Mikie2times Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I what to talk about where my enthusiasm is regarding Tremaine Edmunds possible contract, but I don't feel this is the correct thread, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, KzooMike said: I what to talk about where my enthusiasm is regarding Tremaine Edmunds possible contract, but I don't feel this is the correct thread, We need an underground thread for Tremaine Edmunds fans. We can post it in another sub-forum and name it something misleading. Don’t mind me, I’ll just be heading over to the “Favorite Gluten-Free Bread” thread on the Anything But forum.. Edited February 9, 2023 by TheyCallMeAndy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Tremaine would be 31 after a 7 year contract. THIRTY ONE If 2022 was his floor, you sign him long term. He hasn’t peaked yet. So Edmunds came into the NFL early, it doesn't make up for the fact he is slow to diagnose plays or often doesn't fill the right hole or seems to have tacklers bounce off him. He just flat out isn't good enough as a MLB, should we over pay him and hope he gets to be good as Roquan Smith or find someone cheaper that can offer more value? I say go with the latter. Edited February 9, 2023 by The Jokeman 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: So Edmunds came into the early, it doesn't make up for the fact he is slow to diagnose plays or often doesn't fill the right hole or seems to have tacklers bounce off him. He just flat out isn't good enough as a MLB, should we over pay him and hope he gets to be good as Roquan Smith or find someone cheaper that can offer more value? I say go with the latter. He isn’t perfect, but he does more right than wrong. He was very good this year. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: 120/6 would be Roquan money. I think that is too much. 120/7 comes in around $17m AAV. If that is well structured and moderate on guaranteed money I could get myself there. 7 years with the first 4 years being in the neighborhood of $15M averaged per year with year 5 being the transition year is OK with me. Similar to Josh's contract it's fair for both sides and gives Beane the most flexibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He just flat out isn't good enough as a MLB, should we over pay him and hope he gets to be good as Roquan Smith or find someone cheaper that can offer more value? I say go with the latter. Yep!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: That's Pegula's Cash that only matters to Terry. Not the Cap Hit number that affects what Beane can spend. I don't care about Pegula's cash. The Cap Hit and Dead Cap numbers are the only ones that matter. Cash spent = Cap hit (sooner or later) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 When will people learn that the dollar amount isn’t important in these contracts? It’s only there to make the agent feel important. Here is what is important: - Guaranteed Money - Signing Bonus and dead cap - Ability to restructure You could sign a $120 million dollar contract that basically gives the team a free out after 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 53 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Cash spent = Cap hit (sooner or later) Ehh, well that's fine then. For the record, I wasnt trying to be overly argumentative with you. I was genuinely curious if there was a part of the Cap stuff I wasnt understanding correctly since it's all smoke and mirrors and rainbows and magic. I was a huge Edmunds detractor through last offseason, but if we could get him back on a long term deal structured like Smith's, then I'm all for it. Beane needs to flip his usual script (Draft Defense/FA Offense), and re-sign Edmunds and spend the draft on OL and WR. Go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: 120/6 would be Roquan money. I think that is too much. 120/7 comes in around $17m AAV. If that is well structured and moderate on guaranteed money I could get myself there. Yes on a 7 year deal, with maybe around $60m of that guaranteed, that would work and would be a good deal for both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I want Edmunds back in a bad way. I want a legit 2/1A wide receiver and improvements on the o-line even more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Beast said: I want Edmunds back in a bad way. I want a legit 2/1A wide receiver and improvements on the o-line even more. So sign Edmunds and go OL/WR/OL or WR/OL/OL in the draft 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: So sign Edmunds and go OL/WR/OL or WR/OL/OL in the draft Yes lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 OMG why is this unfounded drivel tolerated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said: OMG why is this unfounded drivel tolerated? Because in terms of drivel, this is nowhere near rock bottom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Because in terms of drivel, this is nowhere near rock bottom. For real, this is just week 3 of the offseason. Wait until June... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 If we resign Edmunds I'll root for him to succeed, of course, but I won't love the financials at $120 million over seven years. Here's why: Our cap situation is NOT a one-year 2023 challenge. With Josh's contract EVERY year will make it challenging to pay for a good O-line, offensive weapons, an effective D-line and corners needed in a passing league. I don't see an MLB as being a cornerstone or essential part of an effective defense in today's passing league. Does it help? Sure. But it's not essential. So paying Edmunds $17 million a year (120/7) means that money can't go elsewhere to another essential piece. Sure the cap will rise each year, but young guys in essential positions will need to be extended, and you can bet that over time certain players will want to renegotiate their deals. $17 million a year for Edmunds or $7 to $10 million for another MLB and $7 to $10 million EXTRA for the O-line. I'll go with the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 This man is about to be very very rich based mostly on potential. Either we are paying him or another team will. I think he is secretly Beane's #1 priority this off-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 You're crazy of you DON'T think they're signing Edmunds long term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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