wnyguy Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, BillStime said: Who elevated and legitimized the Taliban? WELL OF COURSE - only the best: PS: there was a reason why Trump and Pompeo cut a deal w the terrorists while the Afghan government we spent trillions building and supporting for 20 years HAD NO seat at the table… What we are seeing today is all by design. The America First GQP version can go %^*=* themselves. If this debacle was all a Trump trap then why did Biden step into it so easily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, wnyguy said: If this debacle was all a Trump trap then why did Biden step into it so easily? Because it’s more protect Joe nonsense! Nobody wanted to stay in Afghanistan…although I didn’t really care to be honest. The criticism is about the day to day strategy for HOW the current administration went about it. More Democratic revisionist bulls$&t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, wnyguy said: If this debacle was all a Trump trap then why did Biden step into it so easily? Good question. Joey should never have honored Trump's "plan," just like he hasn't honored anything else Trump implemented/planned. Edited August 20, 2021 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/biden-state-dept-has-no-idea-how-many-u-s-citizens-are-in-afghanistan/ Biden state dept has ‘no idea how many’ U.S. citizens are in Afghanistan… pfft I bet they know exactly how many conservatives are on tbd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Oh, really? These 16 Republicans voted against speeding up visas for Afghans fleeing the Taliban OH... and... where was the outrage? Trump, aides on tape laugh about Niger ambush that left 4 US soldiers dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Who elevated and legitimized the Taliban? WELL OF COURSE - only the best: PS: there was a reason why Trump and Pompeo cut a deal w the terrorists while the Afghan government we spent trillions building and supporting for 20 years HAD NO seat at the table… What we are seeing today is all by design. The America First GQP version can go %^*=* themselves. I’m not on Twitter. Is it all lies or does Twit For Brains just find the lies? The Twits love you Billsy. Carry on….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I’m not on Twitter. Is it all lies or does Twit For Brains just find the lies? The Twits love you Billsy. Carry on….. Trump adores you GQP Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Bad look for those 16, but it didn't stop the bill from passing. So who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Appalling: Biden Scrapped Trump Afghanistan Rescue Plan by Stephen Green As scenes of horror and terror continue to unfold in Kabul amid Presidentish Joe Biden’s haphazard and increasingly desperate evacuation efforts, many of us have said all week that it didn’t have to be like this. Here’s the proof. Raheem Kassam revealed on Wednesday that under President Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo’s State Department had ordered the creation of a “Contingency and Crisis Response” office whose job would be avoiding “a future Benghazi-style situation for Americans overseas.” But while Biden lied to ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on Wednesday that “We planned for every contingency,” behind the scenes, https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2021/08/19/biden-scrapped-trump-afghanistan-rescue-plan-n1470923 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Just now, B-Man said: Appalling: Biden Scrapped Trump Afghanistan Rescue Plan by Stephen Green As scenes of horror and terror continue to unfold in Kabul amid Presidentish Joe Biden’s haphazard and increasingly desperate evacuation efforts, many of us have said all week that it didn’t have to be like this. Here’s the proof. Raheem Kassam revealed on Wednesday that under President Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo’s State Department had ordered the creation of a “Contingency and Crisis Response” office whose job would be avoiding “a future Benghazi-style situation for Americans overseas.” But while Biden lied to ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on Wednesday that “We planned for every contingency,” behind the scenes, https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2021/08/19/biden-scrapped-trump-afghanistan-rescue-plan-n1470923 . Come on man!! That happened two weeks ago!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Up to 80K Americans, Afghans employed by US waiting for Kabul evacuation by Emily Crane As many as 80,000 Americans and Afghans who once worked for the US still need to be evacuated from Kabul amid the botched withdrawal that has been marred by violence and chaos. The US has evacuated 7,000 from Kabul since the Taliban seized control of Afghanistan five days ago but there are still between 60,000 and 80,000 who need to get out. That includes more than 10,000 Americans, according to CBS News. https://nypost.com/2021/08/19/up-to-80k-americans-afghans-need-to-be-evacuated-from-kabul/ Kabul chaos: ‘For me to be 10 feet from US Marines with my son, with my US passport and not being able to get through — that’s problematic’ by Emily Crane & Tamar Lapin The Biden administration on Thursday struggled to speed up evacuations of as many as 80,000 Americans and Afghan allies — with the suddenly pressing effort being marred by obstacles ranging from red tape and visa paperwork problems to massive crowds and often violent Taliban checkpoints that barred entry.Even American citizens with valid passports fear making the perilous journey to the airport for fear of the armed Taliban fighters who surround the Kabul airport.David Marshall Fox, an American who moved to Afghanistan in 2013, told The Post on Thursday that he’s abandoned hope of getting onto an evacuation flight, saying the danger of his young son getting shot https://nypost.com/2021/08/19/biden-administration-struggling-to-speed-up-afghanistan-evacuations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Pathetic. Half the world is laughing at us and the other half is pissed at us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Resident Biden to address the nation on Afghanistan was called for 1pm now 35 minutes late. this is an indication of controversy behind the scenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 and here he comes...............49 minutes late. Reminder: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 At this point, if you are backing Biden, you are the problem. The FRENCH can save their people and we don't have the capability. Impeach this loser today. Impeach them all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 "My next is Stephanie Ramos." So he has a list of reporters to call on. Embarrassing. And he still didn't answer the question 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Pre-screened questions. This guy is an embarrassment. Also, the Taliban are not our allies… this dude acts like we’re all best buds now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) When the NPR guy asks him why they didn't evacuate before closing the Air Base, Demented Biden said that they never anticipated the Afghans giving up so quickly. "They had a force of 300 persons". The look on Dopey Kamala's face was precious. Time to start 25th. WAM. Edited August 20, 2021 by Irv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Are you f***ing kidding me!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 He's deflecting again, to pretend that anyone who criticizes his regime's handling of this debacle is in favor of "staying in Afghanistan". Biden: There is no way to leave Afghanistan without seeing some of what you are seeing. Really, we could not have evacuated Americans and then withdrawn our troops? Maybe we could have not left billions $$ in weaponry to our enemies? . As he leaves a Reporter yells: "Why do you continue to trust the Taliban Mr. President?" good question 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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All_Pro_Bills Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: Kate's an idiot. Or if she believes her own bull crap maybe she can get her ass over there and walk some citizens through those Taliban checkpoints? Do you follow every moron and imbecile on Facebook? Edited August 20, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: 😂😂😂😂 Well that’s just great! He’s REALLY good at losing! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 5 hours ago, BillStime said: Trump adores you GQP Jim Awww that’s sweet I noticed you didn’t defend your Twit as not being a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Doing what the media won’t: Fact-checking Biden’s address on Afghanistan I’m relying on the White House release of Resident Joe Biden’s remarks. Shall we get right to it? CLAIM: “My national security team and I have been closely monitoring the situation on the ground in Afghanistan and moving quickly to execute the plans we had put in place to respond to every constituency, including — and contingency — including the rapid collapse we’re seeing now.” REALITY: Biden Scrapped Trump Afghanistan Rescue Plan. “Raheem Kassam revealed on Wednesday that under President Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo’s State Department had ordered the creation of a ‘Contingency and Crisis Response’ office whose job would be avoiding ‘a future Benghazi-style situation for Americans overseas.’ But while Biden lied to ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on Wednesday that ‘We planned for every contingency,’ behind the scenes, Biden’s State Department had already ‘revoked the funding and the approval’ for Trump’s response team, according to Kassam. I’d also add that had Biden planned for every contingency, things would look several hells of a lot different in Kabul right now. CLAIM: “Today, the terrorist threat has metastasized well beyond Afghanistan: al Shabaab in Somalia, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, al-Nusra in Syria, ISIS attempting to create a caliphate in Syria and Iraq and establishing affiliates in multiple countries in Africa and Asia. These threats warrant our attention and our resources.” REALITY: A token force at Bagram Air Base in no way removes our ability to keep an eye on things in Somalia, Syria, etc. Closing Bagram Air Base greatly harms our ability to keep an eye on things in Afghanistan. Closing Bagram first also drastically reduced our logistical ability to get our people out, which is why Kabul is such a mess. Also, the resulting intelligence loss greatly assisted in the rapidity of the Taliban takeover. CLAIM: “We’ve developed counterterrorism over-the-horizon capability that will allow us to keep our eyes firmly fixed on any direct threats to the United States in the region and to act quickly and decisively if needed.” REALITY: Afghanistan is landlocked deep in Central Asia. Without at least a token force at Bagram, our ability to respond quickly to fast-moving threats is much slower, and will often require the presence of an aircraft carrier battlegroup that will be kept too busy to deter China. CLAIM: “The choice I had to make, as your President, was either to follow through on [Trump’s] agreement or be prepared to go back to fighting the Taliban in the middle of the spring fighting season.” REALITY: Biden had already broken parts of Trump’s agreement. Regardless, Biden’s quick reversal of virtually every other Trump policy — from canceling border wall construction all the way down to shower head efficiency — puts lie to that claim. CLAIM: “There was only the cold reality of either following through on the agreement to withdraw our forces or escalating the conflict and sending thousands more American troops back into combat in Afghanistan, lurching into the third decade of conflict.” REALITY: Biden’s execution of his non-existent plan was so shoddy that he’s had to order 5,000 troops back into Afghanistan. While not engaged in much combat, that’s to the detriment of our people stranded outside the Kabul airport. Meanwhile, “British and French troops are going out into Kabul to rescue their citizens while the US sticks to the airport.” CLAIM: “I always promised the American people that I will be straight with you. The truth is: This did unfold more quickly than we had anticipated.” REALITY: Biden administration was warned last month of Afghanistan ‘catastrophe.’ “Conflicting with President Biden’s insistence that he had no intelligence indicating Kabul would quickly fall upon the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken received a cable in July urging that evacuations be accelerated because the Taliban was quickly gaining ground and the capital was vulnerable to collapse.” CLAIM: “It is wrong to order American troops to step up when Afghanistan’s own armed forces would not. If the political leaders of Afghanistan were unable to come together for the good of their people, unable to negotiate for the future of their country when the chips were down, they would never have done so while U.S. troops remained in Afghanistan bearing the brunt of the fighting for them.” REALITY: The token force left by Trump last year had suffered exactly one combat death. For more perspective, “In the worst year in Afghanistan, 2010, the U.S. suffered 440 troops killed in action. So far this year in Chicago, 480 people have been shot to death.” I remain in favor of pulling out of Afghanistan (except for that token forced stupidly and hurriedly ordered home by Biden), but to claim that staying would mean a bloodbath for us is a lie. CLAIM: “In the coming days, the U.S. military will provide assistance to move more SIV-eligible Afghans and their families out of Afghanistan.” REALITY: As previously noted, those most at-risk can’t be reached since Biden has ordered our troops to remain holed up at the Kabul airport. Meanwhile, “Taliban Going Door-to-Door Executing U.S. Allies” and “Taliban Find A Way to Win Over the Left: Hunting for Christians.” CLAIM: “We’ll also continue to support the safe departure of civilian personnel — the civilian personnel of our Allies who are still serving in Afghanistan. REALITY: Biden Ignored Boris Johnsons’ Frantic Calls for 36 Hours as Bungled Bugout Was Unfolding. “Not only did Presidentish Joe Biden leave UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson in the dark over ‘how it planned to withdraw [and] the pace of its withdrawal’ from Afghanistan, Biden basically ghosted Johnson for 36 hours as the crisis unfolded in Kabul.” CLAIM: “I am President of the United States of America, and the buck stops with me.” REALITY: In today’s speech and in Monday’s, “Biden points fingers for Afghanistan debacle after promising he wouldn’t ‘blame others.’” https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2021/08/20/fact-checking-bidens-address-lies-damned-lies-and-the-white-house-teleprompter-n1471356 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, BillStime said: Great, some moron named Kate agrees with you. What is her experience? Evacuating her bowels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Putting elegant in quotes (why the single quotation marks is beyond me) does not make the use of that word any less ridiculous. Twit For Brains has been on a tear lately. Edited August 20, 2021 by Chef Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Kate is full of 'elegant." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, Demongyz said: Great, some moron named Kate agrees with you. What is her experience? Evacuating her bowels? LOL From her site: Kate @ImSpeaking13 Antiracism and human rights advocate. Leadership expert, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 1 minute ago, B-Man said: LOL From her site: Kate @ImSpeaking13 Antiracism and human rights advocate. Leadership expert, Oh, so she is an expert in excrement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 9 hours ago, wnyguy said: If this debacle was all a Trump trap then why did Biden step into it so easily? Because TrumpTrumpTrumpittyTrump (...andPompeo). DUHHHHH!!! 1 hour ago, Demongyz said: Great, some moron named Kate agrees with you. What is her experience? Evacuating her bowels? Evacuating her bowels is more elegant than what's going on in Kabul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Kate's an idiot. Or if she believes her own bull crap maybe she can get her ass over there and walk some citizens through those Taliban checkpoints? Do you follow every moron and imbecile on Facebook? Better than your "reported sources" all_pro_bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, BillStime said: Better than your "reported sources" all_pro_bs In what way? Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, BillStime said: Better than your "reported sources" all_pro_bs All I'm saying is if you agree with that idiot you might want to re-evaluate your standards for evaluating and grading success and competence. Because from where I sit the entire execution (maybe a bad choice of a word here) of this exit strategy/retreat looks like a complete and total disaster of Biblical proportions. It takes an exceptionally high level of incompetence and stupidity to fail this bad. And anyone believing and suggesting this is some kind of success needs to get the loose screws in their head tightened down a couple turns. If Letterman was still on late night TV doing his top 10's this one would positively make the "top ten screw-ups of all time list". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 What a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Chef Jim said: In what way? Please explain. The funny part is that somehow Billstime was actually able to find someone who approves of this debacle. Even CNN has bailed ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Shocked - absolutely shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, BillStime said: Shocked - absolutely shocked That is such crappy spin. There's not handing out visas to just everybody from that region for good reason! They have to be careful about whole let in here from Iraq and Afghanistan, that's why it takes so long. Oh and yeah, here's this 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The funny part is that somehow Billstime was actually able to find someone who approves of this debacle. Even CNN has bailed ship! The funny part is - this is the second time you made this comment. Unlike you and your sheep - I think for my self. Idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeBills Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: The funny part is - this is the second time you made this comment. Unlike you and your sheep - I think for my self. Idiots This is me saying that I'm really glad you're/this is just one person, cause whoa if this was a movement. Scary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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