Royale with Cheese Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Aaron Schatz from Football Outsiders was on the afternoon show. Link won’t post but its on the details page on the WGR app. Bills were #1 last year as well for reference. He thinks our defense will dominate this year with everyone coming back. 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Well than i,think we won the off season Maybe next year we'll just win it all for kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Cue the McBeane haters…. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 You are going to make some people very, VERY MAD! 😋 But seriously, I haven’t seen this yet, but it seems to be science. Therefore we like it. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Talking head praises team, therefore they’re a genius. Talking head criticizes the team, he’s an idiot. Round and round we go 2 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 It’s gunna be a long six weeks isn’t it? Lots of time to review media musings … 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Talking head praises team, therefore they’re a genius. Talking head criticizes the team, he’s an idiot. Round and round we go This guy plugs data in and gets his answers. His data has liked the Bills the last couple years so it’s not surprising. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 35 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Talking head praises team, therefore they’re a genius. Talking head criticizes the team, he’s an idiot. Round and round we go OP made no such statement. You just snowflaked your way into thinking that. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 If the Defense stays healthy and Von is back to being himself this will one of the best defenses next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 59 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Aaron Schatz from Football Outsiders was on the afternoon show. Link won’t post but its on the details page on the WGR app. Bills were #1 last year as well for reference. He thinks our defense will dominate this year with everyone coming back. Tremaine Edmunds is coming back ? I was never a huge fan of his, but losing him is going to hurt the DEF. That being said I could easily see our DEF being top 10 next season. Maybe top 5 OFF should be top 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 If Von Miller is at least 80% of what he was last year, this defense could be a monster. We’re a bit dependent upon guys coming back from injury (Von, Tre, Hyde).. but if they are anywhere close to their prior selves, this is a Top 5 defense, legitimately. A defense that should carry over into the Playoffs. On Offense, people can think what they want, but the OL should be improved, Allen is healthy and the weapons are much better. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 I actually think we have some question marks on defense, that could end up being no big deal, but are still there nonetheless. - What will Von Miller be like post-ACL tear? - Will Tre White return to form? - How much will we miss Edmunds? - How effective will Hyde and Poyer be after injury-filled last season? - Will Elam take the next step and be a legit starter at CB2 (able to handle both man and zone)? - How will things be different with McDermott calling the plays? Might all be good, but definitely some risk for regression there. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This guy plugs data in and gets his answers. His data has liked the Bills the last couple years so it’s not surprising. That's true. But the data they use, and the analysis they use, generates surprisingly good results. Their process compares teams and players in positions in a very clever and detailed way, so by the second half of the season, they have surprisingly good takes on which teams are playing well and which aren't. At this time of year, their analysis is largely looking backward and making some projections about which players will be good. That's when they become just another website expressing their opinion. So, what his analysis really means is that the Bills were one of the very best teams in the league last season, and based on their assumptions about players (White, Poyer, White, Miller, etc.) they should be very good again this season. It's a pretty logical conclusion, but it's not worth much more than the colculsions any one of us reaches about what 2023 will be like. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) Objectively, this is the best Bills team since the '90s - and possibly better than those teams. It's the 1st time in the JA era that I feel like there is real balance on the team. There really aren't any weak units. The O-line should be vastly improved w/ the acquisitions - and I'm incredibly excited to see us FINALLY have a run game that doesn't rely on Allen. I don't think some fans here understand yet how good Harris can be when healthy. I'm stoked. Especially since the unanimous opinion in the rest of NFL fandom & punditry is that the Bills are "taking a step back" this year. Edited June 20, 2023 by Success 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 There are outliers, but it's so hard for defenses to be dominant these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Talking head praises team, therefore they’re a genius. Talking head criticizes the team, he’s an idiot. Round and round we go Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Aaron Schatz from Football Outsiders was on the afternoon show. Link won’t post but its on the details page on the WGR app. Bills were #1 last year as well for reference. He thinks our defense will dominate this year with everyone coming back. Homer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Signing Floyd to compliment Rousseau was brilliant. Don't rush Von back too early. And when he does return (week 6?), keep him on a snap count. Hyde & Poyer healthy will be huge. We'll see which LB rises up to pair with Milano. At the very least I think we'll be a top 8 D. I'm actually a little excited to see Sean take everything over. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, DapperCam said: I actually think we have some question marks on defense, that could end up being no big deal, but are still there nonetheless. - What will Von Miller be like post-ACL tear? - Will Tre White return to form? - How much will we miss Edmunds? - How effective will Hyde and Poyer be after injury-filled last season? - Will Elam take the next step and be a legit starter at CB2 (able to handle both man and zone)? - How will things be different with McDermott calling the plays? Might all be good, but definitely some risk for regression there. All valid questions. Im not worried at all about McDermott. I just can’t see him letting this defense drop. This is what got him a HC job and he’s going to to want to remind everyone of that. In regards to Edmunds. I think the loss of him makes our defense different, and not necessarily worse. Very polarizing and interesting player, but he has very defined strengths and weaknesses - as alluded to by Beane. Regardless.. the swap of Edmunds for Floyd, Ford and Rapp is a significant improvement, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 I thought last year was the strongest roster the Bills would be able to field in the Josh Allen era (due to numerous escalating salaries like Stefon, Von, and Josh). Beane proved me wrong and went out and signed vets like Rapp, Poona, and Leonard Floyd for far less than market value. It’s the strongest roster on paper since the SB years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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