SCBills Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Feel free to merge or move to another forum, but a lot of people owe this man an apology. 11 3 6 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Hopefully he gets his career back at least. He'll never be a Bill, but some NFL team should give him a shot. 9 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 It’ll get overlooked……people will still refer to him as a rapist…..once your labeled it’s no shaking it even if your found innocent. 3 2 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuiwek Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Punt god is back! ...? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Bills Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Poor guy. Can never rush to judgement. Hopefully he gets another opportunity. 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Good for Matt. I think the situation was such that the Bills had to cut him so that he could go and focus on defending his life. I don't think the Bills or anyone else owe an apology. Mat should blame himself for putting himself in such a position. 1 12 3 17 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) Yep. I linked an article a few weeks ago about how the ADA told her she had no case because she lied about it all. Edited May 8, 2023 by Doc 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) Anxiously awaiting all of you Bills podcast hosts, content creators and Twitter clout chasers who read the board to publicly apologize for what they said about this man… I know, I know… they’ll say nothing. Edited May 8, 2023 by SCBills 11 6 5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) The question now becomes, are she/her lawyer really stupid enough to continue with the civil suit? And when does he counter sue? Edited May 8, 2023 by Doc 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Crazy world we live in...... Hope he gets another shot (sure he will now) and just blasts the hell out of the ball in the NFL. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Pretty sure I was flamed for even suggesting we shouldn’t judge him before the facts come out (not sure if it was on here or elsewhere). This is the sad side of “believe all women”. Hopefully he gets himself on track! 17 26 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Unfortunately it won't be enough for some people. When it comes to sexual assault charges, the accused is forever guilty and any evidence to the contrary is dismissed as a lie or conspiracy. While not the same circumstance, Amber Heard still has throngs of diehard believers despite mountains of evidence showing her to be an objectively terrible person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) Unfortunately this is the America we live in If you are even close to being under the microscope… You better leave a squeaky clean life Because if somebody cries rape at your house you’re going to get hit with it innocent until proven guilty in this country Edited May 8, 2023 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HappyDays Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, ganesh said: I think the situation was such that the Bills had to cut him so that he could go and focus on defending his life. I don't think the Bills or anyone else owe an apology. The Bills did nothing wrong. I respect that Beane didn't jump on the bandwagon, I could tell that he found it difficult to let Araiza go after the Bills had run their own investigation and found nothing incriminating. But there was a black cloud hanging over the team after the allegation came out and it just isn't worth holding on to a punter with that kind of baggage. I just hope he gets his NFL career back. 2 2 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Just now, 1ManRaid said: Unfortunately it won't be enough for some people. When it comes to sexual assault charges, the accused is forever guilty and any evidence to the contrary is dismissed as a lie or conspiracy. While not the same circumstance, Amber Heard still has throngs of diehard believers despite mountains of evidence showing her to be an objectively terrible person. He's got proof he wasn't there at the time of the alleged gang rape. Many cases don't have that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 minute ago, HamSandwhich said: Pretty sure I was flamed for even suggesting we shouldn’t judge him before the facts come out (not sure if it was on here or elsewhere). This is the sad side of “believe all women”. Hopefully he gets himself on track! You weren't alone. I was heavily in the "the evidence doesn't add up" camp. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 Just now, HappyDays said: The Bills did nothing wrong. I respect that Beane didn't jump on the bandwagon, I could tell that he found it difficult to let Araiza go after the Bills had run their own investigation and found nothing incriminating. But there was a black cloud hanging over the team after the allegation came out and it just isn't worth holding on to a punter with that kind of baggage. I just hope he gets his NFL career back. Yea, I don’t fault Beane at all. The public pressure (and likely internal NFL pressure) was too much. You could tell Beane felt torn up inside to have to let Arazia go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Just now, HappyDays said: The Bills did nothing wrong. I respect that Beane didn't jump on the bandwagon, I could tell that he found it difficult to let Araiza go after the Bills had run their own investigation and found nothing incriminating. But there was a black cloud hanging over the team after the allegation came out and it just isn't worth holding on to a punter with that kind of baggage. I just hope he gets his NFL career back. I heard more than a few people saying that he should sue the Bills/NFL. He's got no case against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) So we’re basically backed into a corner and expected to cut this guy, a potentially great draft pick, over something that wasn’t even true in the end. Pisses me off actually. Edited May 9, 2023 by BobBelcher 13 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Stads said: This is partially a joke I hope? If not, holy sh*t man She should do the time ariza would have done if found guilty … in a woman prison accusing people of rape is lowest of lows Edited May 8, 2023 by Buffalo716 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 I thought this information was already known. Coulda have sworn the it was that he dropped her off there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Good for him. Glad he is innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Cost him some money and his reputation is ruined forever even being innocent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 It was determined the guy was not there when the group stuff happened. I hope people don’t plan to rehash all that. Bad things happened, in several regards, and she is not fully innocent. But please, let’s not start all over again. This is why we should never rush to judgment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, SCBills said: Feel free to merge or move to another forum, but a lot of people owe this man an apology. I was just coming here to post this! I wonder how many people will actually read the undeniable facts that 100% clear him or just ignore them and ignorantly proclaim he’s guilty still. 5 hours ago, SCBills said: Anxiously awaiting all of you Bills podcast hosts, content creators and Twitter clout chasers who read the board to publicly apologize for what they said about this man… I know, I know… they’ll say nothing. I can name a few that were spouting ignorance about this in the past couple of weeks proclaiming no charges filed doesn’t mean he is innocent and that he still likely did it. 5 hours ago, HamSandwhich said: Pretty sure I was flamed for even suggesting we shouldn’t judge him before the facts come out (not sure if it was on here or elsewhere). This is the sad side of “believe all women”. Hopefully he gets himself on track! I was right there saying the same thing and getting flamed for having the “audacity” to suggest we wait until we have real facts before ruining someone’s life. Edited May 9, 2023 by Alphadawg7 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 That really sucks for Araiza. Wonder why it took so long for authorities to determine he wasn't there. He may have been by himself that night and no alibi per se. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, Rc2catch said: Cost him some money and his reputation is ruined forever even being innocent His reputation was temporarily damaged. It has no impact on my view of him, and I wish him well going forward. A LOT of lessons to be learned here for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Augie said: His reputation was temporarily damaged. It has no impact on my view of him, and I wish him well going forward. A LOT of lessons to be learned here for everyone. Lessons sure But his reputation has absolutely been impacted… Half of the country will never even hear that he was cleared and his name will always be synonymous with a rapist He lost his career and millions of dollars She should go to jail 6 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Augie said: His reputation was temporarily damaged. It has no impact on my view of him, and I wish him well going forward. A LOT of lessons to be learned here for everyone. I typically think better of people who are innocent of rape over actual rapists. That’s just me though .. to each, their own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Doc said: I heard more than a few people saying that he should sue the Bills/NFL. He's got no case against them. Yeah unfortunately after "this woman belongs in jail", suing the Bills is the #2 sentiment I've seen. I was against him being cut at the time, but I understood the Bills were also victims in the situation and were all but forced to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: She should do the time ariza would have done if found guilty … in a woman prison accusing people of rape is lowest of lows In theory I agree that false accusers should get serious jail time, but it's hard to prove a false accusation to a criminal standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: In theory I agree that false accusers should get serious jail time, but it's hard to prove a false accusation to a criminal standard. Typically. But there is a lot of evidence in this case she lied. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I was right there saying the same thing and getting flamed for having the “audacity” to suggest we wait until we have real facts before ruining someone’s life. In fact, there is a low life poster here who literally DM’d me, threatened me, and demanded to know what lot number I was going to be at so he could fight me over that. I should have reported him, but didn’t…although I still have the DM. Guarantee that ignorant fool doesn’t even apologize either. Jesus Effin Christ, report that lunatic. Is he still active? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Augie said: What on earth would make you think that was a good idea? If you delete it, I’ll delete the quote. Yeah the assault comment by that poster is uncalled for…BUT she should face consequences for her intentionally ruining a man’s career over lies, even maybe should go to prison. Not only did she lie about Araiza, but the police have video evidence from inside the room from two of the alleged attackers and nothing suggests what was going on wasn’t consensual, so she may have fabricated the whole story. Then her own friends and other witnesses gave statements she was wasn’t wasted, told people she was 18, and bragged about having sex two different times that night prior to even going to that room. She was also running around the party telling people “I want you **** me, and if you don’t **** me then you are a *****.” This woman intentionally ruined a man’s life over lies, things like this should have criminal and financial consequences. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, ganesh said: Good for Matt. I think the situation was such that the Bills had to cut him so that he could go and focus on defending his life. I don't think the Bills or anyone else owe an apology. Mat should blame himself for putting himself in such a position. I mean if his story from the article is completely accurate and he was taking a leak, and she was BSing her friends when she went back inside, then all he really did was be a name in the general area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: I typically think better of people who are innocent of rape over actual rapists. That’s just me though .. to each, their own. I have a pretty funny folder going on my home PC of tweets with 100s of thousands of likes/interactions containing blatant, often malicious lies from various bluecheck accounts, prominent papers and journalists etc. Whose quiet updates/corrections are tweeted later and receive audiences 2+ orders of magnitude smaller in size. Once the initial damage is done it will never come close to being fully reversed, and a large chunk of our population is lobotomized because of this and countless other behaviors like it 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, Doc said: Typically. But there is a lot of evidence in this case she lied. She was underaged at a party with a lot of alcohol. You will never be able to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that she consented to every sexual act that night. Any prosecutor wouldn't even bother filing charges. In a perfect world there would be some kind of justice here, but ultimately everyone involved will just have to get on with their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: In theory I agree that false accusers should get serious jail time, but it's hard to prove a false accusation to a criminal standard. Not in this case though, mountains of evidence showing it. Let’s not forget, her own Journal stated she had no idea who led her to that room. But in a civil suit for money, she lied and said it was him despite the fact he wasn’t even there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: She was underaged at a party with a lot of alcohol. You will never be able to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that she consented to every sexual act that night. Any prosecutor wouldn't even bother filing charges. In a perfect world there would be some kind of justice here, but ultimately everyone involved will just have to get on with their lives. Unless she was on video… Looking sober enough Talking about how she hooked up with a bunch of guys… Lots of videos at parties If a woman accused me of rape I would want the hammer dropped Edited May 9, 2023 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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