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Judge Sue Robinson recommends 6 game suspension for Watson; NFL will appeal


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2 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:


 

They should, but I doubt the Cleveland FO cares.  They knew what this could entail and not only did the deal, but then because Watson wanted nothing to do with Cleveland - they chose to give him the money.

 

This is the 2nd biggest factor as to why this will be a disaster.  

 

Watson was given a list of teams to choose from - and there were 3.  He chose the most guaranteed money. 

 

Not where he really wants to be (Miami). 

 

His options pre charges, was probably half the league.

 

So long as Burrow and a healthy Lamar are in that division, I hope the Browns never see the playoffs as long as Watson is there.  

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7 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

This is the 2nd biggest factor as to why this will be a disaster.  

 

Watson was given a list of teams to choose from - and there were 3.  He chose the most guaranteed money. 

 

Not where he really wants to be (Miami). 

 

His options pre charges, was probably half the league.

 

So long as Burrow and a healthy Lamar are in that division, I hope the Browns never see the playoffs as long as Watson is there.  


 

I totally agree - he had ton of options pre charge.

 

Post charge - with the three teams really competing for him - he eliminated Cleveland as an option.  He did not want to play in the cold.  He met with them, but immediately eliminated them as an option and refused a second meeting - he did not want to go to Cleveland at all.

 

It was down to 2 teams in Atl and NO - when Cleveland comes back basically nearly doubling his salary and guaranteed it even with the suspension coming.  
 

It was total desperation from Cleveland to get a QB after he rejected them and it was a money grab by Watson with protections.  I really do not think (and really hope it does not) it will work out - that is not where Watson wanted to go and I do not think he is a good fit for the city.  
 

 

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18 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Because the team and his legal team are making him 

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If it's "The World vs. sex predators" then sorry Cleveland but I'm with the world on this one. 

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Appeals officer Peter Harvey continues to delay his decision in the Deshaun Watson case, apparently not because he’s undecided or procrastinating. Harvey is believed to be waiting to see whether the league and Watson can work out a deal.

The possibility of settlement remains viable, we’re told. Currently, it could go either way. As such things usually do. But this one truly falls into the toss-up category. We’ll wait and see if the NFL and Watson can find a middle ground.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/settlement-remains-very-possible-in-deshaun-watson-s-disciplinary-case/ar-AA10GVdV?cvid=764a4370654446aead67b7d0a1ce4a68

 

 

I keep hoping on the daily there will be some sort of resolution. as of now ZIPPO

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2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

If it ends up a full year for Watson, his game has to suffer.

He won't have rust to knock off in 2023, it will be corrosion.

At the beginning of the 2023 season, he will be 32 months removed from competitive football.  He won’t be the same…probably ever

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On 8/14/2022 at 3:27 PM, hemma said:

Did they make the bonus contingent on being eligible in 2022?

Haslam is an idiot, so I’d be surprised if he folded that into the negotiations.

 

The entire contract was crafted so he would not be penalized even if suspended for the year.

He previously rejected previous attempts by Browns to sign him after his one year paid vacation and NFC South teams were negotiating for his services and then Browns threw in the fully guararenteed contract.

 

Fully guarenteed contracts have been used before but not for a player in hot water or for so large of a contract.

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1 minute ago, Bangarang said:

Anything less than being suspended the entire year will be a joke. 

The more I hear about this being settled the more I feel like that's what's going to happen.

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9 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

The more I hear about this being settled the more I feel like that's what's going to happen.

My best guess is that Watson will settle on a year and probably a 10 million dollar fine or something in that range.  The NFL definitely wants the full year for optics/PR purposes and also wants to make sure that the structuring of that contract gets punished a bit as well.  At this point, Watson probably just wants this behind him and seeing the kind of reception he received on Friday night, probably realizes it's in his best interest to allow this to simmer down over the next year.

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6 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

My best guess is that Watson will settle on a year and probably a 10 million dollar fine or something in that range.  The NFL definitely wants the full year for optics/PR purposes and also wants to make sure that the structuring of that contract gets punished a bit as well.  At this point, Watson probably just wants this behind him and seeing the kind of reception he received on Friday night, probably realizes it's in his best interest to allow this to simmer down over the next year.

 

A ten million dollar fine on a 250 million dollar contract, what a punishment... That'd be a joke even with a year suspension.  I realize that his salary and what he did are only tangentially connected, but this whole thing feels like such a miscarriage and failure of all the justice and ethics systems involved. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

 

A ten million dollar fine on a 250 million dollar contract, what a punishment... That'd be a joke even with a year suspension.  I realize that his salary and what he did are only tangentially connected, but this whole thing feels like such a miscarriage and failure of all the justice and ethics systems involved. 

 

 

I agree.  Not what I'd like to see happen, just a best guess based on where we started from (6 games) and Watson's/NFLPA's assertions that virtually zero punishment should be meted out.  In that sense, it can be argued that a year ban and comparatively nominal fine are a "win" for Goodell and the NFL in the court of public opinion.

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36 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

 

A ten million dollar fine on a 250 million dollar contract, what a punishment... That'd be a joke even with a year suspension.  I realize that his salary and what he did are only tangentially connected, but this whole thing feels like such a miscarriage and failure of all the justice and ethics systems involved. 

 

 

I agree that it’s a drop in the bucket, but from my understanding all of the fines go to NFL charities. $10 million directly to NFL charities would be a boon for the less fortunate. Especially in this day and age. Inflation is a killer.

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1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

Anything less than being suspended the entire year will be a joke. 

 

I don't understand why the NFL would open itself up to the criticism of anything less than a year. They are off the hook with a year and look like the rational people coming in and ensuring a proper punishment is assigned. I thought this was their master plan with an arbitrator.  Why even negotiate a "deal"?

 

If they turn it into 8 or 12 games or worse just a fine (that goes to charity) then they will be crucified again.

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1 hour ago, What a Tuel said:

 

I don't understand why the NFL would open itself up to the criticism of anything less than a year. They are off the hook with a year and look like the rational people coming in and ensuring a proper punishment is assigned. I thought this was their master plan with an arbitrator.  Why even negotiate a "deal"?

 

If they turn it into 8 or 12 games or worse just a fine (that goes to charity) then they will be crucified again.


Just guessing here, but it’s possible the suspension length aspect is settled (and I think the league is not budging on the year long duration of it, because, as you say, the NFL will be crucified all over again if it’s shortened to 8/10/12.)

 

What could still be at issue and what the two sides are still hammering out are things like the fine amount and mandatory counseling, things like that.

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