Mr Info Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 My Experience appt is finished. I was told by one of the guides they have a 70% hit rate in the first wave but I did not commit to anything. The junior Legends rep said she would send details of what was discussed per PSL in a ppt presentation in email. May wait a day to post my notes to check against her slides. Hurrying up to catch a flight from BUF. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Those going to games will contribute a share to the stadium cost. We already are through taxes. 12 minutes ago, Mr Info said: My Experience appt is finished. I was told by one of the guides they have a 70% hit rate in the first wave but I did not commit to anything. The junior Legends rep said she would send details of what was discussed per PSL in a ppt presentation in email. May wait a day to post my notes to check against her slides. Hurrying up to catch a flight from BUF. Look forward to reading your notes. Were you impressed with the 3d view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Well it’s good to know somebody took the time to put together a PowerPoint! Did it have more renderings? 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 40 minutes ago, Einstein said: We already are through taxes. Yes, taxes are part of it, but those actually buying tickets will pay extra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Do you think he will violate the NDA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, Punching Bag said: Do you think he will violate the NDA? How serious are they, how enforceable is it, and does he feel like taking them on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 3/21 - Added East Club pricing & benefits. Pricing is for 2 seats. Below is a club seat summary. Will edit it when/if I receive more info. PSLs are transferable or can be resold. All seats will have PSLs. Only club seat and 2026 season tix have been priced. No info on stadium seat PSL or season ticket pricing has been released. Not going to provide pricing on Founders clubs as those people are immune to pricing. The PSL club pricing I am providing is for 2 tix. The East & West clubs PSL are $40k. West side clubs are on either side of the suites starting at approximately 25 yd lines. The East clubs run entire sideline. About half PSL down payment and interest free monthly payments until ‘26 season. Monthly payment varies from when you place down payment. East & West club seats are covered and have radiant heating. Nice inside club area where you pay for drinks & food & there are restrooms and can watch the game while you eat&drink until you decide to return to your seats. 1,200 seats in West club and 5k seats in East club. Purchasing PSL early locks in $10,330 for 2026 season tix (2 tickets). Field clubs $30k for 2 ticket PSL are in lower level bordering midfield. I believe 1.200 Field club seats. No covering and no heating but have access to large Field club indoor area with food&drink&restrooms. Again game viewing area from club until you return to your seats. Purchasing these early locks in $8,610 for 2026 season tix. All PSLs offer a 10 yr payment plan with M&T bank with 10.49% interest if you do not want to pay immediately or use the monthly (~2 yr) plan. Nice presentation on the stadium design for wind prevention due to perforations in the structure and opening in the roof. Did not feel like a time share presentation as I felt no pressure to sign. The PSL and ticket pricing was at the end. I said beforehand that I would run everything by my wife as she was unable to travel this time. Edited March 21 by Mr Info Added pics & text 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 hours ago, Punching Bag said: Do you think he will violate the NDA? The numbers are astronomical otherwise there's no reason to hide them behind a closed access sales pitch. Lock in as many Chet and Muffys as possible, then let the unwashed masses know that they've lost the seats they've had for 50 years to people paying $20k a seat so they feel fortunate to "only" have a PSL fee of 5k per seat to sit in the worst seats in the building. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mr Info said: Below is a club seat summary. Will edit it when/if I receive more info. PSLs are transferable or can be resold. All seats will have PSLs. Only club seat and 2026 season tix have been priced. No info on stadium seat PSL or season ticket pricing has been released. Not going to provide pricing on Founders clubs as those people are immune to pricing. The PSL club pricing I am providing is for 2 tix. The East & West clubs PSL are $40k. West side clubs are on either side of the suites starting at approximately 25 yd lines. The East clubs run entire sideline. About half PSL down payment and interest free monthly payments until ‘26 season. Monthly payment varies from when you place down payment. East & West club seats are covered and have radiant heating. Nice inside club area where you pay for drinks & food & there are restrooms and can watch the game while you eat&drink until you decide to return to your seats. 1,200 seats in West club and 5k seats in East club. Purchasing PSL early locks in $10,330 for 2026 season tix (2 tickets). Field clubs $30k for 2 ticket PSL are in lower level bordering midfield. I believe 1.200 Field club seats. No covering and no heating but have access to large Field club indoor area with food&drink&restrooms. Again game viewing area from club until you return to your seats. Purchasing these early locks in $8,610 for 2026 season tix. All PSLs offer a 10 yr payment plan with M&T bank with 10.49% interest if you do not want to pay immediately or use the monthly (~2 yr) plan. Nice presentation on the stadium design for wind prevention due to perforations in the structure and opening in the roof. Did not feel like a time share presentation as I felt no pressure to sign. The PSL and ticket pricing was at the end. I said beforehand that I would run everything by my wife as she was unable to travel this time. Great info! So East & West clubs carry a $20K PSL and go about $650 a ticket, and Field clubs carry a $15K PSL and are about $550 a ticket. I think that's in the ballpark of what many were thinking for the expensive club seats. Edited March 20 by QCity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 “That’s a lotta bread, Lou!” LOL. Old timers will remember this from a TV commercial back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: The numbers are astronomical otherwise there's no reason to hide them behind a closed access sales pitch. Lock in as many Chet and Muffys as possible, then let the unwashed masses know that they've lost the seats they've had for 50 years to people paying $20k a seat so they feel fortunate to "only" have a PSL fee of 5k per seat to sit in the worst seats in the building. PSL cost is designed for ticket agencies and ticket brokers to buy who will be able to use it as business expense and just pass on costs so not care as much. Bills stopped selling tickets to fan groups in late 2010s and changed over to ticket agencies and ticket brokers to make more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 12 minutes ago, Mr Info said: The East & West clubs PSL are $40k. West side clubs are on either side of the suites starting at approximately 25 yd lines. The East clubs run entire sideline. About half PSL down payment and interest free monthly payments until ‘26 season. Monthly payment varies from when you place down payment. East & West club seats are covered and have radiant heating. Nice inside club area where you pay for drinks & food & there are restrooms and can watch the game while you eat&drink until you decide to return to your seats. 1,200 seats in West club and 5k seats in East club. Purchasing PSL early locks in $10,330 for 2026 season tix (2 tickets). Field clubs $30k for 2 ticket PSL are in lower level bordering midfield. I believe 1.200 Field club seats. No covering and no heating but have access to large Field club indoor area with food&drink&restrooms. Again game viewing area from club until you return to your seats. Purchasing these early locks in $8,610 for 2026 season tix. So you have to pay 40 grand to get access to an area where you can then pay more for food and drinks? Sounds awesome 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: So you have to pay 40 grand to get access to an area where you can then pay more for food and drinks? Sounds awesome Pegula's yacht is going to have a pay toilet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griecoa10 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Great info. Any pics or renderings of the seats or clubs to share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 32 minutes ago, Mr Info said: Below is a club seat summary. Will edit it when/if I receive more info. PSLs are transferable or can be resold. All seats will have PSLs. Only club seat and 2026 season tix have been priced. No info on stadium seat PSL or season ticket pricing has been released. Not going to provide pricing on Founders clubs as those people are immune to pricing. The PSL club pricing I am providing is for 2 tix. The East & West clubs PSL are $40k. West side clubs are on either side of the suites starting at approximately 25 yd lines. The East clubs run entire sideline. About half PSL down payment and interest free monthly payments until ‘26 season. Monthly payment varies from when you place down payment. East & West club seats are covered and have radiant heating. Nice inside club area where you pay for drinks & food & there are restrooms and can watch the game while you eat&drink until you decide to return to your seats. 1,200 seats in West club and 5k seats in East club. Purchasing PSL early locks in $10,330 for 2026 season tix (2 tickets). Field clubs $30k for 2 ticket PSL are in lower level bordering midfield. I believe 1.200 Field club seats. No covering and no heating but have access to large Field club indoor area with food&drink&restrooms. Again game viewing area from club until you return to your seats. Purchasing these early locks in $8,610 for 2026 season tix. All PSLs offer a 10 yr payment plan with M&T bank with 10.49% interest if you do not want to pay immediately or use the monthly (~2 yr) plan. Nice presentation on the stadium design for wind prevention due to perforations in the structure and opening in the roof. Did not feel like a time share presentation as I felt no pressure to sign. The PSL and ticket pricing was at the end. I said beforehand that I would run everything by my wife as she was unable to travel this time. The model. WHAT ABOUT THE MODEL?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 13 minutes ago, Griecoa10 said: Great info. Any pics or renderings of the seats or clubs to share? No, the reps I was with enforced, nicely, no pics 2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: The model. WHAT ABOUT THE MODEL?? The model was outstanding and one of the first presentations but no pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, Mr Info said: No, the reps I was with enforced, nicely, no pics The model was outstanding and one of the first presentations but no pics. Thanks. On a 1-10 scale of that stadium is going to be super cool, what do you give it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griecoa10 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I’ve got 3 seats in 215. Based on this pricing, I’ll certainly have to decline the club offer when I get the call. It will be interesting where they put us next in the line for regular seats (prob the very back). But I’m guessing there will be plenty of people that have $750 seats currently that will balk at a ~$2-5k PSL and a $1400 ticket price that I’d sign up for that instead. Going to be a long wait before we get to that point I assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 The pissing and moaning on here about the seat prices is hilarious. This should come as no surprise to anyone, its been discussed here for at least a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 $40k is more than the nations average salary. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 52 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: So you have to pay 40 grand to get access to an area where you can then pay more for food and drinks? Sounds awesome As soon as they said “the club areas will have a roof covering, radiant heating and indoor food”… I would told them blankly, “that’s exactly what we have at 50 year old stadium right now”. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 12 minutes ago, Einstein said: $40k is more than the nations average salary. Wow. Buffalo has been stuck in a time warp as far as pricing goes for professional sports tickets. This is the going rate for premium seating nowadays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 34 minutes ago, Mr Info said: No, the reps I was with enforced, nicely, no pics I still don’t understand this. I understand they don’t want the pricing to get out, but why don’t they want us to see the stadium!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Mr Info said: Purchasing PSL early locks in $10,330 for 2026 season tix (2 tickets). I'm out. That's about double what I'm paying now, even before adding in the PSL. Looks like it's secondary market for me. I'll still go and check out the presentation though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 25 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Thanks. On a 1-10 scale of that stadium is going to be super cool, what do you give it? It appears they paid great attention to detail. The clubs are much nicer and way more spacious than the current ones. Plus, you can watch the field rather than looking at a monitor while drinking and eating. The virtual 3D field views looked awesome. The test where someone burned smoke to show how the perforated shell design in a model would bring the smoke through the middle of the roof rather than being blown all over the stadium was impressive. I am on optimist so giving it a 9. Another item that is being added is new security technology where you pass through gates (no removing phone or other devices). They mentioned this technology would be used at Gate 5 in the current stadium if you are looking to move quickly through security next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 32 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: The pissing and moaning on here about the seat prices is hilarious. This should come as no surprise to anyone, its been discussed here for at least a year It's the cost yes, but its moreso the slimy way they are going about their business thus far. I saw what the Eagles did when they built their new stadium and a big segment of their fanbase was permanently priced out of the building. The Eagles don't care, they make their money, but the stadium atmosphere has never been the same since. The Bills currently have one of the great atmospheres in sports and they are in the process of destroying it. Probably permanently. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Did they mention how much parking is going up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Mr Info said: Below is a club seat summary. Will edit it when/if I receive more info. PSLs are transferable or can be resold. All seats will have PSLs. Only club seat and 2026 season tix have been priced. No info on stadium seat PSL or season ticket pricing has been released. Not going to provide pricing on Founders clubs as those people are immune to pricing. The PSL club pricing I am providing is for 2 tix. The East & West clubs PSL are $40k. West side clubs are on either side of the suites starting at approximately 25 yd lines. The East clubs run entire sideline. About half PSL down payment and interest free monthly payments until ‘26 season. Monthly payment varies from when you place down payment. East & West club seats are covered and have radiant heating. Nice inside club area where you pay for drinks & food & there are restrooms and can watch the game while you eat&drink until you decide to return to your seats. 1,200 seats in West club and 5k seats in East club. Purchasing PSL early locks in $10,330 for 2026 season tix (2 tickets). Field clubs $30k for 2 ticket PSL are in lower level bordering midfield. I believe 1.200 Field club seats. No covering and no heating but have access to large Field club indoor area with food&drink&restrooms. Again game viewing area from club until you return to your seats. Purchasing these early locks in $8,610 for 2026 season tix. All PSLs offer a 10 yr payment plan with M&T bank with 10.49% interest if you do not want to pay immediately or use the monthly (~2 yr) plan. Nice presentation on the stadium design for wind prevention due to perforations in the structure and opening in the roof. Did not feel like a time share presentation as I felt no pressure to sign. The PSL and ticket pricing was at the end. I said beforehand that I would run everything by my wife as she was unable to travel this time. So if you were interested in “downgrading” your seats, when do you get that option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: So if you were interested in “downgrading” your seats, when do you get that option? That was not available yet. No PSL or ticket pricing for anything other than clubs. It appears they are going through all the club customers first. I would contact your ticket rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 10 minutes ago, Punching Bag said: Did they mention how much parking is going up? Which parking? Helicopter or palanquin? 5 minutes ago, Mr Info said: That was not available yet. No PSL or ticket pricing for anything other than clubs. It appears they are going through all the club customers first. I would contact your ticket rep. They dont want to show you the downgrade option because they know people will take it. If it's not an option they can sell the top tier and makes claims like they have "a 70% hit rate" to make you feel like a schmuck for not signing on to the top tier like the rest of your current peer group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I'm in the military and I'm stationed in Arizona. I don't retire from the military until 2027. I'm in section 135 Row 35. I'm very curious how much my seats would cost. I haven't been contacted by my rep yet, but I'm hoping they can allow me to do the experience in the summertime when my daughter is on break. I need to plan ahead a trip to Buffalo for all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 5 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said: I'm in the military and I'm stationed in Arizona. I don't retire from the military until 2027. I'm in section 135 Row 35. I'm very curious how much my seats would cost. I haven't been contacted by my rep yet, but I'm hoping they can allow me to do the experience in the summertime when my daughter is on break. I need to plan ahead a trip to Buffalo for all of this. Expect to be told 10k a seat for the PSL in a corresponding section with tickets then being a couple Gs on top of that. I'm not joking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I was thinking they would replace the old stadium with a parking garage structure with exit ramps to primary roads with lights timed to allow the higher priced parking access to roads first like Disney World VIP access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Punching Bag said: I was thinking they would replace the old stadium with a parking garage structure with exit ramps to primary roads with lights timed to allow the higher priced parking access to roads first like Disney World VIP access. don't give them ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET1062 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 23 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Expect to be told 10k a seat for the PSL in a corresponding section with tickets then being a couple Gs on top of that. I'm not joking. I'm out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 18 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Expect to be told 10k a seat for the PSL in a corresponding section with tickets then being a couple Gs on top of that. I'm not joking. Yeah I'm out then. Not spending $20,000 for the rights to purchase seats for thousands of dollars. I'll wait to see if I can move back into the corners, end zones, or 300's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richNjoisy Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 7 hours ago, BillyBilliams said: I'm in the military and I'm stationed in Arizona. I don't retire from the military until 2027. I'm in section 135 Row 35. I'm very curious how much my seats would cost. I haven't been contacted by my rep yet, but I'm hoping they can allow me to do the experience in the summertime when my daughter is on break. I need to plan ahead a trip to Buffalo for all of this. Hey Billy, there's a LOT of doomsayers chiming in here. We still don't know much about pricing especially in non box seats. But some of the wild guesses being thrown around here need to be taken with a grain of salt. Thousands of STHers were given surveys where we could give our priorities and price ranges moving forward. I am not at all surprised that Box seats are in the $500-$600+ per game on top of a $15K-$20K PSL. But those folks are a lot of businesses and people with deep pockets - the former as a tax write off and the latter only go to a few games while selling the rest. I do not have the number but maybe Mr Info can help us by giving us perspective, "HOW MUCH MORE ARE THE SEATS HE WAS SHOWN THAN HIS CURRENT SEATS?" This is irrespective of the PSL's. I believe we are looking at about double? My seats in the Family section run around $70 each so this could reasonably mean comparable seats would be $140-$150. So, $1400 per year or so on the low end. Now, as to PSLs, I DO NOT expect the $10K figure a few people are throwing around. Could be 1K, maybe $2K. So, that's where I am at. if it's less, great. If it's more, then well, we'll see. How much more? In any event, the survey numbers had the range as low as $500 to as high as $50K. The top range in the survey appears to be correct (basically). I certainly made it clear in my survery $10K was too much for my wallet to the Family Section (if there is one). Everyone around me in my section were very concerned about PSLs and said they also made this clear in their surveys. Back to you Billy - I would expect the Bills to make sure you have enough time to plan to come to WNY. Whether it will be in the summer or not depends most likely on the early Box sales. I do not believe the 70% number Mr Info was told. More like, 20-40% Sales people ALWAYS exagerate. Anyway, I urge people to try and calm down until we have more definitive info. But, it's your blood pressure....not mine. Go Bills! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 But the PowerPoint presentation is free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 10 year loan with 11% interest for a license to buy a ticket. Amazing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 38 minutes ago, richNjoisy said: Hey Billy, there's a LOT of doomsayers chiming in here. We still don't know much about pricing especially in non box seats. But some of the wild guesses being thrown around here need to be taken with a grain of salt. Thousands of STHers were given surveys where we could give our priorities and price ranges moving forward. I am not at all surprised that Box seats are in the $500-$600+ per game on top of a $15K-$20K PSL. But those folks are a lot of businesses and people with deep pockets - the former as a tax write off and the latter only go to a few games while selling the rest. I do not have the number but maybe Mr Info can help us by giving us perspective, "HOW MUCH MORE ARE THE SEATS HE WAS SHOWN THAN HIS CURRENT SEATS?" This is irrespective of the PSL's. I believe we are looking at about double? My seats in the Family section run around $70 each so this could reasonably mean comparable seats would be $140-$150. So, $1400 per year or so on the low end. Now, as to PSLs, I DO NOT expect the $10K figure a few people are throwing around. Could be 1K, maybe $2K. So, that's where I am at. if it's less, great. If it's more, then well, we'll see. How much more? In any event, the survey numbers had the range as low as $500 to as high as $50K. The top range in the survey appears to be correct (basically). I certainly made it clear in my survery $10K was too much for my wallet to the Family Section (if there is one). Everyone around me in my section were very concerned about PSLs and said they also made this clear in their surveys. Back to you Billy - I would expect the Bills to make sure you have enough time to plan to come to WNY. Whether it will be in the summer or not depends most likely on the early Box sales. I do not believe the 70% number Mr Info was told. More like, 20-40% Sales people ALWAYS exagerate. Anyway, I urge people to try and calm down until we have more definitive info. But, it's your blood pressure....not mine. Go Bills! He said his season tickets were in 135 which would be the 50 yard line area. There's no way the PSL for that area is only going to be $1000. It probably will be closer to the 10K Range. I'm expecting the upper decks and end zone areas to be more around $1K-2K and that's where the Bills can say they are offering affordable pricing to all current ticket holders. Yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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