Finding an alternative to Case Keenum

[eball]

  On 10/9/2022 at 8:26 PM, Einstein said:

Great win by the Bills! Seeing Keenum again brought about some reminders of his play.

 

This is the second blowout where Josh Allen moved the offense at will, then Keenum comes in and looks totally lost. Can barely get a first down. Doesn’t score at all.

 

Here are the Keenum led drives:

 

Punt

Punt

Punt

Punt

End of game

 

Barkley at least could move the offense a little bit after coming in from 2018 to 2020. Even won a game starting. No, he wasn’t great - i’m not making that argument.

 

Here is my question: Does anyone have confidence that Keenum can win a game if he ever needed to? 

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Dude, are you for real?  Every thread you start is a “should we be worried about X” discussion.

 

How about you just chill out and enjoy this team.  Case Keenum is fine in his backup role.

 

[todd]

  On 10/9/2022 at 8:41 PM, Simon said:

 

I'm not down with the whole stifling unpopular speech thing. 🤷‍♂️

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Yes, and the "ignore the buffoon" button works great. 

[teef]

people were upset when barkely was the back up too.  i get the conversation, but what can a team do to improve qb2 at this point in the season.  fitz coming out of retirement is obviously not a option, so what would be  one.    if the op has a legit option, i'd love to hear it.

[Royale with Cheese]

Anyone worried about Elam?

[The Red King]

We need a better backup, yes.  But it's not something we're going to address this season.

[damj]

  On 10/9/2022 at 8:26 PM, Einstein said:

Great win by the Bills! Seeing Keenum again brought about some reminders of his play.

 

This is the second blowout where Josh Allen moved the offense at will, then Keenum comes in and looks totally lost. Can barely get a first down. Doesn’t score at all.

 

Here are the Keenum led drives:

 

Punt

Punt

Punt

Punt

End of game

 

Barkley at least could move the offense a little bit after coming in from 2018 to 2020. Even won a game starting. No, he wasn’t great - i’m not making that argument.

 

Here is my question: Does anyone have confidence that Keenum can win a game if he ever needed to? 

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While we're at it. Also, I was at the game and I watched the sidelines very carefully.

 

I think we need to upgrade the water boys. They already cost us the Dolphins games and their lack of high quality H20 yesterday cost Josh at least 2 more TDs yesterday.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

We need a TBD concussion protocol.  Einstein clearly has some sort of brain injury and should be put on IR for 4 games.  

[HOUSE]

Why in the world was Ken Dorsey throwing the ball in the first place, the game was already over?

I don't understand the logic.

[Thurman#1]

  On 10/9/2022 at 8:29 PM, Rochesterfan said:

Ahh - look who had a thought - must be time for a thread.

 

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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Well, half a thought, anyway.

[Jauronimo]

  On 10/10/2022 at 12:50 PM, Royale with Cheese said:

Anyone worried about Elam?

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He got picked on yesterday but nice INT.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Go back to the Bears.
 

When they up on Justin Fields he can come to Buffalo and study with Allen.

[without a drought]

  On 10/10/2022 at 3:10 AM, NJKBillsfan said:

Honestly Barkley should be the number 2.

 

He is lot better than Keenum. 

 

 

 

 

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Based on what?

 

Did someone hack into the NFL stats database? It looks like he's been kind of terrible, at least according to his stats.

 

Can't find any info to back this up.

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

  On 10/10/2022 at 1:49 PM, Jauronimo said:

He got picked on yesterday but nice INT.

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He gave up shorter yardage plays early...if I remember correctly.  Sewed it up later.  

[without a drought]

  On 10/10/2022 at 12:50 PM, Royale with Cheese said:

Anyone worried about Elam?

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No. I was just thinking about having another cup of coffee.

 

I'll keep you posted if I start worrying about him.

[Einstein]

  On 10/10/2022 at 4:14 AM, smuvtalker said:

Count me among those who do not have a problem with your topic.  I agree with Meatloaf in the sense that yes, we blew Pittsburgh out of the building, but I also would've liked to have seen more out of Keenum. 

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Thank you.

  On 10/10/2022 at 12:50 PM, Royale with Cheese said:

Anyone worried about Elam?

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A bit, yes. He was picked on yesterday by a QB in his 1st ever start. Doesn’t mean he won’t get better, but do have a healthy dose of concern for him. 

[Royale with Cheese]

  On 10/10/2022 at 2:11 PM, Einstein said:

 

Thank you.

 

A bit, yes. He was picked on yesterday by a QB in his 1st ever start. Doesn’t mean he won’t get better, but do have a healthy dose of concern for him. 

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It doesn't matter when he plays well with you.  He's played lights out the last few weeks but has a few completed passes on him yesterday....now you're going to bring up you're worried.

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[WotAGuy]

  On 10/10/2022 at 1:42 PM, HOUSE said:

Why in the world was Ken Dorsey throwing the ball in the first place, the game was already over?

I don't understand the logic.

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I was surprised at this too; I just figured they were trying to get him some good work rather than just handing off three times and punting. It looks like he needs the reps. 

[Einstein]

  On 10/10/2022 at 2:15 PM, WotAGuy said:

I was surprised at this too; I just figured they were trying to get him some good work rather than just handing off three times and punting. It looks like he needs the reps. 

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I think it was smart. You want your backup QB to be ready. Best way to get him ready is live action with the offense when the game is out of hand. Not sure handing the ball off a bunch would help get him acclimated to the offense.

[ColoradoBills]

  On 10/10/2022 at 2:16 PM, Einstein said:

 

I think it was smart. You want your backup QB to be ready. Best way to get him ready is live action with the offense when the game is out of hand. Not sure handing the ball off a bunch would help get him acclimated to the offense.

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For next season I would like to see a younger backup that still has a chance to develop enough to stick around for a few years.

Someone like Kyle Allen or a Drew Lock who have played some and can get you .500 with the Bills O.

[smuvtalker]

  On 10/10/2022 at 2:11 PM, Einstein said:

 

Thank you.

 

A bit, yes. He was picked on yesterday by a QB in his 1st ever start. Doesn’t mean he won’t get better, but do have a healthy dose of concern for him. 

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No concern whatsoever for Elam.  The kid is a gamer all day, and let's not overlook the fact that he's got a good head on his shoulders.  A first round pick, who gets bumped for a sixth rounder to start the season despite a solid training camp.  Does he gripe and moan, no?  He puts his head down, keeps working, and plays darn well when his number is called.  Yeah he was picked on yesterday, but I didn't think he was abysmal by any stretch.  Not only that, he snagged his first pick on a pass that he was supposed to intercept.  Let's not forget Tre had a few bumps and bruises his rookie year as well.  I anticipate nothing but great things ahead for number 24.