Sherlock Holmes Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, teef said: John ***** DiGiorgio. It's not delivery, it's ***** DiGiorgio!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Fletcher easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: What people don’t realize is that in a version of Tampa 2 defense, a tall MLB is your best defense against skinny posts. That’s why Brian Urlacher was so good. London Fletcher would be a liability for this Bills team. Urlacher made plays. Edmunds doesn’t. Edmunds lack of big play ability makes him expendable to me. If our expectations are only for him to not mess up and be functional, then we will never win the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 It’s already been said but give me Spikes all day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 The question is how good will Edmunds be when he reaches his prime. His development is on such an upward trajectory there is no telling how good he can be. The guy was 24 when he finished his time with us. Obviously we could not afford what he will get, but hopefully he stays out of the AFCE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, pennstate10 said: What people don’t realize is that in a version of Tampa 2 defense, a tall MLB is your best defense against skinny posts. That’s why Brian Urlacher was so good. London Fletcher would be a liability for this Bills team. and why the defense will be tweaked finally. agreed 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Eastport bills said: The question is how good will Edmunds be when he reaches his prime. His development is on such an upward trajectory there is no telling how good he can be. The guy was 24 when he finished his time with us. Obviously we could not afford what he will get, but hopefully he stays out of the AFCE. He's also a fish out of water in our alignment, he knows that. All one has to do is watch VA Tech games with him to see that. Again, I think that after he leaves, once he's in a classic 4-3, we'll be talking about him next season just like talk about Teller and to a lesser extent Hodgins. Beane's dumpster-diving is catching up to him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Ray Bentley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, teef said: John ***** DiGiorgio. Are you talking about having Pizza delivered? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Completely different defenses. We play coverage with light boxes all day. Fletcher played with Spikes and Crowell and had big Pat and Sam Adams in front of him and Vincent and Milloy behind him. Edmunds is being asked to be the worlds largest strong safety yet still be our run stopping MLB. Pretty sure any LB would get exposed in the defense we run including Fletcher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: London, dude was underrated and is a victim of fan “group think.” we should have never let him go. Agreed 100%. He was the a product of Aaron schobel syndrome, good player on a bad team who takes way too plan when they aren’t close to the problem. but this isn’t really a fair comparison. Fletcher was already a starting MLB on his second team and was 27. TE is 24 so a better question would be would rather have Fletcher or TE at 27 (with 2 more years of starting experience)? I absolutely love Fletcher and he was more an instinctual MLB while TE is a freak physical talent. But I still kinda believe in the upside of TE and that’s why I hate losing him. But Fletcher is a guy who maximized his talent while we are just hoping that TE will and that would be the best MLB in the league. I get losing him but it sucks. 2 hours ago, Maynard said: It’s already been said but give me Spikes all day. Different positions brother. But that one year of prime spikes was one of the best defensive seasons in Bills history. Just another reason I hate Mike Vick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Fletcher was so much better than Edmunds cmon. I don’t even really want the guy back whatsoever. I’m ready to move on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 My initial thought was to say London even though I like Tremaine faults and all and wish we were getting him resigned. But London could be a liability in todays league with his coverage ability. Idk it’s actually a tougher question than I thought 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 34 minutes ago, PBF81 said: He's also a fish out of water in our alignment, he knows that. All one has to do is watch VA Tech games with him to see that. Again, I think that after he leaves, once he's in a classic 4-3, we'll be talking about him next season just like talk about Teller and to a lesser extent Hodgins. Beane's dumpster-diving is catching up to him. Beane needs his best offseason to keep us in the conversation for SB contender. I don’t know about you, but his FA misses and pedestrian drafts doesn’t give me much confidence. The guy has to bring in some difference makers on both sides of the ball. He passed on Edmunds and he was our best defender. He can get two good players for Edmunds tag money. Let’s see how aggressive he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, PBF81 said: I think that if you compare the first five seasons of each you'll see a different picture. Fletcher's best seasons by a wide margin were his seasons 6-10, his prime years. It's not fair to compare those to Edmund's pre-prime seasons. But to say that we've seen his ceiling when he isn't even in his prime yet is a bit premature, don't ya think. I mean Edmunds will only be 25 this season. Fletcher's best seasons were when he was 28-32. If you ask me, after he leaves we'll be talking about him like we do Teller. The team also doesn't use him entirely to his strengths. Watching him at VA Tech he was prolific. If he's in a similar role in the NFL he'll shine like Fletcher. Possibly better. The one area where he's already better than Fletcher is in his pass-coverage skills. His height helps with that. London's rookie year he practically didn't play. His next 5 years he had better numbers than Edmunds. Fletcher Ints 6 Sacks 18 TFL 47 Edmunds Ints 5 Sacks 6.5 TFL 32 ....maybe Tremaine continues to grow & develop. But I just never see him being a playmaker LB. Hopefully he goes to the NFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Nothing against Fletcher but for today's NFL I'd go with Edmunds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Fletcher, and it's not close 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Kiva said: Fletcher. Edmunds is/was a terrible lb who as a leader couldn’t establish an aggressive culture for the D. A "terrible" LB? He is one of the top FA's out there right now. Opposing fans have a much higher estimation of him than some here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Should be a poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 London Fletcher, and it's not close at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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