Stokes84 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Now that McCaffrey is off the market, I think it’s time to get serious about adding a RB. A lot of people think it’s about replacing or upgrading Singletary, but to me, it’s about making sure we have the horses to win a game like we lost vs. New England last year. If we lose in the playoffs because the wind is gusting 50 mph in January and we can’t pass the ball, we are going to be kicking ourselves for not bolstering this position. A couple of options that might be worth exploring: Antonio Gibson David Montgomery James Robinson I think each could be available for a mid-round pick, and imo it would be totally worth it. 2 4 8 2 3 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 A couple of options worth exploring are: 1. improving interior offensive line 2. improving interior offensive line 3. improving interior offensive line 4. improving right tackle 5. improving interior offensive line 24 17 1 4 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 What is the obsession with adding RBs when Singletary is playing perfectly fine? Is this like a Fred Jackson thing? Every year there is someone they are trying to replace him with? 4 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokes84 Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: A couple of options worth exploring are: 1. improving interior offensive line 2. improving interior offensive line 3. improving interior offensive line 4. improving right tackle 5. improving interior offensive line And if you run Singletary into the ground you are still screwed, because he’s the only competent RB on the roster. 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: What is the obsession with adding RBs when Singletary is playing perfectly fine? Is this like a Fred Jackson thing? Every year there is someone they are trying to replace him with? It’s like you didn’t read my post at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Stokes84 said: Now that McCaffrey is off the market, I think it’s time to get serious about adding a RB. A lot of people think it’s about replacing or upgrading Singletary, but to me, it’s about making sure we have the horses to win a game like we lost vs. New England last year. If we lose in the playoffs because the wind is gusting 50 mph in January and we can’t pass the ball, we are going to be kicking ourselves for not bolstering this position. A couple of options that might be worth exploring: Antonio Gibson David Montgomery James Robinson I think each could be available for a mid-round pick, and imo it would be totally worth it. Actually we COULD pass the ball, they just didn't try it until the second half. IF they would have done it all game, they win that game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Motor is a damn good back. Let's get Cook some more touches and see whats there, and mayyyybe give Duke a shot? 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 🤷♂️ you’re not getting to 50+ pages with those options 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) I kind of feel bad for Singletary. He plays his heart out for the team and actually does pretty dang good and there is just this constant talk about him being the weak link and replacing him. Depth is one thing but just constantly trying to replace him right after he gets 5 yards a carry in the most important game of the regular season, just feels bad. Edited October 21, 2022 by What a Tuel 5 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, Stokes84 said: Now that McCaffrey is off the market, I think it’s time to get serious about adding a RB. A lot of people think it’s about replacing or upgrading Singletary, but to me, it’s about making sure we have the horses to win a game like we lost vs. New England last year. If we lose in the playoffs because the wind is gusting 50 mph in January and we can’t pass the ball, we are going to be kicking ourselves for not bolstering this position. A couple of options that might be worth exploring: Antonio Gibson David Montgomery James Robinson I think each could be available for a mid-round pick, and imo it would be totally worth it. We won’t be losing in 50 mph to wind now. We already made the proper additions….on defense. No one will score on us in that kind of weather 2 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: I kind of feel bad for Singletary. He plays his heart out for the team and actually does pretty dang good and there is just this constant talk about him being the weak link and replacing him. Depth is one thing but just constantly trying to replace him right after he gets 5 yards a carry in the most important game of the regular season, just feels bad. Same. He’s sufficient. If we want to bolster the run game, improve the OL 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 If Singletary had to miss some games who would be comfortable with Cook and Moss? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 It’s a forest through the trees thing on TSW, when it comes to RBs, especially Singletary, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, Stokes84 said: Now that McCaffrey is off the market, I think it’s time to get serious about adding a RB. A lot of people think it’s about replacing or upgrading Singletary, but to me, it’s about making sure we have the horses to win a game like we lost vs. New England last year. If we lose in the playoffs because the wind is gusting 50 mph in January and we can’t pass the ball, we are going to be kicking ourselves for not bolstering this position. A couple of options that might be worth exploring: Antonio Gibson David Montgomery James Robinson I think each could be available for a mid-round pick, and imo it would be totally worth it. I'm with Jauronomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Still have Moss, Cook, Duke. Each would cost a lot less than McCaffrey. Can throw in Akers too, even if his stats have been traditionally pretty terrible. Gibson - Fast which is a plus. The minus is his YPC has gone down every year since his rookie year and he got benched for a rookie the first chance they got. Something amiss here. Montgomery - Sure handed, sort of boring. Ran a 4.63 so... are we just trading for a Zack Moss who gets more touches? Robinson - Also a 4.6+ guy. Sure handed. I'm not sure he's on the block though. The jag's arent out of the division race by any means, hell there the only team in that division that has scored more points than they've given up. Had the Achilles injury a year ago so he's probably a good fit for a timeshare. Akers - Meh, guy doesn't really pop to me. 2.6 yards per carry last year in the playoffs? Yuck. 3 minutes ago, bmur66 said: If Singletary had to miss some games who would be comfortable with Cook and Moss? I would be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokes84 Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 I’ve gotta say, you guys suck at reading. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, bmur66 said: If Singletary had to miss some games who would be comfortable with Cook and Moss? I’d be fine with it, we don’t even know what cook can do and Moss would actually probably be better if he got 20 carries in a game. People act like these guys are just incapable of production or need to be out of the league they’re so bad. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Stokes84 said: Now that McCaffrey is off the market, I think it’s time to get serious about adding a RB. A lot of people think it’s about replacing or upgrading Singletary, but to me, it’s about making sure we have the horses to win a game like we lost vs. New England last year. If we lose in the playoffs because the wind is gusting 50 mph in January and we can’t pass the ball, we are going to be kicking ourselves for not bolstering this position. A couple of options that might be worth exploring: Antonio Gibson David Montgomery James Robinson I think each could be available for a mid-round pick, and imo it would be totally worth it. I was thinking maybe Josh Jacobs from the Raiders if he could be had for maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder Edited October 21, 2022 by Buffalo03 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Our RB stable is going to be our RB stable for the year, unless injuries happen and they call up Duke Johnson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: I’d be fine with it, we don’t even know what cook can do and Moss would actually probably be better if he got 20 carries in a game. People act like these guys are just incapable of production or need to be out of the league they’re so bad. Moss is bad, Cook is an unknown. I'm all for seeing what cook has but I'm about done with Moss 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Stokes84 said: I’ve gotta say, you guys suck at reading. To be fair, while the question of whether other RB options are worth trading for is valid, the conclusion you draw in your opening statement leaves a lot to be desired. Just because McCaffrey is now off the market, does not mean that other RB options out there are now worth it for us. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, Stokes84 said: And if you run Singletary into the ground you are still screwed, because he’s the only competent RB on the roster. He barely gets double digit carries per game. Hes hardly being run into the ground. This is a pass first offense with a pass first offensive line. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Stokes84 said: I’ve gotta say, you guys suck at reading. I guess you need to clarify because to me at least "making sure we have the horses" means upgrading the position. If you are talking depth then sure it wouldn't hurt to grab an upgrade over Moss if there is one available, but it sounds more like you don't think Singletary has the horses to be the guy when the wind is blowing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stokes84 said: I’ve gotta say, you guys suck at reading. People wanna hear what they wanna hear. Our RB depth stinks. If Singletary goes down, we are stuck with Moss, Cook, who isn't nor should be expected, to be a full time RB this quickly, and Duke Johnson who hasn't been relevant in 3 years. This team could use another back that can take some of the work off of Singletary so he's fresh down the stretch. I vouched for Gibson because we can probably get him for a 5. He comes from a dumpster fire of an organization and needs a fresh start. I was met with Singletary is better and what a dumb idea, when the idea was for him to come in and be our Running back 2, not to be our workhorse back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Buffalo03 said: Moss is bad, Cook is an unknown. I'm all for seeing what cook has but I'm about done with Moss Well sadly for you I don’t think they’re throwing the towel in on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Singletary is just fine. He is not running behind a strong OL (that is the real problem) and besides the Bills offense centers around Allen throwing the ball all over the field anyway. I think Beane will address the OL this offseason like he did the DL last offseason no matter how the season plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokes84 Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, What a Tuel said: I guess you need to clarify because to me at least "making sure we have the horses" means upgrading the position. If you are talking depth then sure it wouldn't hurt to grab an upgrade over Moss if there is one available, but it sounds more like you don't think Singletary has the horses to be the guy when the wind is blowing. I literally say it’s not about upgrading Singletary in the post. Not sure how to make it more clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, Stokes84 said: And if you run Singletary into the ground you are still screwed, because he’s the only competent RB on the roster. Seems unlikely he, or any RB on the Bills, as long as JA is here, breaks down from overuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Rc2catch said: Well sadly for you I don’t think they’re throwing the towel in on him. No one is quitting on Cook. He needs to do more with his chances and earn the trust of his coaches and teammates. Its a long season. He will get more chances and I am confident that he won't let his next opportunity slip through his fingers. Getting Cook and Shakir going before January should be a priority for this offense in my opinion. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Rc2catch said: Well sadly for you I don’t think they’re throwing the towel in on him. Lol. The way you are about a crap running back. "Well guess what, sadly for you, they are gonna keep that crappy running back I like. How do you like that?" lol. You're funny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Can we please stop this discussion. Motor averages damn near 5 ypc. We are simply a pass first offense. Edited October 21, 2022 by ProcessYaDigg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 27 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: A couple of options worth exploring are: 1. improving interior offensive line 2. improving interior offensive line 3. improving interior offensive line 4. improving right tackle 5. improving interior offensive line This is ultimately what needs to happen but I don't think this can be done in-season. No one is trading a cheap OL who is also a good player. They could get an upgrade to Moss for basically nothing though. I also think adding a vet S could be in the cards. Hamlin has been ok but I'm not sure if they are comfortable with Lewis as the 4th S. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: A couple of options worth exploring are: 1. improving interior offensive line 2. improving interior offensive line 3. improving interior offensive line 4. improving right tackle 5. improving interior offensive line 15 minutes ago, NewEra said: Same. He’s sufficient. If we want to bolster the run game, improve the OL 12 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I'm with Jauronomo In consideration of the fact that the OP named names, you guys got any OL names in mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Seems unlikely he, or any RB on the Bills, as long as JA is here, breaks down from overuse. He's playing over 80% of the snaps and still has to pass block guys who are way bigger than he is for Allen to pass or run routes out of the backfield every play. Its not like Singletary stands there going well I guess i'm not running this time so I can just stand here on this play and rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Lol. The way you are about a crap running back. "Well guess what, sadly for you, they are gonna keep that crappy running back I like. How do you like that?" lol. You're funny I don’t hate on players.. Weird concept to cheer for players on your team I know. Definitely funny. 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: No one is quitting on Cook. He needs to do more with his chances and earn the trust of his coaches and teammates. Its a long season. He will get more chances and I am confident that he won't let his next opportunity slip through his fingers. Getting Cook and Shakir going before January should be a priority for this offense in my opinion. That was about Moss. I think Cook would do just fine if he needed to step up and take on more work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Sierra Foothills said: In consideration of the fact that the OP named names, you guys got any OL names in mind? None. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone is looking to move capable lineman in a league filled with bad line play. If we are talking about efficient use of our resources, I don't think buying a new furnace to heat the house makes sense when theres a Saffold sized hole in the roof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Its not like Singletary stands there going well I guess i'm not running this time so I can just stand here on this play and rest. Yeah, that’s what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: In consideration of the fact that the OP named names, you guys got any OL names in mind? There’s hundreds of Pro Bowl OG’s being dangled on the trading block. All bad teams have good OG’s. It is known 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I don’t hate on players.. Weird concept to cheer for players on your team I know. Definitely funny. That was about Moss. I think Cook would do just fine if he needed to step up and take on more work It's ok to hate on players that aren't good at what they do. But if we could get a an improvement over Moss, why not take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: None. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone is looking to move capable lineman in a league filled with bad line play. If we are talking about efficient use of our resources, I don't think buying a new furnace to heat the house makes sense when theres a Saffold sized hole in the roof. This makes no sense. If we can’t upgrade the IOL then it’s not like we have a better option. I’d rather have a furnace than nothing lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: In consideration of the fact that the OP named names, you guys got any OL names in mind? it’s his thread. I didn’t know I had to do homework in order to post in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 how about elevating duke johnson if needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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