For All The Young Bills Fans Wanting to Put to Bed The 90s Comparisons

[thronethinker]

For All The Young Bills Fans Wanting to Put to Bed The 90s Comparisons, forget about it. The 90s teams were never  out of a game so often. The 90s teams had a killer instinct and were never out of it until the last minute. Todays team does not have that, and it is not not even close. Josh may be great, but this team as a whole is awful compared to 90-94. 

[JoPoy88]

There’s no comparisons to be made. This team hasn’t even made 1 Superbowl yet. As far as comparing talent level/performance, there’s no comparisons there either because the game has completely changed since the early ‘90s. 

[Bills fan since 87]

4 minutes ago, thronethinker said:

For All The Young Bills Fans Wanting to Put to Bed The 90s Comparisons, forget about it. The 90s teams were never  out of a game so often. The 90s teams had a killer instinct and were never out of it until the last minute. Todays team does not have that, and it is not not even close. Josh may be great, but this team as a whole is awful compared to 90-94. 

 

Late 80s teams did though.  Maybe thats where this team is at?

[FilthyBeast]

As a fan that was around during the 90's I've always got a kick out of such silly comparisons.

 

Allen isn't Kelly and never will be. He's a tough kid and better than most QB's we've but another dumb move by this idiot GM has put expectations and pressure on him he'll never reach and why I always felt it was laughable to extend him so soon.

 

I respect what McDermott has done here but he's not Marv Levy and never taking this team to a championship, let alone a SB and last year was just a fluke and his Dick Jauron type of moment in the playoffs.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

5 minutes ago, thronethinker said:

For All The Young Bills Fans Wanting to Put to Bed The 90s Comparisons, forget about it. The 90s teams were never  out of a game so often. The 90s teams had a killer instinct and were never out of it until the last minute. Todays team does not have that, and it is not not even close. Josh may be great, but this team as a whole is awful compared to 90-94. 

BS! KC obliterated a “super bowl” bills  team. 

[Governor]

11 minutes ago, thronethinker said:

For All The Young Bills Fans Wanting to Put to Bed The 90s Comparisons, forget about it. The 90s teams were never  out of a game so often. The 90s teams had a killer instinct and were never out of it until the last minute. Todays team does not have that, and it is not not even close. Josh may be great, but this team as a whole is awful compared to 90-94. 

There were a few games where Kelly came out and threw 3 picks in the first quarter and the game was over.

 

I don’t remember any this late in the season tho. At one point I wanted him benched. He was awful at times.

 

when Kelly was bad, he was really bad.

Edited November 21, 2021 by Governor

[Beast]

1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

 

Allen isn't Kelly and never will be. He's a tough kid and better than most QB's we've but another dumb move by this idiot GM has put expectations and pressure on him he'll never reach and why I always felt it was laughable to extend him so soon.

You’ve made a lot of dumb comments in the past but that one takes the cake.

 

Every single GM in the NFL would have extended Allen and, rightfully so. Allen is not the problem with the Buffalo Bills. He’s actually what is right.

[Governor]

4 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

As a fan that was around during the 90's I've always got a kick out of such silly comparisons.

 

Allen isn't Kelly and never will be. He's a tough kid and better than most QB's we've but another dumb move by this idiot GM has put expectations and pressure on him he'll never reach and why I always felt it was laughable to extend him so soon.

 

I respect what McDermott has done here but he's not Marv Levy and never taking this team to a championship, let alone a SB and last year was just a fluke and his Dick Jauron type of moment in the playoffs.

Allen is already ten times better than Kelly. It’s not close either.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

10 minutes ago, thronethinker said:

For All The Young Bills Fans Wanting to Put to Bed The 90s Comparisons, forget about it. The 90s teams were never  out of a game so often. The 90s teams had a killer instinct and were never out of it until the last minute. Todays team does not have that, and it is not not even close. Josh may be great, but this team as a whole is awful compared to 90-94. 

This is just wrong. There were some brutal losses. KC on Monday night still haunts me. 

[Sweats]

2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

BS! KC obliterated a “super bowl” bills  team. 

 

 

 

 

When was that?.....oh, last year when they didnt make it to the SB.

 

A SB Bills team that didnt make it to the SB........................................................................................rolls eyes

[P Riv]

The 88-94 teams were LOADED with talent at every position group and had a dominant OL, this team can't say that.  

The players seem to have the same attitude as most of the fan base in that 13-3 was considered the floor and we were only destined for greater things.  Now the reality that every season is different and you have to be humble, work your asses off, etc. is fully setting in.  

 

[Nextmanup]

6 minutes ago, Bills fan since 87 said:

 

Late 80s teams did though.  Maybe thats where this team is at?

This is it.  Some people said we were the pre-season favorite to win the SB and it went to everyone's head, I think.

 

We don't know where this team is at in its career path.  What if it is 1988 right now (relative to the last regime)! 

 

We might still be 2 or 3 years away from our first SB appearance, but it might be one of 4, and we might win 3 of them.

 

I can wait, as long as the big picture stays strong.

 

 

 

[FilthyBeast]

2 minutes ago, Beast said:

You’ve made a lot of dumb comments in the past but that one takes the cake.

 

Every single GM in the NFL would have extended Allen and, rightfully so. Allen is not the problem with the Buffalo Bills. He’s actually what is right.

 

He's still young but you can't honestly believe this dude is worth $250 Million and say it with a straight face.

 

What big games has he won or carried this team on his back outside of perhaps the playoff game last year against this same Colts team?

 

Again, he's good and far from the problem here but the idol worship is laughable.

[gonzo1105]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

This is just wrong. There were some brutal losses. KC on Monday night still haunts me. 

Yea idk what this guy is taking about MNF against the Chiefs. How bout the Oilers in Houston the week before the Comeback game. The Dolphins blew us out 37-14 at home one year I believe. They got crushed by Oakland on the road like 24-3 one year. The Bills SB teams were much better than these teams but they had some stinkers as well

[Beast]

Just now, FilthyBeast said:

 

He's still young but you can't honestly believe this dude is worth $250 Million and say it with a straight face.

 

What big games has he won or carried this team on his back outside of perhaps the playoff game last year against this same Colts team?

 

Again, he's good and far from the problem here but the idol worship is laughable.

Yeah, I can say it with a straight face. He’s worth what he’s getting.

[Nextmanup]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

This is just wrong. There were some brutal losses. KC on Monday night still haunts me. 

I recall a dreadful loss at Indy (terrible team back then) as well during the SB years.  Made fans question the quality of the team at the time.

 

 

[muppy]

12 minutes ago, thronethinker said:

For All The Young Bills Fans Wanting to Put to Bed The 90s Comparisons, forget about it. The 90s teams were never  out of a game so often. The 90s teams had a killer instinct and were never out of it until the last minute. Todays team does not have that, and it is not not even close. Josh may be great, but this team as a whole is awful compared to 90-94. 

well what I would day to this thread is your opinion  this isnt a team on the calibre of the 90's teams.....But its not apples to oranges as much as you might think.  IMO you cant compare the eras and the way the NFL is Now with then......Nope sorry not buying it.   Peace.

[TwistofFate]

1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

He's still young but you can't honestly believe this dude is worth $250 Million and say it with a straight face.

 

What big games has he won or carried this team on his back outside of perhaps the playoff game last year against this same Colts team?

 

Again, he's good and far from the problem here but the idol worship is laughable.

He's no where near last year, albeit still much better than his first two years.  It just seems to me the stars need to align for him to produce consistently.  When everything is clicking he's in a zone and it looks easy.  The problem is against good teams its not going to always be clicking.  The great ones continue to find a way under pressure....Josh seems to crumble under pressure, especially when he feels the game slipping away.  That is exactly the time you need to be your best and most composed.

[auburnbillsbacker]

The 90s Bills were 9-7 in 1989.

[thronethinker]

If Josh can put together a Hot Streak this team could win it all, at this point there is no favorite. Perhaps being i second place will tell this team something. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

14 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

As a fan that was around during the 90's I've always got a kick out of such silly comparisons.

 

Allen isn't Kelly and never will be. He's a tough kid and better than most QB's we've but another dumb move by this idiot GM has put expectations and pressure on him he'll never reach and why I always felt it was laughable to extend him so soon.

 

I respect what McDermott has done here but he's not Marv Levy and never taking this team to a championship, let alone a SB and last year was just a fluke and his Dick Jauron type of moment in the playoffs.

Allen is better than Kelly as both an athlete and a QB. 

[FilthyBeast]

9 minutes ago, Governor said:

Allen is already ten times better than Kelly. It’s not close either.

 

I hope you are younger than 30 years old to make such a ridiculous statement.

 

[Ray Finkel]

17 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

There’s no comparisons to be made. This team hasn’t even made 1 Superbowl yet. As far as comparing talent level/performance, there’s no comparisons there either because the game has completely changed since the early ‘90s. 

You also never heard we need a dome.  We used the weather to our advantage.  

[Governor]

5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

I recall a dreadful loss at Indy (terrible team back then) as well during the SB years.  Made fans question the quality of the team at the time.

 

 

There might have been one but I don’t think Faulk ever got the best of us. 
 

Perhaps he did once?

 

I can’t remember every game that far back. 
 

I remember Harbough beating us. 

[Nextmanup]

1 minute ago, auburnbillsbacker said:

The 90s Bills were 9-7 in 1989.

And the miracle comeback playoff game against the Houston Oilers in 1993 was NOT A SELLOUT.

 

Some things are not always as we remember them!

 

 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

21 minutes ago, thronethinker said:

For All The Young Bills Fans Wanting to Put to Bed The 90s Comparisons, forget about it. The 90s teams were never  out of a game so often. The 90s teams had a killer instinct and were never out of it until the last minute. Todays team does not have that, and it is not not even close. Josh may be great, but this team as a whole is awful compared to 90-94. 

Nice post and I 100% agree. This team will also never find its Thurman Thomas. I know it’s a tall order because I consider Thurman to be the best RB in the NFL but we aren’t even close.

[thronethinker]

1 minute ago, auburnbillsbacker said:

The 90s Bills were 9-7 in 1989.

Ya 89 is a good staring point. This team needs to look back and see what those teams did so well, SPECIFICALLY ON SPECIAL TEAMS. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

12 minutes ago, Governor said:

There were a few games where Kelly came out and threw 3 picks in the first quarter and the game was over.

 

I don’t remember any this late in the season tho. At one point I wanted him benched. He was awful at times.

 

when Kelly was bad, he was really bad.

How about the 3-20 125 yard passing game against the Reich led Panthers. Kelly was brutal

at times. Even he admitted he only made the HOF because of the K Gun offense. 

[GunnerBill]

13 minutes ago, Beast said:

You’ve made a lot of dumb comments in the past but that one takes the cake.

 

Every single GM in the NFL would have extended Allen and, rightfully so. Allen is not the problem with the Buffalo Bills. He’s actually what is right.

 

Agree. Josh was bad today but in a list of Buffalo's "problems" he is very near the bottom if not right at the bottom of that list.

[thronethinker]

Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

Nice post and I 100% agree. This team will also never find its Thurman Thomas. I know it’s a tall order because I consider Thurman to be the best RB in the NFL but we aren’t even close.

Agreed, Thurman was the most important part of that team..

[Governor]

Just now, FilthyBeast said:

 

I hope you are younger than 30 years old to make such a ridiculous statement.

 

I’m 46 and even at a very young age I knew Kelly was never gonna get it done. I wanted him benched for Reich.

 

Turns out I was right. He “was” a low character guy that had a substance abuse problem and was a pretty awful person.

 

Kids are smart.

 

 

 

 

[BuffaloBills1998]

2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I hope you are younger than 30 years old to make such a ridiculous statement.

 

He’s right though. Allen is a way better Athlete and QB than Kelly ever was. Kelly never threw over 3,000 yards his whole career here in Buffalo. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

11 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

When was that?.....oh, last year when they didnt make it to the SB.

 

A SB Bills team that didnt make it to the SB........................................................................................rolls eyes

No - Okoye is still breaking tackles. 91 I think. kc embarrassed the bills in a prime time game. 

[Ray Finkel]

14 minutes ago, Governor said:

There were a few games where Kelly came out and threw 3 picks in the first quarter and the game was over.

 

I don’t remember any this late in the season tho. At one point I wanted him benched. He was awful at times.

 

when Kelly was bad, he was really bad.

I saw Kelly throw 3 interceptions in the first half and brought led his team back to victory.  I believe it may have been a Monday night against Cincy.  When it is not going Josh’s way it looks like he sulks on the bench.

[Governor]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

He’s right though. Allen is a way better Athlete and QB than Kelly ever was. Kelly never threw over 3,000 yards his whole career here in Buffalo. 

Of course he is. It’s not close. A better person too.

Edited November 21, 2021 by Governor

[Xwnyer]

15 minutes ago, Beast said:

You’ve made a lot of dumb comments in the past but that one takes the cake.

 

Every single GM in the NFL would have extended Allen and, rightfully so. Allen is not the problem with the Buffalo Bills. He’s actually what is right.

what is wrong is we have used alot of draft capital on Defense and ignore the heck out of the OL.  

[Nextmanup]

3 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

Nice post and I 100% agree. This team will also never find its Thurman Thomas. I know it’s a tall order because I consider Thurman to be the best RB in the NFL but we aren’t even close.

 

1 minute ago, thronethinker said:

Agreed, Thurman was the most important part of that team..

And the offensive side of NFL football hasn't changed AT ALL in the last 30 years.

Right?

 

[Beast]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

He’s right though. Allen is a way better Athlete and QB than Kelly ever was. Kelly never threw over 3,000 yards his whole career here in Buffalo. 

Ummm…….yes, Kelly threw for over 3,000 yards MULTIPLE times. Cripes.

Edited November 21, 2021 by Beast

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

If Allen is playing in bad weather he cannot rely on the running game like Kelly could. Josh needs O-Line upgrades and RB upgrades really badly.

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

For whatever reason this team is severely lacking in the resilience department. They got no testicular fortitude.