Soft on crime Democrats - the system is the problem?

[Big Blitz]

Watch this like it's a Chappelle Show skit:

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[Chef Jim]

14 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

WTF is a Trump city/state??  

[B-Man]

 

 

A growing wave of targeted police killings

JAZZ SHAW 

 

 

 

In Bristol, Connecticut this week, two police officers were murdered and a third was wounded by gunfire in what was clearly an ambush after a phony 911 call was received. Thankfully, the wounded police officer, rather than retreating, returned fire and killed the attacker, saving the public the bother of a trial. This would obviously be grim news under any circumstances, but the attack does not appear to be just some random, one-off act by a maniac.

 

Police are being attacked around the United States, often fatally, in numbers that haven’t been seen in many years. According to a report this week from the Associated Press, the number of American police officers being killed in the line of duty is rising at rates that almost certainly can’t be coincidental. Police deaths of this type in 2022 are already up by 14% over last year and by a staggering 45% over the same period in 2020, when riots and violence were filling the streets all through the summer. A deadly and disturbing pattern seems to be emerging, just as police officers have been quitting or taking early retirement in droves.

 

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Nobody is suggesting that this is some sort of murderous scheme that’s been plotted out at the national level and was centrally organized. But the pattern that’s been emerging is impossible to ignore. So what is driving this homicidal tide against the thin blue line? We simply can’t ignore the societal shift that has taken place in certain segments of American society.

 

Politicians who continually blame the police for society’s ills and describe them as unrepentant racists and corrupt actors have obviously fed into this toxic mix. Criminal justice “reform” efforts that place more value on the lives of criminals than victims clearly seem to have emboldened the bad actors in society. When cable news talking heads spend all of their time bellowing about how “evil” or “dangerous” the police are, some of those who are receptive to such a message will inevitably act upon it. And this applies to all aspects of governance. Look no further than the demonization of the conservative Supreme Court justices which was kept at a fever pitch for weeks until someone with a gun showed up at Brett Kavanaugh’s house hoping to assassinate him.

 

So what, if anything, can be done about it? First of all, we should keep in mind that when you lower the cost of breaking any laws, you get more of that sort of crime. (Look no further than the years of massive looting in California following the state’s decriminalization efforts.) The same applies to the murder of law enforcement officers.

 

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/10/16/a-growing-wave-of-targeted-police-killings-n503631

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

Dem Pollster Stanley Greenberg: How Democrats Mishandled Crime:

 

The most effective issue for Republicans in this midterm is a result of Democratic elites failing to understand what their diverse base of working-class voters wants.

 

https://prospect.org/politics/how-democrats-mishandled-crime/

 

 

Also, the diverse base of working-class voters is now pretty much the GOP base, not the Democrats’ base.

Democrats are the party of billionaires, woke white gentry class people, and, decreasingly, their poverty-stricken client groups.

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

Please, rural America is awash in pill crimes, poverty crime and domestic abuse 

 

Here are the 10 states with the higest rates of domestic violence:

Oklahoma - 49.10%

Iowa - 45.30%

Kentucky - 45.30%

North Carolina - 43.90%

Nevada - 43.80%

Alaska - 43.30%

Arizona - 42.60%

Washington - 42.60%

Idaho - 42.50%

Missouri - 41.70%

 

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/domestic-violence-by-state

[B-Man]

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

 

[BillStime]

Yeah, Dems are soft on crime - nice talking point SIMP.

 

Meanwhile, not even the DEATH PENALTY in RED STATES can deter crime while RED STATES have the HIGHEST rates of violent crime over blue states.

 

Oh, and I wonder why...

 

 

Idiots

 

[Doc]

Defund the police, cashless bail and releasing criminal back on the streets early have worked wonder for Dems, eh?

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

Defund the police, cashless bail and releasing criminal back on the streets early have worked wonder for Dems, eh?

Just like your death penalty

[BillsFanNC]

 

 

[LeviF]

On 11/4/2022 at 7:31 PM, BillStime said:

Just like your death penalty

If Dems hadn’t shackled the death penalty to the point where it takes a decade to carry out then you might have a point. 
 

Effective and expanded death penalty and mass incarceration would solve our crime problems inside of a year. 

[BillStime]

10 hours ago, LeviF said:

If Dems hadn’t shackled the death penalty to the point where it takes a decade to carry out then you might have a point. 
 

Effective and expanded death penalty and mass incarceration would solve our crime problems inside of a year. 

Always gotta blame someone even when you’re failing.
 

Dems have nothing to do with the death penalty.

 

 

 

 

[LeviF]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

Always gotta blame someone even when you’re failing.
 

Dems have nothing to do with the death penalty.

 

 

 

 

…Except outlawing it 😂😂😂

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

HYPOCRITES. . . . . . . . 

 

 

 

 

 

Tennessee Three apparently don’t care enough about kids to vote for bill to increase school safety

 

 

 

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/04/12/tennessee-three-apparently-dont-care-enough-about-kids-to-vote-for-bill-to-increase-school-safety/

[LeviF]

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/st-louis-man-gets-life-for-fatal-car-crash-some-say-race-played-a-factor-39834514

 

An exemplar of why you should ignore any arguments from progressives on reducing criminal penalties that reference "deterrence." 

 

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On July 21, 2020, Deandre Carter was driving a stolen Mitsubishi Outlander SUV at a high rate of speed westbound on Page Boulevard when he used the shoulder to pass another car. He clipped the side of that car in the process of passing it, then swerved onto the other side of the road and into oncoming traffic.

Carter collided head-on with a Nissan Altima being driven by Paige Walker, 28, with her mother, Shirley Brown-Walker, riding in the passenger seat. Walker was killed in the crash, while Brown-Walker was injured but survived.

 

Once convicted of a crime involving egregiously gross disregard for human life and the commission of multiple felonies, surely you, the normal person, would be contrite and understand that you had deeply violated the social contract, no?

 

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"I just got a life sentence for a car accident?" Carter said after sentencing.
 

 

If he can't even wrap his head around a basic understanding of what he's done, what "deterrent" do you think will work on him?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

42 minutes ago, LeviF said:

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/st-louis-man-gets-life-for-fatal-car-crash-some-say-race-played-a-factor-39834514

 

An exemplar of why you should ignore any arguments from progressives on reducing criminal penalties that reference "deterrence." 

 

 

Once convicted of a crime involving egregiously gross disregard for human life and the commission of multiple felonies, surely you, the normal person, would be contrite and understand that you had deeply violated the social contract, no?

 

 

If he can't even wrap his head around a basic understanding of what he's done, what "deterrent" do you think will work on him?

I’m positive he stole that car and drove recklessly because mayor Pete’s confirmed racist highways.  

[Unforgiven]

On 9/29/2022 at 11:59 AM, Big Blitz said:

 

where do you think the dimwit lefty trolls only this site have learned to lie and propagandize...

 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, LeviF said:

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/st-louis-man-gets-life-for-fatal-car-crash-some-say-race-played-a-factor-39834514

 

An exemplar of why you should ignore any arguments from progressives on reducing criminal penalties that reference "deterrence." 

 

 

Once convicted of a crime involving egregiously gross disregard for human life and the commission of multiple felonies, surely you, the normal person, would be contrite and understand that you had deeply violated the social contract, no?

 

 

If he can't even wrap his head around a basic understanding of what he's done, what "deterrent" do you think will work on him?

 

Sad.  Just sad.

[T master]

On 9/29/2022 at 10:59 AM, Big Blitz said:

 

 

It would be really nice if the audio would play through out the video ...

[B-Man]

 

 

'Props': Dems' Callousness Towards NYC Crime Victims Was on Full Display

by Julio Rosas

 

Some of the Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee insulted and patronized the witnesses who testified in Monday's hearing about violent crime in New York City by calling them "props" or by disregarding their criticisms of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.Rep.

 

Hank Johnson (D-GA) said the families of victims who were testifying were props for the Republican party. "The Republican witnesses who have used their time to District Attorney Bragg have served as props in a MAGA Broadway production," Johnson said, which caused an uproar from the audience.

 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2023/04/17/democrats-callousness-towards-nyc-crime-victims-were-on-full-display-n2622045

[All_Pro_Bills]

23 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

'Props': Dems' Callousness Towards NYC Crime Victims Was on Full Display

by Julio Rosas

 

Some of the Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee insulted and patronized the witnesses who testified in Monday's hearing about violent crime in New York City by calling them "props" or by disregarding their criticisms of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.Rep.

 

Hank Johnson (D-GA) said the families of victims who were testifying were props for the Republican party. "The Republican witnesses who have used their time to District Attorney Bragg have served as props in a MAGA Broadway production," Johnson said, which caused an uproar from the audience.

 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2023/04/17/democrats-callousness-towards-nyc-crime-victims-were-on-full-display-n2622045

Maybe Hank needs to be educated on the facts by experiencing a subway ride without his security detail at 2 AM through the South Bronx.

[Doc]

Shocker, from a tool like Hank.

[B-Man]

 

 

HEY !!

 

The mayor got it right.

 

 

[aristocrat]

 

[Doc]

It's a sad situation anyway you look at it.

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

 

 

"I'm going to become a vigilante and execute someone on the subway because they're having a mental health crisis" is some solution, but not unexpected from you. 

1 hour ago, Doc said:

It's a sad situation anyway you look at it.

 

Poor guy needed serious help. I'm personally for mandatory mental health stays. 

 

Executing another human being when they weren't being attacked is just not right. 

[aristocrat]

17 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

"I'm going to become a vigilante and execute someone on the subway because they're having a mental health crisis" is some solution, but not unexpected from you. 

 

Poor guy needed serious help. I'm personally for mandatory mental health stays. 

 

Executing another human being when they weren't being attacked is just not right. 

 

how do you know he was having a mental health crisis? it's just a narrative right now that i've seen no basis in fact. as of right now it's a guy arrested 40 times for things including assault along with having a warrant out for an assault. what if he was just an #######? 

[Roundybout]

18 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

how do you know he was having a mental health crisis? it's just a narrative right now that i've seen no basis in fact. as of right now it's a guy arrested 40 times for things including assault along with having a warrant out for an assault. what if he was just an #######? 

 

That does not give you the right to take his life. End of discussion. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

HEY !!

 

The mayor got it right.

 

 

Ruh Roh… lock the doors,  board up the windows and if you car is flammable get it out of town…. There is About to be a whole bunch of insurrecti….  Oh liberals.. I mean peaceful protects. 

[aristocrat]

3 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

That does not give you the right to take his life. End of discussion. 

 

Self defense does. The guy was going around attacking people and eventually ***** around with the wrong guy.  Do enough bad ***** and something bad will happen to you. People are on edge getting attacked often on the subway and other places.  These are the consequences. Do you stand there getting attacked by someone having a crisis and accept death or serious injury?  I mean 40 arrests how was this guy still on the street?  At a certain point he should be give a long sentence as it's clear he can't function in society. 

[B-Man]

 

 

Well, they are less 'soft' as of this afternoon.

 

 

 

BREAKING: Kim Gardner Has Resigned.

 

 

Earlier on Thursday, we wrote about St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner seeking a motion to dismiss the an attempt to remove her from office. The process began on February 23 when the Missouri Attorney General’s office filed the quo warranto—which as my colleague Susie Moore explained, stemmed from “serious allegations of malfeasance on the part of her office”—after a request that Gardner resign immediately.

 

 

Then in late April, a St. Louis judge lowered the boom on Gardner, writing that her office was a “rudderless ship of chaos”:

 

[St. Louis Circuit Judge Michael Noble]….held that there was sufficient evidence to find that Gardner and Assistant Circuit Attorney Chris Desilets had acted with “intentional disregard for the judicial process” and announced that he would be appointing a special prosecutor to pursue a case of “indirect criminal contempt” against them both.

 

Garner’s filing failed on Thursday, however. But now, she has resigned.

 

https://redstate.com/beccalower/2023/05/04/breaking-kim-gardner-has-resigned-n741259

 

 

 

As Tom Cotton wrote in 2021: Recall, Remove and Replace Every Last Soros Prosecutor.

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/12/20/recall_remove__replace_every_last_soros_prosecutor_146914.html

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

Poor guy needed serious help. I'm personally for mandatory mental health stays. 

 

Executing another human being when they weren't being attacked is just not right. 

 

As aristocrat said, the guy was a menace to society and wasn't being dealt with properly.  This was likely inevitable and again it's a sad situation all around.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

https://nypost.com/2023/05/04/san-francisco-deploys-national-guard-to-fight-drugs-cartel/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app
 

[TheBrownBear]

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

 

That does not give you the right to take his life. End of discussion. 

I doubt that the Marine intended to take the guy's life. He asked bystanders to call 911 almost immediately after taking the guy down.  I'm sure he thought he was preventing a potentially dangerous man (which turned out to be true based on his recent prior assaults) from hurting someone.  Also, we need to wait for an autopsy to determine the cause of death.  If after a full and proper investigation is conducted, the police determine that this Marine was in the wrong and unlawfully killed Neely, then he should and will be brought to justice.

 

And I agree with everyone else that it is a sad story all around.  This Neely person was obviously sick and needed help.  If cities were allowed to arrest the unhoused and get them the treatment and resources they needed, this vigilante wouldn't have felt the need to chokehold this sick man in the first place.

Edited May 5, 2023 by TheBrownBear

[LeviF]

People like Neely would murder you for the 40 bucks in your wallet after being cut a felony appearance ticket for the 35th time with 30 open warrants for no showing his court date and then tell the cops he “didn’t mean to.”

 

Subways are no go zones for about 35% of NYC residents. Unfortunate that this marine didn’t understand this before deleting a magic American and getting the inevitable witch trial from the local Soros DA. 

[aristocrat]

 

[LeviF]

59 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

As aristocrat said, the guy was a menace to society and wasn't being dealt with properly.  This was likely inevitable and again it's a sad situation all around.

In the functioning moderate liberal world, people like Neely would be dealt with by trained professionals. 
 

But leftists got mad at the trained professionals so here we are. 

Edited May 5, 2023 by LeviF