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From Military Times:

 

"The Promise to Address Comprehensive Toxics Act — better known as the PACT Act — had been up for a procedural vote in the chamber with an expectation of final passage before the end of the week.

 

The measure is the culmination of years of work by advocates to improve health care and benefits for veterans suffering injuries from burn pit smoke, Agent Orange spraying and other military contaminant exposure. It has been widely celebrated as a potential landmark legislative victory in veterans policy.

 

The measure passed the Senate by a comfortable 84-14 vote in early June, and by a 342-88 vote in the House two weeks ago with significant Republican support.

But on Wednesday, after technical corrections sent the measure back to the Senate for another procedural vote, 41 Senate Republicans blocked the measure, leaving its future uncertain."

 

The bill was good enough for the GOP last month, but suddenly providing benefits to our veteran's is no longer acceptable.

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Just now, Wacka said:

Most likely because of the pork the dems jammed dinto it.

 

 

It was essentially the same bill they already approved. It was only up for another vote for technical corrections.

 

They most likely changed their mind because the Dems are pursuing an unrelated reconciliation bill.

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Pretty crappy, and I'm betting it's going to get pushed through in short order.  Its gross when politicians play politics with people's lives, I remember something similar with an early covid relief bill.  

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big problem we have in a 2 party system is one side is always completely oppositional even to rational things. remember dems blocking police reform bill in the middle of blm. i dont even think it was all that rational but dems def did not want rep addressing that issue before a election. its so dysfunctional i can see rep blocking anything that could be considered a win so dems have nothing to go into elections on. happens all the time to the detriment of US citizens

 

if its true and it was purely a bill to block veteran help then at the very least the slugs blocking it get the vote played repeatedly in any election in the future.

 

sanders wants provisions in the microchip bill on who gets subsidies to keeps jobs in the US and maintains union integrity if it exists? manchin has to force subsidies in the clean energy for nuclear? this all is non partisan stuff we all should agree on yet sanders was denied and luckily nuclear was a sticking point!? why!!? they literally go out of their way to be as corrupt as possable.

 

 

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On 7/28/2022 at 2:07 PM, Gene Frenkle said:

The GOP treats veterans like it treats children.

 

Republicans only care until you actually exist.

You mean like taking them out to see half naked transvestites? 

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On 7/28/2022 at 2:07 PM, Gene Frenkle said:

The GOP treats veterans like it treats children.

 

Republicans only care until you actually exist.

The GOP flipped on this as soon as Manchin green lighted the climate tax bill. As one GOP analyst admitted…they just could not stomach the DEMS having any success….so eff the vets. That is all there is to it.

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Just now, TH3 said:

The GOP flipped on this as soon as Manchin green lighted the climate tax bill. As one GOP analyst admitted…they just could not stomach the DEMS having any success….so eff the vets. That is all there is to it.

 

Yep, this is true.

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Just now, TH3 said:

The GOP flipped on this as soon as Manchin green lighted the climate tax bill. As one GOP analyst admitted…they just could not stomach the DEMS having any success….so eff the vets. That is all there is to it.

If that's true they should be ashamed of themselves and be replaced in the next election.

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Just now, TH3 said:

The GOP flipped on this as soon as Manchin green lighted the climate tax bill. As one GOP analyst admitted…they just could not stomach the DEMS having any success….so eff the vets. That is all there is to it.

 

Bingo. GOP Senators were ok with the marriage bill and the PACT Act only on the condition that the Dems didn't do a reconciliation bill.

 

The Dems managed to get a proposal for a reconciliation bill, so now the GOP senators are going to tank two unrelated bills.

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1 minute ago, wnyguy said:

No respect for these politicians at all.

 

It seems kind of short-sighted to screw over a consistent portion of your base like that just to make a political point. People are suffering physically and financially from this stuff and will continue to do so now, just so the other side didn't win too much. Scumbags.

 

Also GOP: Support the Troops!

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5 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

If that's true they should be ashamed of themselves and be replaced in the next election.

That’s what the people who voted them into office want. That’s our countries issue now right? Half the country is proudly in eff you mode.

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1 minute ago, Gene Frenkle said:

There is an unsurprising, yet noticeable lack of Q in this thread.

 

Just wait. It's coming.

 

INB4: The small technical amendments that required the re-vote created a slush fund for reverse vampire pedophiles

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2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Just wait. It's coming.

 

INB4: The small technical amendments that required the re-vote created a slush fund for reverse vampire pedophiles

 

So they're waiting for one of the conspiracy sites to tell them what to think, gotcha. Can't wait!

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Sen. Pat Toomey, a Pennsylvania Republican, has been pushing for an amendment focused on the funding for the bill for several weeks, placing a hold on the legislation before the July 4 recess. He wants to change it so the funding of the bill is handled through the annual appropriations process instead of being mandatory spending as the Democrats have structured it in the bill.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/28/politics/chuck-schumer-burn-pits-vote-republican-frustration/index.html

 

Toomey being a jerk ,  bill should pass next week. 

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15 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

They’re all scum. I’m sure everyone involved had ulterior motives and probably only a handful actually care about veterans at all. 
 

Also wtf makes this cost 280 billion dollars?
 

3.5 million vets exposed to toxins…I am sure you probably think that’s too much to spend on those vets though

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7 minutes ago, TH3 said:

3.5 million vets exposed to toxins…I am sure you probably think that’s too much to spend on those vets though

 

What’s it buying? A Ferrari for each one? I’m just asking what cost drivers are. I know, I know… sheep don’t think it’s permissible to question that sort of stuff. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

They’re all scum. I’m sure everyone involved had ulterior motives and probably only a handful actually care about veterans at all. 
 

Also wtf makes this cost 280 billion dollars?
 

The pork they jam into every bill.

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8 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

What’s it buying? A Ferrari for each one? I’m just asking what cost drivers are. I know, I know… sheep don’t think it’s permissible to question that sort of stuff. 
 

 

It's not really that complicated, 3.5 million veterans so if treatment costs $1000 for each one that's 3.5 Billion, if it's $10,000 that's 35 Billion, $100,000 would be 350 Billion. All that's ignoring whatever costs there are setting the whole thing up and processing it.

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10 hours ago, TH3 said:

The GOP flipped on this as soon as Manchin green lighted the climate tax bill. As one GOP analyst admitted…they just could not stomach the DEMS having any success….so eff the vets. That is all there is to it.

That's really the only way I read it.  Republicans will use pork spending as the rationale although they passed the exact same bill in June 84-14.  The House changed just added a minor revision on awarding tax credits if VA healthcare providers move to high-need locations.  There's no pork in the bill.  All of it goes to veterans who suffered from toxic exposures during their service.  Republicans misplayed this politically and some veterans may suffer because of it.  Pathetic.

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4 hours ago, Warcodered said:

It's not really that complicated, 3.5 million veterans so if treatment costs $1000 for each one that's 3.5 Billion, if it's $10,000 that's 35 Billion, $100,000 would be 350 Billion. All that's ignoring whatever costs there are setting the whole thing up and processing it.


it isn’t complicated to deal with a base ten number system and orders of magnitude. But this third grade math exercise still hasn’t explained what this Money is buying unless it’s just buying money, or hundred thousand dollar average treatment cost is a known standard of care… 

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14 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Bingo. GOP Senators were ok with the marriage bill and the PACT Act only on the condition that the Dems didn't do a reconciliation bill.

 

The Dems managed to get a proposal for a reconciliation bill, so now the GOP senators are going to tank two unrelated bills.

More importantly, what are we going to do with the birthing persons reproductive health care rights?  What a mess. 

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If the similar bill passed a month ago to fund vets why not just go back to that one? The funding question is legitimate but the Republicans should absolutely put forward the bill to make the proper funding available to our vets 

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14 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

They’re all scum. I’m sure everyone involved had ulterior motives and probably only a handful actually care about veterans at all. 
 

Also wtf makes this cost 280 billion dollars?
 

 

The bill is projected to increase federal spending by about $283 billion over 10 years and does not include offsetting spending cuts or tax increases to help pay for it.

 

https://kesq.com/news/2022/07/29/congressman-raul-ruiz-outraged-after-senate-blocks-burn-pits-bill/

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