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11 hours ago, eball said:

I’ve come to the conclusion that I hope the Bills go WR at #25.

 

Here are the positions I think it’s clear they will not draft in the 1st round:  QB, RB, TE, OL, LB, S.  That leaves DL, CB, and WR.  I know a lot of folks are worried about the DL and pass rush but I think they bring Hughes back and we’ve got to give the young guys (Epenesa, Rousseau, Basham) a chance to show they are developing.  I think they re-sign Harry and bring in a FA vet at DT.  I also have a feeling they wind up re-signing Levi.  They will draft at least one CB later on but I don’t see 1st round.  Which brings me back to WR in another strong class.  Beane has got to continue to give Josh weapons, so draft a guy with first round talent who doesn’t have to “star” immediately but can play ST and be the 4th WR in spread sets.  That’s an instant upgrade to an already dangerous offense.

 

 

I like your reasoning here. And the logic.

 

I can see this happening and would welcome it warmly.

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25.

Trent McDuffie

CB Washington

57.

Zion Johnson

OG Boston College

89.

John Metchie III

WR Alabama

129.

John Ridgeway

DT Arkansas

168.

Josh Jobe

CB Alabama

184.

Brian Robinson Jr.

RB Alabama

202.

Matt Araiza

P San Diego State

229.

Peyton Hendershot

TE Indiana

244.

Reggie Roberson

WR SMU

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Round: 1

Trent McDuffie

CB | Washington

57

Round: 2

John Metchie III

WR | Alabama

89

Round: 3

Jalen Wydermyer

TE | Texas A&M

128

Round: 4

Hassan Haskins

RB | Michigan

167

Round: 5

Cade Mays

IOL | Tennessee

183

Round: 6

Marquan McCall

DL | Kentucky

201

Round: 6

Matt Araiza

P | San Diego State

228

Round: 7

Micah McFadden

LB | Indiana

243

Round: 7

Isaac Taylor-Stuart,cb USC

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25:

GARRETT WILSON

WR, OHIO STATE

57:

JOSH JOBE

CB, ALABAMA

89:

ALEC LINDSTROM

OC, BOSTON COLLEGE

126:

JOHN RIDGEWAY

DT, ARKANSAS

166:

REGGIE ROBERSON JR.

WR, SMU

184:

ISAAC TAYLOR-STUART

CB, USC

203:

CALVIN AUSTIN III

WR, MEMPHIS

228:

CADE MAYS

OT, TENNESSEE

243:

MARQUAN MCCALL

DT, KENTUCKY

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25: R1 P25 WR Jameson Williams - Alabama

57: R2 P25 RB Breece Hall - Iowa State

89: R3 P25 CB Tariq Castro-Fields - Penn State

129: R4 P25 DL Travis Jones - Connecticut

168: R5 P25 CB Cam Taylor-Britt - Nebraska

184: R6 P6 G Cade Mays - Tennessee

202: R6 P24 P Matt Araiza - San Diego State

229: R7 P10 C Alec Lindstrom - Boston College

244: R7 P25 WR Reggie Roberson Jr. - SMU

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6 hours ago, ScorpionZero said:

25: R1 P25 WR Jameson Williams - Alabama

57: R2 P25 RB Breece Hall - Iowa State

89: R3 P25 CB Tariq Castro-Fields - Penn State

129: R4 P25 DL Travis Jones - Connecticut

168: R5 P25 CB Cam Taylor-Britt - Nebraska

184: R6 P6 G Cade Mays - Tennessee

202: R6 P24 P Matt Araiza - San Diego State

229: R7 P10 C Alec Lindstrom - Boston College

244: R7 P25 WR Reggie Roberson Jr. - SMU

 

How many hours a day do you spend doing mock draft simulations? 

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PFN

 

25 Kaiir Elam CB Florida

57 Travis Jones DT Connecticut

104 Thayer Munford OG Ohio State (T)

129 Calvin Austin III WR Memphis

142 Tyler Goodson RB Iowa (T)

168 Obinna Eze OT TCU

184 James Mitchell TE Virginia Tech

202 Jake Camarda P Georgia

 

Traded down with the LA Rams in Round 3.

 

Picks 89, 229 and 224 to LA.

Picks 104 and 142 to Buffalo plus Green Bay’s Round 6 pick and Detroit’s Round 7 pick in 2023. Both obtained via the LA Rams trade.

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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

How many hours a day do you spend doing mock draft simulations? 

I also read multiple write ups on players as well as whatever film I can find and I do the mocks. I'm retired, I'm bored. It's my hobby from after SB till draft day. Sorry if it bothers you.

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Here's my picks, I have no idea who most these players are lol...

 

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 26: Jordan Davis, DT, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 28 (DAL): Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26: Rasheed Walker, OT, Penn State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 28 (DAL): Isaiah Spiller, RB, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 4 Pick 26: Nehemiah Pritchett, CB, Auburn (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26: Spencer Burford, OG, UTSA (A+)
Round 6 Pick 6: Jesse Luketa, ILB/OLB, Penn State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 25: Cole Turner, TE, Nevada (A+)
Round 7 Pick 10: Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson, CB, TCU (A+)
Round 7 Pick 26: Changa Hodge, WR, Virginia Tech (A+)

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57 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said:

I also read multiple write ups on players as well as whatever film I can find and I do the mocks. I'm retired, I'm bored. It's my hobby from after SB till draft day. Sorry if it bothers you.

I haven't gone to ignore because there is nothing impolite.  But I don't read any of them.

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3 hours ago, ScorpionZero said:

I also read multiple write ups on players as well as whatever film I can find and I do the mocks. I'm retired, I'm bored. It's my hobby from after SB till draft day. Sorry if it bothers you.

Doesn't bother me at all. Actually enjoy them. Different players to research from my own are always welcome. Some of us aren't into college ball, so always good to see others thoughts. Just ignore anyone who complains, there are plenty of other threads they can read.😉

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On 1/24/2022 at 1:33 AM, John from Riverside said:

I was very gung ho about a guard in the first round of this upcoming draft however I think Ryan Bates Has made his name in consideration for that starting spot honestly keeping this group might not be a bad idea even though we should draft a bates like player in the draft

 

We need a corner with speed or a pure pass rusher on the defensive line rounds one or two of this next draft in my opinion thoughts?

My thoughts are like most years: If you do not need a QB then allow FA to take its course, then form your draft board and roll BPA unless we have such a glaring need i.e. CB

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4 hours ago, ScorpionZero said:

I also read multiple write ups on players as well as whatever film I can find and I do the mocks. I'm retired, I'm bored. It's my hobby from after SB till draft day. Sorry if it bothers you.

I used to make time to watch a lot of film on prospects too.  Too busy these days tho.  Fun hobby. 

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4 hours ago, ScorpionZero said:

I also read multiple write ups on players as well as whatever film I can find and I do the mocks. I'm retired, I'm bored. It's my hobby from after SB till draft day. Sorry if it bothers you.

 

It doesn't bother me, whatever keeps you entertained. But maybe confine to one thread?!

 

EDIT: We did have a pinned thread one year where we put mock draft sims as I recall? Maybe the mods could create one for this year?

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My biggest thought is that I doubt we don't take a CB in the first based on the depth of the position in this draft and the fact you can always use more DBs. Secondly I would bet that every pick after the 3rd round is simply the guy with the highest ceiling, basically a bunch of lottery tickets due to being strong with our starters overall.

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R1: 25 - WR Chris Olave, Ohio State

A polished receiver with great hands who projects perfectly into the role departed by Emmanuel Sanders with a ton of upside. The perfect compliment for Diggs and Davis for years to come.

R2: 57 - CB Kyler Gordon, Washington

The replacement for the cerebral if athletically limited Levi Wallace. While our coaches and safeties have had to compensate for a lack of athleticism opposite Tre'Davious White, Kyler Gordon has all the physical gifts to match up with anyone and allow us to get more aggressive in the secondary.

R3: 89 - DT Neil Farrell Jr., LSU

The eventual replacement for Star Lotulelei with the ability to rotate immediately on early downs as a run stopper and upside rushing the passer.

R4: 127 - CB Marcus Jones, Houston

A top flight athlete and incredible return specialist with the potential to contribute in the slot on defense,

R5: 166 - P Matt Araiza, San Diego State

The second piece to solving our special teams struggles.

R6: 184 - DT Noah Elliss, Idaho

A big boy with incredible power as an early down run stuffer and goal line anchor with the potential to rotate on early downs at the one technique. 

R6: 202 - C Luke Wattenberg, Washington

A versatile and athletic player for the Huskies with 48 starts at tackle and guard before seamlessly transitioning to center this season. The exact type of player this team loves for depth on the line.

R7: 242 - TE Cameron Latu, Alabama

A underutilized asset at Alabama who started on defense before a sophomore transition to offense. He had the biggest game of his career in the College Football Playoff against Georgia and could push Tommy Sweeny for snaps as a second tight end.

 

I took at shot at the PFF Mock Draft Simulator and would be thrilled if we got lucky enough to have these guys on the board particularly in the early rounds.

 

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43 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It doesn't bother me, whatever keeps you entertained. But maybe confine to one thread?!

 

EDIT: We did have a pinned thread one year where we put mock draft sims as I recall? Maybe the mods could create one for this year?

That's all I want is someplace to put them when I'm done. All for it

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25. DeMarvin Leal IDL,

 

here's my thinking, we've added defensive ends which I think we're fine at. But adding a second 3t with his first step quickness and athleticism would do the most to make our pass rush a terror. On passing downs you'd have Rousseau-Leal-Oliver-Epenesa and with all that athletic ability you can run multiple alignments and stunts. You could even shift Leal over the the tackle and Rousseau could play a wide 9.

 

57. John Metchie III WR,

 

No CB ranked near enough to 57, so this is a luxury pick

 

89. Martin Emerson CB,

 

Ranking was close enough, has size, length, and his ability to play our zone/press scheme

 

128. John Ridgeway IDL,

 

now this is what makes Leals selection very helpful, Ridgeway is a big boy 6'4" 327 who's thickly built and powerful with enough athleticism for our new 1T. Now on run downs you've got 

Leal-Phillips-Ridgeway-Bashem and if it's play action they can still put some heat on the QB

 

167. Hassan Haskins RB,

 

hard runner with size, likes contract praised by teammates on and off the field

 

183. Cade Mays IOL,

 

he's built like a guard at 6'4" 325 has played every position except center, has allot of experience and the film I watched he plays like a bully.

 

201. Chris Paul IOL,

 

a mirror image of Mays, now we've got a couple guards who could turn into our interior line for the foreseeable future.

 

228. Tre Turner WR,

 

he's roughly the same size as Metchie with deep speed, just not the quicks like him, and limited route tree. To start just someone to run really fast down field and make the defense worry.

 

243. DaMarcus Fields CB,

 

had size and length, that works best in zone, needs coaching and NFL training.

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25: R1 P25 DL Devonte Wyatt - Georgia

57: R2 P25 CB Kyler Gordon - Washington

89: R3 P25 C Alec Lindstrom - Boston College

129: R4 P25 G Lecitus Smith - Virginia Tech

168: R5 P25 RB Hassan Haskins - Michigan

184: R6 P6 DL Otito Ogbonnia - UCLA

202: R6 P24 P Jake Camarda - Georgia

229: R7 P10 CB Josh Jobe - Alabama

244: R7 P25 WR Tay Martin - Oklahoma State

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Round 1 Pick 26: DeMarvin Leal, DT, Texas A&M (A)
Round 2 Pick 26: Breece Hall, RB, Iowa State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26: Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati (A+)
Round 4 Pick 26: Cam Taylor-Britt, CB, Nebraska (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26: Johnathan Ridgeway, TE, Alabama (A+)
Round 6 Pick 6: Cade Mays, OG, Tennessee (A+)
Round 6 Pick 25: Josh Thompson, CB, Texas (A+)
Round 7 Pick 10: Matt Araiza, P, San Diego State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 26: Jalen McKenzie, OG/OT, USC (B+)

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Too early.  Need to see who we release, extend, pick up in free agency, and trade if at all.

 

Once we have that info in late March, early April, we can dig in deep into the draft, and love all of you’re opinions once we lead up to it.

 

I never jump the gun to the draft as it just all changes after free agency.  You also get a clearer window in what Beane wants to do as he typically fills needs in FA, and likes to go after BPA met with need in the draft.

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25.

Kaiir Elam

CB Florida

57.

Kyler Gordon

CB Washington

89.

Alec Lindstrom

OC Boston College

129.

John Ridgeway

DT Arkansas

168.

Hassan Haskins

RB Michigan

184.

Bubba Bolden

S Miami-Fl

202.

Matt Araiza

P San Diego State

229.

Reggie Roberson

WR SMU

244.

Jeremiah Gemmel

LB North Carolina

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11 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said:

25.

Kaiir Elam

CB Florida

57.

Kyler Gordon

CB Washington

89.

Alec Lindstrom

OC Boston College

129.

John Ridgeway

DT Arkansas

168.

Hassan Haskins

RB Michigan

184.

Bubba Bolden

S Miami-Fl

202.

Matt Araiza

P San Diego State

229.

Reggie Roberson

WR SMU

244.

Jeremiah Gemmel

LB North Carolina

Not nearly enough emphasis on the secondary and WAY too much concern about the OL protecting and Josh Allen.

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25.

Kaiir Elam

CB Florida

57.

Kyler Gordon

CB Washington

89.

Alec Lindstrom

OC Boston College

129.

John Ridgeway

DT Arkansas

168.

Hassan Haskins

RB Michigan

184.

Bubba Bolden

S Miami-Fl

202.

Matt Araiza

P San Diego State

229.

Reggie Roberson

WR SMU

244.

Jeremiah Gemmel

LB North Carolina

3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Not nearly enough emphasis on the secondary and WAY too much concern about the OL protecting and Josh Allen.

Josh can run, who needs lineman

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17 hours ago, ScorpionZero said:

Round 1 Pick 26: DeMarvin Leal, DT, Texas A&M (A)
Round 2 Pick 26: Breece Hall, RB, Iowa State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 26: Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati (A+)
Round 4 Pick 26: Cam Taylor-Britt, CB, Nebraska (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26: Johnathan Ridgeway, TE, Alabama (A+)
Round 6 Pick 6: Cade Mays, OG, Tennessee (A+)
Round 6 Pick 25: Josh Thompson, CB, Texas (A+)
Round 7 Pick 10: Matt Araiza, P, San Diego State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 26: Jalen McKenzie, OG/OT, USC (B+)

This would be an AWESOME draft 

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25: R1 P25 WR Jameson Williams - Alabama

57: R2 P25 RB Breece Hall - Iowa State

89: R3 P25 DL John Ridgeway - Arkansas

129: R4 P25 CB Cam Taylor-Britt - Nebraska

168: R5 P25 G Cade Mays - Tennessee

184: R6 P6 CB Sevyn Banks - Ohio State

202: R6 P24 LB Zakoby McClain - Auburn

229: R7 P10 P Matt Araiza - San Diego State

244: R7 P25 WR Reggie Roberson Jr. - SMU

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Round 1 Pick 26: DeMarvin Leal, DT, Texas A&M (A)
Round 2 Pick 26: Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati (A)
Round 3 Pick 26: Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati (A+)
Round 4 Pick 26: Cam Taylor-Britt, CB, Nebraska (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26: Cade Mays, OG, Tennessee (A+)
Round 6 Pick 6: Hassan Haskins, RB, Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 25: Matt Araiza, P, San Diego State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 10: Charleston Rambo, WR, Miami (A)
Round 7 Pick 26: Josh Rivas, OG, Kansas State (A+)
 

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25.

Zion Johnson

OG Boston College

57.

John Metchie III

WR Alabama

89.

Haskell Garrett

DT Ohio State

129.

Cade Mays

OG Tennessee

168.

Cam Taylor-Britt

CB Nebraska

184.

Matt Araiza

P San Diego State

202.

Akayleb Evans

CB Missouri

229.

Marquan McCall

DT Kentucky

244.

Chris Paul

OG Tulsa

 

Added a half ton of meat to the center of the o-line.

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Round: 1

DeMarvin Leal

DL | Texas A&M

57

Round: 2

Breece Hall

RB | Iowa State

89

Round: 3

Alec Pierce

WR | Cincinnati

128

Round: 4

Cam Taylor-Britt

CB | Nebraska

167

Round: 5

Brian Asamoah II

LB | Oklahoma

183

Round: 6

Matt Araiza

P | San Diego State

201

Round: 6

Reggie Roberson

228

Round: 7

Isaac Taylor-Stuart

CB | USC

243

Round: 7

Marquan McCall

DL | Kentucky

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Interesting draft using the Mock Draft Database simulator.

 

25. R. Mccreary CB Auburn 

57. J. Salyer IOL Georgia

89. J. Ruckert TE Ohio State 

128. J. Ford RB Cincinnati 

167. C. Austin WR Tennessee 

183. T. Anderson S Toledo

201. M. McCall DT Kentucky

228. N. Ford IOL Utah

242. B. Olaseni OL Utah

 

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On 1/24/2022 at 1:00 AM, Gene1973 said:

McDermott got to do it his way last offseason and it failed. Those two DE's were useless this season, and this game.

 

If I'm Pegula, no longer do I allow McDermott telling Beane who to draft.

 

McDermott was the one who passed on Mahomes for a CB, and we all know Pegula wanted Mahomes. Now, Allen was probably the better fit here ultimately, but the defense first mindset is why the Bills can't get past the Chiefs. They will have trouble getting past the Bengals and Chargers in the comming years if they keep letting McDermott draft defense.

 

Not only is McDermott a failure on gamedays too often, but he is a failure on draft day as well.

What’s wrong Gene talk to us buddy we’re here to help !! 

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