It's Time to Mandate Vaccines

[Sundancer]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

You also said "And for giving crap governments and businesses rationale to do more stuff to make my life inconvenient" when we have hit herd immunity. Govt action is not caused by people who are not vaccinated but by overzealous politicians. Also vaccinated people are not getting as sick as unvaccinated which should make the hospital situation better.

So the unvaccinated are making things worse for those in need of medical care and those working in medical care. Check. 

[BillStime]

9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Explain DC and NYC

 

 

Maybe they're still waiting for Biden's 6 month plan to end the pandemic. 

 

New York County

1,078,053 People with completed Vaccine Series

1,177,497 People with at least one Vaccine Dose

72.3% of Population with at least one Vaccine Dose

80.8% of 18+ Population with at least one Vaccine Dose

1,628,701 Total County Population

 

Washington DC

 

 

 

 

 

How many COVID-19 vaccines has Florida administered?

In Florida, 12,449,521 people or 57% of the state has received at least one dose.

Overall, 10,518,519 people or 48% of Florida's population has been fully vaccinated.

 

How many COVID-19 vaccines has Texas administered?

In Texas, 15,035,717 people or 51% of the state has received at least one dose.

Overall, 12,737,094 people or 43% of Texas's population has been fully vaccinated.

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

You couldn't find one source to back up your claim? Not one?  I'm supposed to just buy whatever you say? Someone with a history here of posting BS?

 

Really?

 

C'mon - Tucker Trump, Hannity and Laura are gonna be pissed.

 

Okay, we know where you stand on the subject.  

 

 

Thx..

I certainly could cite sources and list them one by one but I'm not wasting my time documenting them as I'm 100% certain you will automatically dismiss them.  The rest of it is called critical thinking.  You should try it.  It requires no involvement from anyone but yourself.  Its how innovation and new ideas are created.  Its the driver of progress.    

 

I see confirmed reports of 100's of thousands of immigrants being shipped around the country and combine that with other confirmed reports of high infection rates based on testing and you put 2 + 2 together.  Then you see the administration ignoring the infections while pursuing reckless polices of re-settlement of illegals and I conclude they are intentionally spreading the virus.  Either that or they are just plain stupid.  Take your pick.  Either one is bad, Intentionally spreading the virus thru acts of domestic terrorism that cause illness and death or being unfit to lead.    

 

And truth is, you have no interest in addressing my conclusions.  Because admitting I'm correct, which I am and which you never will admit, conflicts with your ideology.  And rather than accept your ideology is flawed you prefer to dismiss facts.  Instead you just want to deflect and change the discussion to an argument over sources.  Which I will not engage in.  You're following 101 basic leftist debate strategy - don't directly address anything, ask questions to deflect the argument off the topic.

Edited August 4, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills

[Big Blitz]

29 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

New York County

1,078,053 People with completed Vaccine Series

1,177,497 People with at least one Vaccine Dose

72.3% of Population with at least one Vaccine Dose

80.8% of 18+ Population with at least one Vaccine Dose

1,628,701 Total County Population

 

Washington DC

 

 

 

 

 

How many COVID-19 vaccines has Florida administered?

In Florida, 12,449,521 people or 57% of the state has received at least one dose.

Overall, 10,518,519 people or 48% of Florida's population has been fully vaccinated.

 

How many COVID-19 vaccines has Texas administered?

In Texas, 15,035,717 people or 51% of the state has received at least one dose.

Overall, 12,737,094 people or 43% of Texas's population has been fully vaccinated.

 

 

You're playing games with "TOTAL POPULATION" vs eligible population

 

 

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-tracker

 

 

Florida ages 18 to 64:   62%

Florida ages 65 + :  98%

 

New York ages 18 to 64:  71%

New York ages 65 up:  91%

 

DC:  74% and 91%

 

Texas:  62% and 91%

 

 

The differences are completely insignificant.  You'll see that across the board including the 12 to 18 year olds.  

 

And I said NYC not the state of New York:

 

63% of NYC has at least 1 dose.  Not 72%

 

NY state is at 63% at least 1 dose

Florida is at 58% at least 1 dose

 

Illinois is 48% vaccinated 

Michigan is 49% vaccinated 

 

 

Everything across the board is statistically insignificant.  

Edited August 4, 2021 by Big Blitz

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

24 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

You're playing games with "TOTAL POPULATION" vs eligible population

 

 

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-tracker

 

 

Florida ages 18 to 64:   62%

Florida ages 65 + :  98%

 

New York ages 18 to 64:  71%

New York ages 65 up:  91%

 

DC:  74% and 91%

 

Texas:  62% and 91%

 

 

The differences are completely insignificant.  You'll see that across the board including the 12 to 18 year olds.  

 

And I said NYC not the state of New York:

 

63% of NYC has at least 1 dose.  Not 72%

 

NY state is at 63% at least 1 dose

Florida is at 58% at least 1 dose

 

Illinois is 48% vaccinated 

Michigan is 49% vaccinated 

 

 

Everything across the board is statistically insignificant.  

I provided the numbers for NYC

 

 

[Big Blitz]

It May Be Impossible To Stop Spread Of Highly Infectious Delta Variant, Experts Say

 

 

With the U.S. reporting record levels of COVID cases as the Delta variant surges its way across the nation, medical experts aren’t sure the virus will ever be fully eradicated.

 

 

https://www.ibtimes.com/highly-infectious-delta-variant-could-make-it-impossible-completely-stop-spread-covid-3266268

 

 

 

What lunatics thought otherwise??

 

What the f are we doing here?  

 

This article is supposed incite more fear, I know this.  But it should be more confirmation we are done here get this shamdemic off the CNN Stop counting cases Stop fake contact tracing and stop making the New York Yankess miss 10 days because of a cold

[Niagara Bill]

Until the world gets vaccine, the variants will continue to evolve in human test tube. There is the real danger. Blame whoever you wish, CCP, trump, Fauci, Biden, Pelosi, WHO, Pfizer (you have no problem with viagra), Wuhan bats, or Putin.

So everyones job is to protect humanity.

1. Either take the vaccine or escape to your home and stay there for 3 years.

2. If you take vaccine, wear a mask everywhere when you are indoors in public and outdoors in crowds.

3. If you demand a right that doesn't exist, go fly a kite like founding father Ben and get killed by lighting. Sacrifice yourself. My generation had no right but to join an army for WW2, Korea, or Vietnam and do our duty. Now do yours.

 

 

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, Sundancer said:

So the unvaccinated are making things worse for those in need of medical care  

So are obese people, smokers, alcoholics, drug abusers, those who contracted HIV/AIDS due to promiscuous sex, etc..

I eagerly await responses on what you'd like to do about them.  

 

Edited August 4, 2021 by SCBills

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, Niagara Bill said:

 

So everyones job is to protect humanity.

 

 

 

 

No it isn't.  It's your job to protect you and your family.  

 

That includes making sure the world they're raised in isn't hiding them behind cloth that doesn't work.

 

The mask tells people "we're scared to be out here life can't go on."  Period.  That's why it's necessary for them to mask you.

 

No mask.  No fear.  No government "help."

[SCBills]

Delta Plus just dropped.  More contagious than Delta.  How exciting!

 

Lambda also making its debut.  Said to be much more vaccine resistant.  
 

Let’s goooo!!!

[dpberr]

20 minutes ago, SCBills said:

So are obese people, smokers, alcoholics, drug abusers, those who contracted HIV/AIDS due to promiscuous sex, etc..

I eagerly await responses on what you'd like to do about them.  

 

I was thinking about NYC's vax cards yesterday.  Could you imagine how many restaurants wouldn't be able to open if you flipped this around and every employee who touched a plate or the food had to be vaccinated or test negative for flu, herpes, COVID, etc.  Can we make sure the short order cook doesn't have a stomach virus each week, ok?  

 

I agree with your post though - this is where this mandate business is going.  Covax is the low hanging fruit for these folks.  Who they really want are the obese, the smokers, the HIV+, the diabetics, the alcoholics,...the ones that cost employers and by extension, health insurance companies, the $$$.

 

After covax, the next will be the obese won't be able to buy soda.  No more cigs for you if you have cancer.  If you have herpes or HIV, best of luck getting that kitchen job.  

 

Mandates come for everyone.  

[Governor]

On 8/3/2021 at 12:06 PM, Big Blitz said:

 

 

I'll ask again....

 

Who are the unvaccinated by choice harming that the vaccinated by force are not?

 

 

 

Coronavirus infections three times lower in double vaccinated people.
 

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/227713/coronavirus-infections-three-times-lower-double/

[Orlando Tim]

55 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Until the world gets vaccine, the variants will continue to evolve in human test tube. There is the real danger. Blame whoever you wish, CCP, trump, Fauci, Biden, Pelosi, WHO, Pfizer (you have no problem with viagra), Wuhan bats, or Putin.

So everyones job is to protect humanity.

1. Either take the vaccine or escape to your home and stay there for 3 years.

2. If you take vaccine, wear a mask everywhere when you are indoors in public and outdoors in crowds.

3. If you demand a right that doesn't exist, go fly a kite like founding father Ben and get killed by lighting. Sacrifice yourself. My generation had no right but to join an army for WW2, Korea, or Vietnam and do our duty. Now do yours.

 

 

You are literally insane if you think not getting vaccinated when you are young and healthy is "killing yourself". The math states that you are more likely to die by murder if you are under 25 in America then die from Covid. A  healthy 25 year old has a one in 50k chance of dying based on the numbers we are seeing. Your hysterics would be funny if not for the fact that so many politicians are using to gain power 

[Niagara Bill]

55 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

No it isn't.  It's your job to protect you and your family.  

 

That includes making sure the world they're raised in isn't hiding them behind cloth that doesn't work.

 

The mask tells people "we're scared to be out here life can't go on."  Period.  That's why it's necessary for them to mask you.

 

No mask.  No fear.  No government "help."

Sorry Blitz, just stay home or fly the kite.

Ridiculous statements like cloth doesn't work is soooo off. Doctors and nurses have worn masks for generations. So if cloth doesn't work, when your child needs surgery, let's just encourage the Dr not to mask and scrub up.

 

Telling people you are afraid is not the end of the world. Ever been to war? You are scared.

I sure hope your family never got a polio, tb, measles vaccine. Sure hope you don't need if those new fangled drugs out there, approved by theCDC.government agency. Sure hope your government does not interfere with your food supply like bacteria tests, and tests for that whisky you drink.

But of course road kill never has a best before date.

 

Enjoy your chest pounding, I enjoy the humor.

11 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

You are literally insane if you think not getting vaccinated when you are young and healthy is "killing yourself". The math states that you are more likely to die by murder if you are under 25 in America then die from Covid. A  healthy 25 year old has a one in 50k chance of dying based on the numbers we are seeing. Your hysterics would be funny if not for the fact that so many politicians are using to gain power 

You are right Timmy, as usual. You and Rhino always had the answers. You should run for office.

[716er]

45 minutes ago, dpberr said:

the obese won't be able to buy soda

 

NYC tried years ago and the conservatives filled big gulps with their own tears

Edited August 4, 2021 by 716er

[716er]

 

[SCBills]

I’ll say this… vax mandates, and the people advocating for them, are the first time - politically - that I view fellow Americans as my enemy.  

I hate that I feel this way, but polite passivity won’t work on this one.  
 

This isn’t a political disagreement.  This is Maoist classism and those perpetuating it want a society based in evil.   They want to hurt those who disagree with them.  That’s not political… that’s hate. 

 

Edited August 4, 2021 by SCBills

[RiotAct]

2 minutes ago, 716er said:

 

no political cartoon for all the non-Trump supporters who refused to get the vaccine and died?

[716er]