John from Riverside Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Bills fans are smart they know that the offensive line is where we need to approve Because it affects so many other things It keeps our quarterback, healthy Improves our passing game Improves our running game It keeps opposing offenses off the field, whenever they are playing well It burns clock whenever you have a lead 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Coaching then OL. I looked back at JA's game vs. Seattle. 80% completions. 4 TDs, 400+ yards. What happened to the schemes that generated those kinds of numbers? To the coaching that could instill that kind of discipline and belief in the system in Josh? Did it just move to NYC? No turnovers and 4 takeaways on defense always helps. Coincidentally Klein always played pretty well here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeHeffner11 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 8 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Reducing turnovers. Period. Top 5 roster across the board. This is a very good football team who shot themselves in the foot at the execution level with turnovers. Beane will make moves to improve where he can afford it in the next couple months as usual. Cut this years turnovers in half and I'm not sure we aren't still watching Bills football right now. Still watching Bills football. Are you for real?? The Bengals blew them out of the stadium. The Bills were NEVER in that game so no turnovers wouldn't have helped much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 If you improved the offensive line, even with no new skill players the offense dominates. We had the number two offense with this line playing, but it wasn’t close to good enough against better teams. Also, Shakir and Quinton Morris were underused. Next year we will hopefully work more out of heavy sets where Knox and Morris or Gilliam are all on the field. Run the ball on teams to set up believable play action. I would move Bates to LG, get a new right side of the line in free agency and the draft, and look for Morse’s successor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 Do people think McDermott agrees with this assesment ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckets Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 20 hours ago, I am the egg man said: No all the above option? Where's the problem then? Are you saying we are fine with the way we are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I chose OL. I dont think McDermott is going anywhere and at this point I don't think he will change. Dorsey might get better. Having Allen on here is not unreasonable. Of course they aren't changing QB, but he can and does need to play better. He had some truly awful turnovers last year. He needs to clean that up. But for me they need to get better on the OL. If they can get a stud OT to play LG for one year it makes the whole OL better. Brown showed glimpses of being okay RT. He should get every opportunity to win the RT job again. I would also draft a C/G to develop. Hopefully Morse doesn't retire, but if he does I move Bates to center and replace him with a rookie. Ideally that happens in 2024 not 2023. I left off WR. I think they need to add at least one good WR Hopefully with some size. I'm higher on Davis than most. He is still cheap and productive. Let him play out his final year. I would not extend him but I'm not cutting or trading him either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Having Allen on here is not unreasonable. Of course they aren't changing QB, but he can and does need to play better. He is not going to play better. His production is already either 1-2 or 3 in the NFL by any measure. He does this under virtually constant duress We need to pray he continues to play at his current best-in-show level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 22 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Coaching and OL, but chose coaching. Bengals were down 3 OL. Yeah and the ended up doing snow angels on our own field. Lol soft ass coaches letting this team down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 The four man pass rush with Von was the best it’s ever been under McBeane, worst it’s ever been after Von went down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 At this point of the polling, its Oline and coaching. The follow up question: Is this coaching/gm staff capable of fixing the Oline? Or are these two results connected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 23 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: How is it not coaching? look how the Bills have exited the past 4 years. Coaching is partly what gets the Bills into the playoffs. Is the Bills roster as talented as the rosters of the teams still in the hunt? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Offensive Line is the clear poll winner, which shows that even a bunch of fans can see the big problem. The odd thing is that Beane said protecting Josh was a priority last season and then proceeded to literally just sign an old castoff guard and nothing else. 4 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Coaching is partly what gets the Bills into the playoffs. Does anyone here think McD & Co get into the playoffs without Josh Allen? Maybe they do - as the 7th seed. Now that I think about it, the Bills sans Allen are essentially the Dolphins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 IMO…. OC, Dorsey doesn’t have it. Huge lack of creativity, misuse of personnel, etc, there’s a lot of fans that will disagree and say to give him this or that, another year blah blah blah. After an entire offseason last year and 25 weeks of football (preseason, regular and post), not once did I come away from any game saying, “damn amazing game plan” or “dang great play design”. Many of times we begged him to run a little more…. Many of times it was way to predictable, “here comes a run”, 90% we are correct. Those are things Dorsey has control over and yet things just continually got worse IMO. After the bye week, damn near every fan, analysts, commentators, talk shows would mention something along the lines of, “a win is a win”, no TDs in the second half, “what’s going on?”. Not committing to the run, Diggs being stripped from the offense double up and Dorsey can’t find ways or do anything to get him the ball. It will be more of the same next year. I guarantee it and it’s nothing but wasted time. Don’t be surprised if the bills don’t win 10 games. Our schedule next year is no joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Buckets said: Where's the problem then? Are you saying we are fine with the way we are? Only Barbra Streisand and Robert Redford were fine the way they were. No NFL team should ever think they are. Bills have needs in many areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 32 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Coaching is partly what gets the Bills into the playoffs. Is the Bills roster as talented as the rosters of the teams still in the hunt? I don't think so. the Bills won 13 games with this talent--this isn't the Giants or the Jags or the Seahawks assing into the playoffs. Every year they go out badly. That's coaching. We saw it last week. We saw it last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: the Bills won 13 games with this talent--this isn't the Giants or the Jags or the Seahawks assing into the playoffs. Every year they go out badly. That's coaching. We saw it last week. We saw it last year. I was not previously familiar with this expression. Its pretty funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 They need to improve in the trenches. Period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 The 5 games Insaw this year it was obvious the OLine was going to get Allen Killed. Yes Allen scrambles well but I am sure he wouldn’t mind being able to go back and just pass the ball without being hit or harassed almost every time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Coaching, OL, WR, RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 1/28/2023 at 10:30 AM, Dr.Sack said: Coaching and OL, but chose coaching. Bengals were down 3 OL. I truly believe that had the Bills attempted to run the ball with more consistency ALL season it would've helped mask the offensive line deficiency in pass pro. Their two worse pass protecting linemen were best known for their run blocking ability. Was this an indictment on the RBs, who knows but to put that amount of pressure on a QB that's been through a helluva season, emotionally and physically was piss poor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: the Bills won 13 games with this talent--this isn't the Giants or the Jags or the Seahawks assing into the playoffs. Every year they go out badly. That's coaching. We saw it last week. We saw it last year. Are you saying the Bills looked good the last 4 weeks of the regular season? I’m asking because what I saw was a very good team that would need help to get to the SB.. I mean the Pats game and the Dolphins and Bengals playoff games the flaws showed up a lot IMO. The biggest was the Oline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Einstein said: Offensive Line is the clear poll winner, which shows that even a bunch of fans can see the big problem. The odd thing is that Beane said protecting Josh was a priority last season and then proceeded to literally just sign an old castoff guard and nothing else. Does anyone here think McD & Co get into the playoffs without Josh Allen? Maybe they do - as the 7th seed. Now that I think about it, the Bills sans Allen are essentially the Dolphins. McDermott and Co made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor throwing to Deonte Thompson and Kelvin Benjamin lest we forget. People are getting kind of crazy and taking things for granted. It could be a hell of lot worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: McDermott and Co made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor throwing to Deonte Thompson and Kelvin Benjamin lest we forget. People are getting kind of crazy and taking things for granted. It could be a hell of lot worse. As a 7th seed and scored 3 points. Oh and needed a miracle win by Cinci. But yeah, they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 43 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: McDermott and Co made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor throwing to Deonte Thompson and Kelvin Benjamin lest we forget. People are getting kind of crazy and taking things for granted. It could be a hell of lot worse. The drought was not standard. It was a statistical anomaly of mismanagement. You couldn't do that again on purpose. Perspective is good, but ask the Eagles how good it was to win the NFC East six times, visit the NFC championship game five times, and go to Super Bowl with Andy Reid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninRebel37 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Watching this NFCCG - the Eagles brand/identity is what McDermott wants. Not AS run heavy, but look what a dominant O Line and run ability can do? If we had a solid RB1 and above average Oline, we’d still be playing. I wanna note I do think Motor has RB1 ability (low end anyhow) if they’d committed to him. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I want more offensive lineman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 30, 2023 Author Share Posted January 30, 2023 If you watched the Chiefs / Bengals game and want to change your answer to coaching now, it is easy to do. Just click the show more options button and you can correct your vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 The Bills biggest single player need is another WR1 type. The unit that needs the most work is the OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Offensive and defensive line across the line my whole Buffalo Bills draft would be offensive and defensive line. I would look in free agency for wide receiver in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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