Scott7975 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 27 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: They got 10 wins last year with a rookie QB playing poorly and Fitz typically good week/bad week type of play. And when you look at their roster from top to bottom it's hard to argue they are at worse equal to the Bills minus QB. I will agree that Flores seems to be playing with fire with not only how he handled the QB position last year, but how he's all but publicly admit Tua isn't the answer with all this Watson speculation especially if they are willing to give anything close to what Houston is apparently asking for in a trade. They threw Fitz in there almost every game to get those wins. Miami is about a 6 win team IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: And when you look at their roster from top to bottom it's hard to argue they are at worse equal to the Bills minus QB. One of the most laughable statements I've seen in my time at TBD. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just now, Beast said: One of the most laughable statements I've seen in my time at TBD. Well, he is Filthy... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 How can any team give up that much asset for a human piece of 💩 who might still end up going to jail ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: They got 10 wins last year with a rookie QB playing poorly and Fitz typically good week/bad week type of play. And when you look at their roster from top to bottom it's hard to argue they are at worse equal to the Bills minus QB. I will agree that Flores seems to be playing with fire with not only how he handled the QB position last year, but how he's all but publicly admit Tua isn't the answer with all this Watson speculation especially if they are willing to give anything close to what Houston is apparently asking for in a trade. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 34 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: They got 10 wins last year with a rookie QB playing poorly and Fitz typically good week/bad week type of play. And when you look at their roster from top to bottom it's hard to argue they are at worse equal to the Bills minus QB. I will agree that Flores seems to be playing with fire with not only how he handled the QB position last year, but how he's all but publicly admit Tua isn't the answer with all this Watson speculation especially if they are willing to give anything close to what Houston is apparently asking for in a trade. What exactly do they have on offense couple of good WR’s what else ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 36 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: They got 10 wins last year with a rookie QB playing poorly and Fitz typically good week/bad week type of play. And when you look at their roster from top to bottom it's hard to argue they are at worse equal to the Bills minus QB. I will agree that Flores seems to be playing with fire with not only how he handled the QB position last year, but how he's all but publicly admit Tua isn't the answer with all this Watson speculation especially if they are willing to give anything close to what Houston is apparently asking for in a trade. Did you watch week 17? They aren’t in the same class as Buffalos backups 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Is Miami even the third best team in the afce? yes. Far and away better than the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: They weren’t even competitive against the Bills backups in a must win game. They aren’t even close I don't want to get cocky. Their GM seems to be avoiding some of the dysfunction that plagued the Phins in the 2010's and they seem to have some talent. But yeah they got spanked by Matt Barkley and the 2s in a game that they had to win to squeak into the newly created 7th playoff spot. To say that transplanting even an above average QB into that mix equaling a Super Bowl seems premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: CS, I’ll take you at you’re word as you’ve always seemed to be a fair minded guy. I just don’t know how well informed you’re scout is on the inner workings of Miami and Houston. Everything you wrote may be true. I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion Miami’s getting DW, but it’s possible. It’s also not assumed he is innocent and a $ grab. Who the heck goes to 20+ different massage therapists. That is highly abnormal for a professional athlete and a regular Joe. For people that believe in this therapy, they normally lock into 1-2 people. A solid correlation is of you believe in chiro, you normally lock into one person because you trust the person. I don’t get the 4 either. Machine, those are not my words, that is all from the MiaFins31 guy on the Dolphins fan board--the one Doc linked earlier. I have no idea if it is true or not (see my opening explanation). Just brought it here to give us a peak and for the entertainment value. However, what I found most interesting is that in some ways, he verifies our (as in TBD posters') perspective of Tua. I think he is average at best. If the Fins brain-thurst also thinks that, then a trade for Watson, even with all the baggage, may make sense. But again, not my words, just some guy named MiaFins31 on their fan board claiming to have this inside info from an anonymous scout friend. As I said, I stake no claim to its veracity. Edited August 30, 2021 by CSBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: They got 10 wins last year with a rookie QB playing poorly and Fitz typically good week/bad week type of play. And when you look at their roster from top to bottom it's hard to argue they are at worse equal to the Bills minus QB. I will agree that Flores seems to be playing with fire with not only how he handled the QB position last year, but how he's all but publicly admit Tua isn't the answer with all this Watson speculation especially if they are willing to give anything close to what Houston is apparently asking for in a trade. I would say Buffalo has a slight edge at most spots outside of OLine where Buffalo has a significant edge. Miami does undoubtedly have a good roster though and if Tua plays the way he has in the preseason, they're probably a playoff team and a legitimate threat for the division if we slip up for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, Putin said: What exactly do they have on offense couple of good WR’s what else ???? Offensive line is rock solid albeit no star type players, Gesicki is a stud TE (top 5 -8 for sure), and their RB's are at worse equal to the Bills in Gaskin/Brown vs. Motor/Moss. If anything their defense is what would concern me given the absurd talent their at just about every position but as long as JA17 keeps doing thing against them I suppose we are good. Like I mentioned before, even with a marginally improved Tua their floor should be 10 wins. They get a guy like Watson they will be a SB team (at least in the eyes of the media). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/30/brian-flores-we-want-players-with-high-character-on-the-dolphins/ Brian Flores: We want players with high character on the Dolphins Quote ...We have a high standard for the people we have in the organization. We want people with high character throughout the building.” 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/30/brian-flores-we-want-players-with-high-character-on-the-dolphins/ Brian Flores: We want players with high character on the Dolphins 🤷♂️ So...they're definitely trading for him. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Offensive line is rock solid albeit no star type players, Gesicki is a stud TE (top 5 -8 for sure), and their RB's are at worse equal to the Bills in Gaskin/Brown vs. Motor/Moss. If anything their defense is what would concern me given the absurd talent their at just about every position but as long as JA17 keeps doing thing against them I suppose we are good. Like I mentioned before, even with a marginally improved Tua their floor should be 10 wins. They get a guy like Watson they will be a SB team (at least in the eyes of the media). Sorry I stopped reading after the part about OL being rock solid !! Edited August 30, 2021 by Putin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Tua will be part of the trade package to Houston for Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Putin said: Sorry I stopped reading after the part about OL being rock solid !! Yea their oline was a mess last year still. I liked the Eichenburg pick in the draft but I believe he has been hurt a lot so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I really hope they do. 0 chance he plays this year. Some level of doubt he plays again. Dolphins have the ammo to pull it off. If the Texans get Miamis 2 1s and 2 2s in 2022 and Tua im all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea their oline was a mess last year still. I liked the Eichenburg pick in the draft but I believe he has been hurt a lot so far. Austin Jackson last year’s 1st round pick is a BUST 2nd round pick G Robert Hunt can’t crack the staring lineup , even Eichenburg was meh in the preseason and is now hurt , Lets see what happens week one in New England but my guess it won’t be pretty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, Putin said: Austin Jackson last year’s 1st round pick is a BUST 2nd round pick G Robert Hunt can’t crack the staring lineup , even Eichenburg was meh in the preseason and is now hurt , Lets see what happens week one in New England but my guess it won’t be pretty Did Eich play in the pre-season? I thought he missed all the games. Yea I did not like Jackson much (didn't hate him as much as Blokes) and I did detest Hunt. Never understood the buzz he got in the run up to that draft. As a late day 3 flier? Sure. A day 2 pick? No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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