McDermott’s defensive timeouts have jumped the shark

[Einstein]

I need to do some homework to determine whether my gut matches actual statistical output (reality), but it certainly feels that McDermott’s defensive timeouts often precede a successful play by the opposing offense.

 

To that point, Mahomes’ admitted that the Bills defensive timeout gave the Chiefs time to talk about changing Kelce’s route to take advantage of the defense:

 

“The play to Travis, he wasn’t necessarily supposed to do that, but after the timeout we got a look at what the defense was doing, and he said it to me, ‘If they do it again, I’m going to take it up the middle between both the guys guarding me,'” - Patrick Mahomes

 

1) My hypothesis is that defensive timeouts in key situations are not helping the team.

 

2) Why would you take a defensive timeout only to roll out in the same coverage?

[Starr Almighty]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

I need to do some homework to determine whether my gut matches actual statistical output (reality), but it certainly feels that McDermott’s defensive timeouts often precede a successful play by the opposing offense.

 

To that point, Mahomes’ admitted that the Bills defensive timeout gave the Chiefs time to talk about changing Kelce’s route to take advantage of the defense:

 

“The play to Travis, he wasn’t necessarily supposed to do that, but after the timeout we got a look at what the defense was doing, and he said it to me, ‘If they do it again, I’m going to take it up the middle between both the guys guarding me,'” - Patrick Mahomes

 

1) My hypothesis is that defensive timeouts in key situations are not helping the team.

 

2) Why would you take a defensive timeout only to roll out in the same coverage?

I'm devastated that's why

[RoyBatty is alive]

i AGREE 100%.

 

If the Bills defense had JUST gotten off the field after an exhausting extenuated drive, yes I can see a defensive timeout.  Not after one play with realistically only one play left.

 

Epically bad defense last two minutes.  Frazier and or McD are responsible.

[dave mcbride]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I need to do some homework to determine whether my gut matches actual statistical output (reality), but it certainly feels that McDermott’s defensive timeouts often precede a successful play by the opposing offense.

 

To that point, Mahomes’ admitted that the Bills defensive timeout gave the Chiefs time to talk about changing Kelce’s route to take advantage of the defense:

 

“The play to Travis, he wasn’t necessarily supposed to do that, but after the timeout we got a look at what the defense was doing, and he said it to me, ‘If they do it again, I’m going to take it up the middle between both the guys guarding me,'” - Patrick Mahomes

 

1) My hypothesis is that defensive timeouts in key situations are not helping the team.

 

2) Why would you take a defensive timeout only to roll out in the same coverage?

yep, a friend and I were just texting about this.

[HoofHearted]

6 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I need to do some homework to determine whether my gut matches actual statistical output (reality), but it certainly feels that McDermott’s defensive timeouts often precede a successful play by the opposing offense.

 

To that point, Mahomes’ admitted that the Bills defensive timeout gave the Chiefs time to talk about changing Kelce’s route to take advantage of the defense:

 

“The play to Travis, he wasn’t necessarily supposed to do that, but after the timeout we got a look at what the defense was doing, and he said it to me, ‘If they do it again, I’m going to take it up the middle between both the guys guarding me,'” - Patrick Mahomes

 

1) My hypothesis is that defensive timeouts in key situations are not helping the team.

 

2) Why would you take a defensive timeout only to roll out in the same coverage?

But they didn't roll out in the same coverage.

[QCity]

And this is not what "jumped the shark" means...

[HomeskillitMoorman]

It’s scary that McD had those timeouts, used them, and still did horrible things with that extra time. 

[LABILLBACKER]

Rush 3 and tell 4 of your remaining 8 dbs to double both Hill and Kelce. This isn't rocket science.  Sean is not very bright. Not popping up the kickoff cost us the game and that's 100% on Clappy.  You watch Leslie staring aimlessly into the abyss, it's comical. 

[Einstein]

4 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

But they didn't roll out in the same coverage.

Kelce and Mahomes seems to think they did…

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Rush 3 and tell 4 of your remaining 8 dbs to double both Hill and Kelce. This isn't rocket science.  Sean is not very bright. Not popping up the kickoff cost us the game and that's 100% on Clappy.  You watch Leslie staring aimlessly into the abyss, it's comical. 

 

Rush two.

[Yobogoya!]

12 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I need to do some homework to determine whether my gut matches actual statistical output (reality), but it certainly feels that McDermott’s defensive timeouts often precede a successful play by the opposing offense.

 

To that point, Mahomes’ admitted that the Bills defensive timeout gave the Chiefs time to talk about changing Kelce’s route to take advantage of the defense:

 

“The play to Travis, he wasn’t necessarily supposed to do that, but after the timeout we got a look at what the defense was doing, and he said it to me, ‘If they do it again, I’m going to take it up the middle between both the guys guarding me,'” - Patrick Mahomes

 

1) My hypothesis is that defensive timeouts in key situations are not helping the team.

 

2) Why would you take a defensive timeout only to roll out in the same coverage?

 

Yep, I've been mentioning this online and off a lot today because it's really grating my gears as well. 

 

Both timeouts were used, presumably, to make sure we were in the right defensive call. 

 

Well, both those calls got GASHED for 19 and 25 yards respectively. 

 

Think about that. We weren't just beaten on those two plays; we had the exact look we WANTED defensively and STILL got brutalized. 

 

And you're right, this is far from the first time. It's been a recurring theme as McD "smartly" uses timeouts he doesn't need anymore to "help" the defense out. 

[Motorin']

6 minutes ago, QCity said:

And this is not what "jumped the shark" means...

 

What in the hell does jump the shake mean? I feel like it's something Fonzie did on Happy Days with his motorcycle... Am I just delerious?

[Big Turk]

15 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I need to do some homework to determine whether my gut matches actual statistical output (reality), but it certainly feels that McDermott’s defensive timeouts often precede a successful play by the opposing offense.

 

To that point, Mahomes’ admitted that the Bills defensive timeout gave the Chiefs time to talk about changing Kelce’s route to take advantage of the defense:

 

“The play to Travis, he wasn’t necessarily supposed to do that, but after the timeout we got a look at what the defense was doing, and he said it to me, ‘If they do it again, I’m going to take it up the middle between both the guys guarding me,'” - Patrick Mahomes

 

1) My hypothesis is that defensive timeouts in key situations are not helping the team.

 

2) Why would you take a defensive timeout only to roll out in the same coverage?

 

Exactly...if they are going to call a timeout at least put a fake defense out there the first time. Makes no sense at all.

[HoofHearted]

@Einsteinalignment and coverage are two totally different things. Before the timeout the Bills showed a 0 Blitz - came out of the timeout playing Cover 2.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I've watched the play a bunch of times and I have to believe the DE screwed up. He has to get a piece of Kelce. It's the only thing I can think of.

[BuffaloBillyG]

4 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

What in the hell does jump the shake mean? I feel like it's something Fonzie did on Happy Days with his motorcycle... Am I just delerious?

[Simon]

17 minutes ago, Einstein said:

Kelce and Mahomes seems to think they did…

 

Rush two.

 

Not saying you're wrong, but in that situation I might not bother to rush anybody.

[Motorin']

6 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

 

The saying does come from Happy Days. But Fonzie was on water skies not a motorcycle... Son the Defensive TO's where more like trying to lift the shark.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

 

The saying does come from Happy Days. But Fonzie was on water skies not a motorcycle... Son the Defensive TO's where more like trying to lift the shark.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, I am fully aware. I'm pretty old. But you only get so many chances to use a "Brock Lesnar F5's a shark" gif....so had to jump on it.😂

[Brennan Huff]

24 minutes ago, QCity said:

And this is not what "jumped the shark" means...

This was my first thought as well

[Motorin']

1 minute ago, Brennan Huff said:

This was my first thought as well

 

Shot self in foot is the metaphor he's looking for. 

[947]

When Fonzie jumped the over the shark on water skis, it was the moment that made it apparent Happy Days had no good stories left to tell and had to resort to something crazy to inject excitement into the show. Same thing when a show adds a kid to the mix after it starts to decline, but that's still "jumping the shark".

[GETTOTHE50]

Ive pointed this out during the Browns game the Bills lost two years ago. McDermott's defensive time-outs put the team out of position for TDs even then.

 

Its a weak point he has not improved on.

[JoshAllin]

The timeouts was just as bad as Staley's earlier which the raiders where looking to run clock out but instead rested the players and made em call a better play

[eSJayDee]

I think the reason for them is that they believe that given adequate time to devise a strategy, they're going to be smarter than whatever the opponents can come up w/ in that time.  Either that, or they don't think they're prepared at all or they're more gassed than the offense & need the rest.  The latter is an indictment on our preparedness & based on biased observation, it seems that the former is just plain wrong.

[Golden]

39 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I've watched the play a bunch of times and I have to believe the DE screwed up. He has to get a piece of Kelce. It's the only thing I can think of.

Yes!  Kelces clean run off the line of scrimmage was mind boggling 

[Einstein]

2 hours ago, Simon said:

 

Not saying you're wrong, but in that situation I might not bother to rush anybody.

 

You make a good point and I thought about that as well. You may very well be right, but my rational was to keep two players on the DL to get their hands into passing lanes.

[Einstein]

2 hours ago, 947 said:

When Fonzie jumped the over the shark on water skis, it was the moment that made it apparent Happy Days had no good stories left to tell and had to resort to something crazy to inject excitement into the show. Same thing when a show adds a kid to the mix after it starts to decline, but that's still "jumping the shark".

 

Correct. And the term has evolved into broader usage as an idiom that describes anything that is no longer interesting, useful, as designed, or smart. In other words, something that is on the decline.

 

I realize that this is the internet and therefore everyone wants to argue semantics, but this is a bit ridiculous.

[Einstein]

3 hours ago, HoofHearted said:

@Einsteinalignment and coverage are two totally different things. Before the timeout the Bills showed a 0 Blitz - came out of the timeout playing Cover 2.

 

No they didn’t.

 

Here is before and after the timout. They never showed 0 blitz.

 

They showed the exact same alignment on both plays, and on both plays Poyer moved back into Cover 2 post snap.

 

Before Timeout

 

After Timeout

 

Edited January 24, 2022 by Einstein

[0017]

3 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Rush 3 and tell 4 of your remaining 8 dbs to double both Hill and Kelce. This isn't rocket science.  Sean is not very bright. Not popping up the kickoff cost us the game and that's 100% on Clappy.  You watch Leslie staring aimlessly into the abyss, it's comical. 

They did rush 3! They had Addison at the line and he literally did nothing just stood there and watched!! I’m talking about the play to kelce to get them in FG range. Absolutely terrible! I really don’t understand what they were doing! 

[HoofHearted]

8 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

No they didn’t.

 

Here is before and after the timout. They never showed 0 blitz.

 

They showed the exact same alignment on both plays, and on both plays Poyer moved back into Cover 2 post snap.

 

Before Timeout

 

After Timeout

 

Must have been the one earlier that they called the timeout on then. It's still not the same alignments though. Addison is flipped and I'm curious as to why.

Edited January 24, 2022 by HoofHearted