessary flavoring and it is going to be sucky it is gone Oregon St or Washington St to win the Pac12 is what they want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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