Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/29/2021 at 11:35 PM, BruceVilanch said: I'm not an offensive line savant, but is Morse bad? like cut/trade bad? we are pretty thin on the OL and Morse seems to be a pretty decent C. He's not bad, but he's not dominant despite being paid like a top center. I think Bates is being prepped to replace him at a much lower salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Sign the best C/G you can Draft one in the first round - they are there in the 20s. Sign a CB to hold it down till Tre comes back Always draft DBs Find a RB to replace Moss - and upgrade over Motor who I'd love nothing more to see him become the man here down the stretch. That's probably the priority list not involving our own RFAs or UFAs. Aside from the obvious ones I'm moving on from Sanders, Hughes, and Addison. Keep Wallace and Harry. Edited December 31, 2021 by Big Blitz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Really good bills discussion. I would encourage everyone to scroll down and see the Pats write up. They are gonna lose pieces from that defense. They are better this year but I think all that spending is gonna hurt them in years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 9 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Notable Unrestricted Free Agents: Jerry Hughes (DE, 33), Mario Addison (DE, 34), Harrison Phillips (DT, 25), Emmanuel Sanders (WR, 34), Levi Wallace (CB, 26), Matt Breida (RB, 26), (I’ve bolded who I think they will make an offer to bring back) EDIT: Not listed in the article are the following players that are also unrestricted free agents: McKenzie (WR) Zimmer (DT) Neal (CB) Obada (DE) Jones (RB) Trubisky (QB) Butler (DT) Boettger (OL) Literally not a single impact player on the list. Wouldn’t mind seeing Wallace, Zimmer, MT, McKenzie, back, but no real losses if any of them get offered any real deals. I like McKenzie, but apparently he’s not a favorite of McClappy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 9 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Notable Unrestricted Free Agents: Jerry Hughes (DE, 33), resign Mario Addison (DE, 34), let him walk Harrison Phillips (DT, 25), resign Emmanuel Sanders (WR, 34), let him walk Levi Wallace (CB, 26), resign Matt Breida (RB, 26), let him walk (I’ve bolded who I think they will make an offer to bring back) EDIT: Not listed in the article are the following players that are also unrestricted free agents: McKenzie (WR) resign Zimmer (DT) resign Neal (CB) resign Obada (DE) resign Jones (RB) ??? Trubisky (QB) he walks probably Denver Butler (DT) no interest Boettger (OL) resign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Morse seems to be above average in pass blocking and below average at run blocking. If he doesn't retire , I see no reason to move on. He's a good C. Not great but great OL don't grow on trees 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Morse lowered his salary last year and though only average is still at worst the third best guy one the line - and that assumes Brown continues to develop. I wanted a C/G last year in the draft instead of Basham. I would spend money in FA on a really solid guard. Put him between Dawkins and Morse and the left side is set. Boettger will be cut or injury settlement. No way he plays next year with an Achilles tear in December. Keep Ford because he is cheap and has played a little better as of late. First round take OT unless there is a major run on them. If there is then go WR,RB, or TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 12:00 AM, HIT BY SPIKES said: Morse is just not playing up to his contract anymore. He is an average NFL C. I think he may retire this offseason as the rumours about what his father has said and his desire to spend more time with his disabled brother. He is not a player that is all about the money. He is a decent starting center. You can save money if you cut him but then you have to replace him with a guy who has never been in the Bills program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: He is a decent starting center. You can save money if you cut him but then you have to replace him with a guy who has never been in the Bills program. I think one of mongo or Morse is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/29/2021 at 11:35 PM, BruceVilanch said: I'm not an offensive line savant, but is Morse bad? like cut/trade bad? we are pretty thin on the OL and Morse seems to be a pretty decent C. He's pretty good this year tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Anybody have thoughts on what we're going to do with Klein? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 11 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Then from the outside? I suspect they sign at least one FA interior offensive lineman and possibly a receiver but I expect the receiver to be more a #3/#4 guy rather than a name in the way Sanders was. Depending on the Rodgers/Adams situations in GB….. Valdez-Scantling may be on Beane’s radar. They brought him in for a pre draft visit. Plus, MVS has used his freakish size/speed combination to become a good outside blocker and deep threat; can’t teach 6’4” & 4.39. I’m sure McB noticed that Davis is the only WR who really blocks bubble screens well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Anybody have thoughts on what we're going to do with Klein? Some on here are advocating letting him go. I like what he provides to the team. I’d focus on the OL. I’d go OL, CB, and RB in Rds 1-3, whoever is the BP at our spot. As for which spot on the OL, again, the best OL at our spot, be it a G, T, or C. We need upgrades at every position on the line. I also expect us to bring in someone decent in FA. I’d let the new RB and Motor battle it out. Hughes, thank you for your service Jones - bye Addison - bye Sanders - bye Beasley - bye Wallace - re-sign Draft a TE in the 4th rd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 14 hours ago, entropyrules said: Those extra late round picks - I hope they somehow find a diamond in the rough at CB, S, or OG anyone have an idea (probably too early to ask) if the Bills get any comp picks this year or are they all slotted for the Patriots per NFL policy With Trib likely to get a good contract chances of Bills getting comp picks goes up especially if they sign players post June 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Dang, the Dolphins have a ton of cap space. Maybe they'll spend it all on TE's and not use them much like New England did last off-season. 6 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: He is a decent starting center. You can save money if you cut him but then you have to replace him with a guy who has never been in the Bills program. Bates can play center... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 If I was forced into giving a decent extension to either Ed Oliver or Tremaine Edmunds, it’d be Oliver for me, hands down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 4 hours ago, MJS said: Dang, the Dolphins have a ton of cap space. Maybe they'll spend it all on TE's and not use them much like New England did last off-season. Bates can play center... Bates can play center. But can he play it as well as Morse? Will it impact Josh? Saving money is fine but you dont do it just to do it. You have to make your team better in the process. 11 hours ago, YattaOkasan said: I think one of mongo or Morse is gone. Agreed but its probably the guy who is nevet on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 11 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Anybody have thoughts on what we're going to do with Klein? My guess is they waive him and use the 4 mil in savings towards extending Edmunds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I reserve these conversations until after we are out if the race. I’d love to read more in each of you’re thoughts in February. We are going to never ending Lu discuss during FA, and the draft. For me it’s all about ATL tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 12:00 AM, HIT BY SPIKES said: Morse is just not playing up to his contract anymore. He is an average NFL C. I think he may retire this offseason as the rumours about what his father has said and his desire to spend more time with his disabled brother. He is not a player that is all about the money. He's obviously better moving backwards in pass pro instead of forward in run blocking. Coming from KC's offense this is not a surprise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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