BRH Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tulsabillsfanz said: Justin Jefferson made incredible plays down the stretch. I’m not sure how many of those would’ve been prevented by Hyde, Poyer, White & Elam. I’d hope enough to get us the W, but I don’t know. Jefferson is *****in elite. He made plays. All respect to him. That said, he did it all against a backup secondary. Facts. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Allen? He made the decision to not go for the field goal? ST was trotting out there, Allen wouldn't leave. McD backed down, left the O out and let him try 4th and 2 after failing on 2nd and 2, and 3rd and 2. The results were as dumb as the decision, and ultimately was the margin of loss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Dorsey needs to sign up for a Chan Gailey master class online and learn some screen game and throwing to the FB. Our screen game is horrid. Of the 3 or 4 screens I saw Josh had to throw it into the dirt on 3 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 59 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: This is 100% not a Super Bowl team. It’s not even close. List of teams better than the Bills. KC obviously Miami Bengals Raiders Jags Broncos Pats Chargers Browns Texans Steelers Speaking of someone who needs attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 This board is unbelievable. I understand disappointment. But three weeks ago, all were ready to crown Josh. He made some bad throws against the Pack in the 2nd half and now he is pressing. You can see it in his face, body language and decision-making. But he will sort it out. Needs to start having fun and let the game come to him. He will. Everybody need to chill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, SCBills said: No team has had this many absurd losses in recent memory. Hail Murray, 13 seconds and now this epic disaster. This isn’t normal. Unfortunately, this team is writing their story on blowing leads and failing to close games. Lots of their problems closing out games is due to the lack of a running game. It is that simple. The middle of that OL is not good and it's hard to run when your backs get hit in the backfield. You have to wonder if the team confidence is impacted in close games based on the continuous poor results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Unfortunately I think you are right; his inconsistency is a part of who he is. We have a more athletic Favre. However, Favre was at his best with a taskmaster (Holmgren) who helped him keep his propensity for bad choices in check 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, Mark Vader said: You really think the commercials are responsible for this? When player's sign up to commercials I do think it's a sign of believing their own hype. It's not like he needs more money. is it? He's a Quarterback, not a promoter. Ditch future deals and focus on the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just found out that Cook and Hynes had a combined three touches in the second half LMAO don't let Dorsey back in the building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: The mid season slump is officially an annual tradition. Every season they have a stretch of games mid season where the defense can’t stop anything and Allen + the offense struggle. Its going to cost them the #1 seed again, and maybe even the division this time. May cost them a playoff spot altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: A good coach has the "so what are you going to do differently?" Conversation Hopefully had that after GB second half & Jets game, so this will be the third time. Seems like Allen is thinking "thanks for the nice Boring advice Coach". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: You're just choosing an arbitrary line between coaching and player execution. It doesn't work like that. That's what you want to believe. You have been a staunch defender of the coaches for some time now...so I think it might be you that is on the wrong side here Allen is a different player under this OC, and not in a good way. You must recognize that and have some tough conversations to fix it, or expect to receive criticism and blame. It ultimately falls on McD...whether you are willing to accept it or not. Or you can say Allen is regressing and not as good as we thought, but the evidence points to the coaching change this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: Speaking of someone who needs attention. 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: ST was trotting out there, Allen wouldn't leave. McD backed down, left the O out and let him try 4th and 2 after failing on 2nd and 2, and 3rd and 2. The results were as dumb as the decision, and ultimately was the margin of loss. Belichick would tell "the QB" to get his ass off the field. That's why Brady is a Buc now. But it worked. Coaches need to make decisions and be the boss sometimes. Edited November 13, 2022 by TheFunPolice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Please remember that Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, and coach Phil Jackson couldn't close out games against the Detroit Pistons 3 years in a row in the playoffs. Peyton Manning and the Colts lost before they won. Mike Tyson got knocked out by Buster Douglas. Tom Brady and the undefeated Patriots got their first loss at the Super Bowl by the hands of Eli Manning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, BananaB said: MVP talk is out the window. 3 games in a row multiple turnovers in the red zone. 3 game in a row 3 points in the second half. Not sure why we even looking to endzone there. Plenty time, two timeouts. We need to adjust to a new reality. Josh Allen is still incredible, but he's not the superman we thought he was. That's ok, but it will take some getting used to. His ceiling is past Mahomes, Brady, all of them, but his floor is below them. They can still win the Super Bowl, just not in juggernaut fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I still can’t get over this one. The game was WON. You’re on the 1-inch line with 40 seconds left. Dont take a safety. Don’t fumble the ball. Roll Allen out to the right with blockers in front of him. If the defense gets there, throw it away. 2nd down. Try it again. Try it again. If you break the goal line, dive forward and burn the clock out. Freaking punt it back if you absolutely must, and leave them with no time. Anything. Just do not take a safety or fumble the ball!!! Yeah it’s hindsight, but so obvious. Same as the 13 seconds. Tie em up on the line, drop guys into coverage. Don’t worry about the sidelines. Watch Kelce in the middle of the field. The Bills come out of these games looking like such morons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, BRH said: Jefferson is *****in elite. He made plays. All respect to him. That said, he did it all against a backup secondary. Facts. what was insane is that the coverage was really good for just about all of his catches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, BeastMaster said: That's what you want to believe. You have been a staunch defender of the coaches for some time now...so I think it might be you that is on the wrong side here Allen is a different player under this OC, and not in a good way. You must recognize that and have some tough conversations to fix it, or expect to receive criticism and blame. It ultimately falls on McD...whether you are willing to accept it or not. Or you can say Allen is regressing and not as good as we thought, but the evidence points to the coaching change this season If anything Josh was a better player under this OC pre bye. Something happened at the bye, and I'm not sure what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 52 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Remember when Fitz started 5 and 2 or something like that and we just slid and slid and missed the playoffs. Remember last season when we lost to Pittsburgh & Jacksonville? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, TheProcess said: They’ve been incredibly patient with bringing Tre back because I think they’ve felt they could get away with it. Today was one of those days you’d have loved to have him. No Kair and and up and down Benford. Would’ve been nice to pull Benford at times so he could calm down and get his head on straight. At some point, Tre has to get back out there. Never would’ve guessed we’d be down Tre, Hyde, and Poyer for most of this season. It’s laughable at this point. That's exactly it. If there's something physical keeping Tre from playing, then say it. But we all see the reports of him looking fine in practice, and then game day comes and he's not playing. The team thinks they can get away with it. What does Tre think? I'd like to know. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Hopefully had that after GB second half & Jets game, so this will be the third time. Seems like Allen is thinking "thanks for the nice Boring advice Coach". Cool. How did today go? The great coaches don't take that BS. There's a way to have that conversation in a tough love way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: You really think the commercials are responsible for this? No but just trying to make myself feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: what was insane is that the coverage was really good for just about all of his catches. That's what made his catches so great. But maybe a healthy Poyer, Hyde, or White knocks down one of those critical catches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: Remember last season when we lost to Pittsburgh & Jacksonville? Yep. We lost the Divisional game in the play offs away from OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, TheFunPolice said: Cool. How did today go? The great coaches don't take that BS. There's a way to have that conversation in a tough love way. Yep, but again, I don't see anything to point to to think next week will be any different. It's all talk by Allen until we see him actually fix it & okay better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Just found out that Cook and Hynes had a combined three touches in the second half LMAO don't let Dorsey back in the building. It’s asinine. Why do we have those two guys on this team? Would imagine Cook doesn’t get very motivated to get his two touches every game… and this is after we get rid of Moss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said: Please remember that Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, and coach Phil Jackson couldn't close out games against the Detroit Pistons 3 years in a row in the playoffs. Peyton Manning and the Colts lost before they won. Mike Tyson got knocked out by Buster Douglas. Tom Brady and the undefeated Patriots got their first loss at the Super Bowl by the hands of Eli Manning. True, but imo winning early (Brady) takes so much pressure off later. With Manning it was "yeah but..." And the pressure piles up and piles up each season. Once you've got a ring you're always a winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamone Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Bills safties suck. Where is Marlowe? Why trade for Him and put scrubs out like Johnson and Lewis who are so stupid they go for the int when all he had to do was punch that ball game over. Scrub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, Playoffs? said: It’s asinine. Why do we have those two guys on this team? Would imagine Cook doesn’t get very motivated to get his two touches every game… and this is after we get rid of Moss. That and they both seemed like RB's that could be involved in the passing game but half our problem the last 3 weeks is that Josh refuses to take what he's given and just check it down. As someone else posted Singletary was wide open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, BRH said: That's what made his catches so great. But maybe a healthy Poyer, Hyde, or White knocks down one of those critical catches. there were at least two where the ball was tipped by a defender (like at the line), then the CB had his arm between JJ’s arm and the ball, and JJ still caught it. I have never seen anything like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, Donuts and Doritos said: Yep, but again, I don't see anything to point to to think next week will be any different. It's all talk by Allen until we see him actually fix it & okay better. I don't think Allen is uncoachable because Daboll was able to get him to play within the system. The thing is, Allen's turnovers today for the most part weren't even forced. Just terrible decisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamone Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Cursed plain and simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: ST was trotting out there, Allen wouldn't leave. McD backed down, left the O out and let him try 4th and 2 after failing on 2nd and 2, and 3rd and 2. The results were as dumb as the decision, and ultimately was the margin of loss. Sounds more like that's on McDermott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: True, but imo winning early (Brady) takes so much pressure off later. With Manning it was "yeah but..." And the pressure piles up and piles up each season. Once you've got a ring you're always a winner Patience. You're still alive, right? You're still here posting. You're still kicking. You're good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 This version of our team will never make it to the playoffs on Allen’s legs… Beane needs to add a proven OL vet under 30 with SB experience to help the poor guy in the pocket … Dorsey needs to revisit his game planning… Less RPO turned scramble… More screens and chunk passes to set up the long ball Allen might take an honest look in the mirror… Shed his hero act… It’s not reliable week-in week-out… Bravado is not poise… Self-recrimination is not leadership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamone Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Josh allen got a undiagnosed concussion in the greenbay game when he flipped over and he has been terrible since Odell def not comming here now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Jamone said: Bills safties suck. Where is Marlowe? Why trade for Him and put scrubs out like Johnson and Lewis who are so stupid they go for the int when all he had to do was punch that ball game over. Scrub. Could we just clone Hamlin and play him at both safeties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, Buffalo Ballin said: Patience. You're still alive, right? You're still here posting. You're still kicking. You're good. It's just a game but the purpose of this board is to talk about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Believer said: This version of our team will never make it to the playoffs on Allen’s legs… Beane needs to add a proven OL vet under 30 with SB experience to help the poor guy in the pocket … Dorsey needs to revisit his game planning… Less RPO turned scramble… More screens and chunk passes to set up the long ball Allen might take an honest look in the mirror… Shed his hero act… It’s not reliable week-in week-out… Bravado is not poise… Self-recrimination is not leadership Name one available lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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