Wawrow hints an Internal Issues with the Bills

[EasternOHBillsFan]

21 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Tim Graham is really unprofessional on his Twitter account, which wouldn't really matter, except that he uses Twitter to promote his work. 

 

Yeah, I never bought into the fact that TG was driven off by TBD users... no matter, I'm not on Twitter to see what he says anyways!

[teef]

1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said:

I do drive one. I also only go to stadiums that have high end amenities that don't sell Genny beer. 

You’re the type of guy that has a 25 year old luxury car with rust spots and thinks you’re a gamer. 

[Teddy KGB]

21 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

It's not just about being priced out being blue collar. It's also how many of you post about the Bills.

Hold on now, you’re complaining about people posting about the Bills on a (wait for it) Bills message board ? 
 

[SinceThe70s]

8 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

Hold on now, you’re complaining about people posting about the Bills on a (wait for it) Bills message board ? 
 

 

 

Does that dog have a blue collar?

[yall]

2 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

I do drive one. I also only go to stadiums that have high end amenities that don't sell Genny beer. 

I'm surprised you have time to post here, what with having to hold down two jobs to pay for maintenance on those broke-ass machines. 

 

 

[Fan in Chicago]

On 11/17/2022 at 10:37 AM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

There are ways to handle negative discourse online.   You can take it and dish it back out.......or you can laugh it off........there are a number of ways but self-importantly announcing your departure and leaving is the funniest and least admirable way, for sure. 

While I agree with your post, allow me to point out how ironic the bolded is, coming from you 😀

Edited November 18, 2022 by Fan in Chicago

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said:

There are big internal issues. The Cole Beasley thing was not a small thing. The rest of the team saw him getting ostracized when others, with covid mind you, they would bend the rules for. 

 

Then you have mcdermott who leaves the offense on an island with Daboll, they all got super close and siloed. Daboll wanted out, gets his job and Dorsey is in over his head, they know it 

John...is that you again? 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

4 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

I do drive one. I also only go to stadiums that have high end amenities that don't sell Genny beer. 

I live in the south and tried Genny beer for the first time.

 

It reminded me of drinking creme soda as a kid, only it was a beer.

 

It wasn't great, it wasn't terrible. 

 

That's my review of it

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

While I agree with your post, allow me to point out how ironic the bolded is, coming from you 😀

 

I don't think Irony is the term you are looking for but I know what you are saying.   I certainly have the techniques for handling negative discourse pretty well down.   As one TSW user says at our tailgates........I return the knife and then twist it for good measure.    Works like a charm.   Never even considered quitting TSW let alone announcing it like a *****.   Others effectively handle perceived attacks by not ever returning even the slightest negativity.  That's great for some too and it's very funny watching Scott work people with that paddle.    Leave the instigator unsatisfied.    JW also had the block feature at his disposal here.   You aren't obligated to answer to anyone.   He could have blocked @LeGOATski but he wanted to take his ball of secrets (that he was never going to tell anyone on TSW) and go home.   

[LeGOATski]

38 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

'Pissed a lot of people off'?

Errr...who, exactly?

Beasley could've kept his trap shut, instead of being a potential divider in the Locker Room.

I really didn't give a rat's @ss, about Beasley's opinions, but his very measurable decline, is what led to his departure after his final season in Buffalo.

Daboll wanted to be a Head Coach. He got his wish.

From what Josh has said, Dorsey was his preferred choice, as OC.

You are trying to create drama, where there is none...

Exaggerated stories. What we see in reality is one of the most fun-loving teams we've ever had. These guys love each other. They were nowhere close to be "torn apart." But we're told not to believe what we see...

[Einstein]

58 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

'Pissed a lot of people off'?

Errr...who, exactly?

Beasley could've kept his trap shut, instead of being a potential divider in the Locker Room.

I really didn't give a rat's @ss, about Beasley's opinions, but his very measurable decline, is what led to his departure after his final season in Buffalo.

Daboll wanted to be a Head Coach. He got his wish.

From what Josh has said, Dorsey was his preferred choice, as OC.

You are trying to create drama, where there is none...

 

Signs do point to Daboll wanting out.

 

Flores lawsuit mentions that Daboll wanted out of Buffalo, even if it wasn’t for a head coach job. In other words, he would consider a lateral job move.

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said:

There are big internal issues. The Cole Beasley thing was not a small thing. The rest of the team saw him getting ostracized when others, with covid mind you, they would bend the rules for.  When the coach or QB didn't speak up for him it pissed a lot of people off

 

Then you have mcdermott who leaves the offense on an island with Daboll, they all got super close and siloed. Daboll wanted out, gets his job and Dorsey is in over his head, they know it.

 

 

Meh, first world problems.

 

Beasley didn't get any slack on the $100K+ fines he was assessed because he drew attention to himself with his social media griping about covid protocols.    He put a target on his back.   If the Bills got caught letting him get away with anything they were likely to be punished.   He alienated HIMSELF.

 

As for Daboll........he engineered the 6 point performance in Jacksonville a year ago this week and a number of other stinkers last year.    He wasn't above reproach for the team struggling to 7-6.

 

Dorsey came into this season seeking to become the first rookie OC to lead a team to a SB win since Mike Holmgren back in 1989.   And Holmgren was taking over a 49ers offense that had already won 3 SB's.......including the season before.    If Dorsey is a work in progress then he is in good company because it's unusual for first time OC's to be their best right away.   Daboll himself was simply pathetic at 3 prior stops as an NFL OC and lousy in his first year in Buffalo too.

[RocCityRoller]

1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said:

There are big internal issues. The Cole Beasley thing was not a small thing. The rest of the team saw him getting ostracized when others, with covid mind you, they would bend the rules for.  When the coach or QB didn't speak up for him it pissed a lot of people off

 

Then you have mcdermott who leaves the offense on an island with Daboll, they all got super close and siloed. Daboll wanted out, gets his job and Dorsey is in over his head, they know it.

 

To the point of the bold text, in this past offseason the Bills brought in:

Mike Shula (former NFL OC and college HC (Alabama))

Aaron Kromer (former interim NFL HC and NFL OC)

Joe Brady (former NFL OC)

 

That is a lot of cooks in the kitchen brought in to assist Dorsey in making the leap.

Are those moves you make if you are 100% onboard with your new OC?

 

just something to think about

[JDubya76]

On 11/16/2022 at 11:42 PM, john wawrow said:

Nah.

Here’s the deal.

It’s tough enough wading through all the ***** I do on Twitter.

 

I’ve been on here for a long time (but not so much of late), and have occasionally been asked to share some insight.

Here, given how much of time passed from last season, I thought I’d share something about something you folks might be interested in that I’ve come across but really doesn’t impact THIS season.

 

So I shared and found out that this is board is a lot like the experience of engaging with all the ***** on Twitter.

 

So call me thin-skinned, call me a ***** #######, or tell me that I suck, or don’t know anything, I’ll be fine with it, because it’s all been directed at me on the Twitter.

Thing is, I don’t need to go through it twice. 

So this IS my last post.

 

See ya.

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

Signs do point to Daboll wanting out.

 

Flores lawsuit mentions that Daboll wanted out of Buffalo, even if it wasn’t for a head coach job. In other words, he would consider a lateral job move.

Because he knew he wouldn't be a HC in Buffalo any time soon and he'd already been an OC for 3 years... Anyone with a desire for upward mobility would wanna go somewhere that provides a chance to do that.

 

At this point, Buffalo presents an opportunity for a coordinator to get their name out there, not to take over a team.

[Einstein]

34 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Because he knew he wouldn't be a HC in Buffalo any time soon and he'd already been an OC for 3 years... Anyone with a desire for upward mobility would wanna go somewhere that provides a chance to do that.

 

At this point, Buffalo presents an opportunity for a coordinator to get their name out there, not to take over a team.

 

That makes absolutely no sense.

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said:

well the QB has regressed here and Daboll has a better record with less talent in his next stop

 

But Dabolls offense did struggle once In Jacksonville lol

 

 

 

They struggled ONCE?

 

They lost OTHER games where they scored just 10, 15 and 16 in falling to 7-6.

 

The Bills offense this season has been more productive against a better schedule..........they've not had a scoring performance as low as those 6, 10, 15 or 16 Daboll doozies yet...........despite Allen turning the ball over like crazy in the red zone this year when he had rarely done so the prior 3 seasons.

 

I don't wish Daboll ill but he is getting fellated  like 2016 Ben McAdoo here.   

 

 

[GoBills808]

1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said:

well the QB has regressed here and Daboll has a better record with less talent in his next stop

 

But Dabolls offense did struggle once In Jacksonville lol

 

 

2022 Bills offense- 424 ypg 27.8 ppg

2021 Bills offense- 382 ypg 28.4 ppg

[SWATeam]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

2022 Bills offense- 424 ypg 27.8 ppg

2021 Bills offense- 382 ypg 28.4 ppg

Is that for the whole season last year with the most incredible weather games in memory?

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

Is that for the whole season last year with the most incredible weather games in memory?

Yes, that's third year Daboll's offense of 2021 vs rookie Dorsey's half finished 2022 campaign, which also happens to include about 6 quarters of his offense sitting due to blowouts.