NFL First Round Discussion Thread

[RocCityRoller]

Jets and Detroit doing well. No dumb picks....

[Ralonzo]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:04 AM, Playoffs? said:

Doubt Beane is very happy right now. Not about the pick itself, but because he was forced into a move and had to pay for it, versus waiting and or having leverage. 

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Leaving that void at CB obviated taking BPA, I don't believe for a moment Lloyd didn't have a R1 grade. 

[starrymessenger]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:06 AM, Nitro said:

Greg Cossell gave a precise evaluation on Elam.  He will fit in very well opposite Tre.  4.39 speed and is a physical CB.  Beane and his team has one of the best draft records.  Armchair GMs can moan and groan but the facts speak for themselves.  

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Maybe i’m wrong but I didn’t think he ran 4.39 40 at the combine. id like him more if he did. 

[Malazan]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:02 AM, SCBills said:

Not sure what happened with Jermaine Johnson, or why Beane apparently didn’t have a 1st RD grade on him, but the Jets - on paper - look to have had a great RD1 with 3 potential impact players. 

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I definitely trust the Jets GM over Beane. Bills only had the #1 defense and #3 offense. Jets had the 32nd defense and 26th offense. 

 

Johnson had a 14% pass rush win rate which is not simply low, but truly abysmal. He may be good, but I wouldn't be sure he actually wins a position on actual production this year and they certainly couldn't put him on the practice squad. 

[GunnerBill]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:09 AM, starrymessenger said:

Maybe i’m wrong but I didn’t think he ran 4.39 40 at the combine. id like him more if he did. 

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He did

[UKBillFan]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:08 AM, H2o said:

Matt Corral is going to be the last one left in the "Green Room"

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I really want the Packers to draft him. Know they won't but for the laughs... 🤣

[Warcodered]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:07 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

A second, two 4ths and a 5th 

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wow they had a lot of picks.

[jkeerie]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:08 AM, Ethan in Portland said:

But but BPA......

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They wanted Elam...plain and simple and were concerned after KC moved up for McDuffie.   

[ExWNYer]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:00 AM, Mango said:

I hate to say it out loud but the Jets got a lot better tonight. 

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They did have the most ammo and the most ground to make up in the division, too.

[Malazan]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:09 AM, starrymessenger said:

Maybe i’m wrong but I didn’t think he ran 4.39 40 at the combine. id like him more if he did. 

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Not hard to find this stuff out. https://www.si.com/college/florida/football/florida-gators-nfl-draft-kaiir-elam-pro-day-2022#:~:text=After clocking a 4.39-second,a 4.21-second pro shuttle.

[CaliBills]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:09 AM, starrymessenger said:

Maybe i’m wrong but I didn’t think he ran 4.39 40 at the combine. id like him more if he did. 

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He did, a quick google shows the time.

 

so you like him more now.

 

https://www.nfl.com/videos/kaiir-elam-runs-40-yard-dash-at-2022-combine

[Mango]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:07 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

A second, two 4ths and a 5th 

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 And a 3rd from TN

[No_Matter_What]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:03 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

It happens. It was an overpay by the value of trades in this first round, but it is pretty much bang on the JJ chart value. 

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I am not talking about value of the trade. I am talking about being desperate to trade up because you have 1 player with 1st round grade left and it happens to be a player on the position of need and everybody knows it.

 

It is not a big deal I love Beane just saying that this looks like a panic move (by his own words) and it was not his best moment.

 

I am actually very surprised by what he said. It doesn't make him look good. And he could've say many different things.

[gobills1212]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:08 AM, Playoffs? said:

Ease up fella. No need to get upset. I would hardly say I was complaining.. just stating that our hands seem to have been tied and teams somewhat knew it. 
I’m baffled that my comment triggered you that much. I’m a huge Beane supporter and I trust the guy, but I saw this exact scenario coming from a mile away. 
 

Is what it is. We needed a corner. 

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Right,  so we did what was needed. Why complain? This post is sensible. The previous one was unnecessarily throwing shade. Nothing personal, its a message board. That said, ever read the Pats board or Chiefs planet? The ignorance and entitlement is unbearable. Bills fans are better than that. Winning is fun, but that previous 20 years sucked. A little bit of remembering where we came from to get here goes a long way

[freddyjj]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:09 AM, starrymessenger said:

Maybe i’m wrong but I didn’t think he ran 4.39 40 at the combine. id like him more if he did. 

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He most certainly did!

Like him more?

Edited April 29, 2022 by freddyjj

[CaliBills]

Elam is the pick to try and counter Hill being on the dolphins and any other speed receiver because lets be frank, speed (especially hill) has killed this team in very important games.

[Governor]

  On 4/29/2022 at 2:57 AM, Ethan in Portland said:

Translation he panicked 

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He definitely did. Looks like he thought McDuffie was going to be there then scrambled to get the last CB on their board.

 

Im sure he will be a perfectly fine player but giving up a 4th was typical Beane head scratcher. He sure loves to hand over picks.

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[GunnerBill]

  On 4/29/2022 at 3:11 AM, No_Matter_What said:

I am not talking about value of the trade. I am talking about being desperate to trade up because you have 1 player with 1st round grade left and it happens to be a player on the position of need and everybody knows it.

 

It is not a big deal I love Beane just saying that this looks like a panic move (by his own words) and it was not his best moment.

 

I am actually very surprised by what he said. It doesn't make him look good. And he could've say many different things.

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They got a bit desperate. I think that is clearly evident. But if Kaiir Elam gives us a legit 1A and 1B at corner it won't matter. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Ravens always seem to draft great without having top picks.

[qwksilver]

Pats* traded back with Johnson and Lloyd on the board. His genius label is fading quickly.