wppete Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: You don't sound terrified enough . . . the masses are waking up to this. Eyes 👀 wide open. Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 This has way less to do with whether the site is far left or far right, and more to do with being able to discern what constitutes a "good source" since these types of "news blogs" certainly exist on both sides. And funny enough, they are all usually run by the same groups of bad actors trying to stir the pot and create division on both sides. When you cant click through to find the actual home office location, or even names of the people that work there... it's a fake site. For more fun reading, look into dbags like Paul Horner or this fun list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Putin said: So who am I supposed to hate now Left right or center ? Can someone please point me in the right direction 🙏🏻 thank you Go Bills baby!!! You should hate manipulation/incompetence in all its forms. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 11 hours ago, purple haze said: Can most fans afford an exponential hike in ticket prices? Ultra-expensive PSL’s? I currently have decent club seats. Seeing as I normally only make one or two games a year (the others I sell to family/friends, some on ticket exchange), depending on the new stadium pricing and location of seats I feel are affordable, I may just drop my seasons when it opens. I'm right at that break point where I can afford them, but I should really use the money somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: A good chunk of that 1.4 billion is the cost of doing business, the Pegulas knew this going in, and Buffalo sure as hell should not give back any of it, like zero. The multi billionaires can build a stadium out of their own pocket, and they can afford totally afford it, if they don’t want to then tell the NFL /Pegulas to pound sand. You’ve really got to be kidding me. As I said in my previous post. SOMEONE is going to pay for a new stadium, and it isn’t going to be the Owner. Now…there’s a difference between paying for something up front and getting that money back over time. If the Pegulas pay it up front only the people who go to the games are going to pay them back. If the county or state chip in it means that payback will be spread across millions of people. You pick! (Here’s a hint…choose the second one or your tickets are going to cost a fortune!) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) Where do people find these news websites that look like they were designed in a high school computer class? Did you seek it out? Are you a subscriber? Here is the stated purpose of this "news organization": Quote We're a grassroots watchdog network connecting the dots between the world's most powerful people and organizations. Breaking news - extremely rich and well connected people hang out in the same circles. This same fallacy has been used as evidence for every conspiracy theory in history. If you connect the dots far enough you could probably make the case that the Queen of England is pushing for the Bills to move to San Antonio. It's all bad faith hatchet job nonsense. Edited August 21, 2021 by HappyDays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Where do people find these news websites that look like they were designed in a high school computer class? Did you seek it out? Are you a subscriber? Here is the stated purpose of this "news organization": Breaking news - extremely rich and well connected people hang out in the same circles. This same fallacy has been used as evidence for every conspiracy theory in history. If you connect the dots far enough you could probably make the case that the Queen of England is pushing for the Bills to move to San Antonio. It's all bad faith hatchet job nonsense. Ah yes the Build-a-Bear conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Where do people find these news websites that look like they were designed in a high school computer class? Did you seek it out? Are you a subscriber? Here is the stated purpose of this "news organization": Breaking news - extremely rich and well connected people hang out in the same circles. This same fallacy has been used as evidence for every conspiracy theory in history. If you connect the dots far enough you could probably make the case that the Queen of England is pushing for the Bills to move to San Antonio. It's all bad faith hatchet job nonsense. Well said my friend, well said!!!! 🏆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Real high dollar negotiations are normally handled within a very small group. There will be people on the fringes (that want to be seen as important and involved but really aren't) that leak things to the media or others to fortify their own self importance. Most of this leaked information is mainly speculation and mostly wrong. When you combine this with the spin purposely spread by the two sides, you have a picture that is not remotely representative of the real negotiations. I have personally been involved in many large dollar contract negotiations and have seen this pattern of misinformation play out over and over. We should all just chill and let things run their course. There are too many constituents that want and need the Bills to remain in New York. I believe that it will play out that way in the end. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: We should all just chill and let things run their course. There are too many constituents that want and need the Bills to remain in New York. I believe that it will play out that way in the end. Exactly. While it's true only a sith speaks in absolutes, here are some things that are 100% certain: The Bills will stay in Buffalo The new stadium will be partly funded by the Pegulas The new stadium will be mostly funded by the public. Is what it is. The details will get worked out and life will go on. And we'll all still be fans. Edited August 21, 2021 by DrDawkinstein 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 The only thing terrifying is the size of my stomach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, RiotAct said: well, not necessarily. Aren’t there a lot of things that they can improve on over the original Rich Stadium that they couldn’t do with a mere renovation to the existing structure? (Not having the effects of the wind amplified for one). Yes there will be improvements to get it in line with what is needed today, but you are not changing toward the future - you are taking the existing idea and placing it in a new location- hopefully with enough room to grow in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Sounds like the Peguals are using the proper channels needed to get this sort of deal approved at the state level. Walking in with bells on saying pay or im leaving doesnt seem to be whats happening. The reports coming out are all painting the Pegulas in a bad light, why? Imo the wheels are already in motion for a new stadium and whoever is on the oppsite side of it isnt happy. Sounds to me as a late effort to sway the public and hault the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 We’ve entered bizzaro world! I cannot believe that on a Bills Message Board I’d find people who oppose any public financing of a new stadium. Those comments should come from the general public who will NOT be attending games. How can this be so confusing to so many of you? There’re no free lunches in life. People who plan on attending games should want the cost spread over as many people as humanly possible! It’s not complicated. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 My goodness, whatever shall we do?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 hours ago, ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin said: Or having a building that is usable year round for other events may be an easier sell to the non football tax paying public Outdoor stadiums get used plenty. And Pegulas still own an entertainment company I assume, so you can expect concerts and stuff, at the very least. This is the most overused and misplaced argument, along with "it'll be super loud in a dome" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I could do without the underlying tone of this article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said: Yes there will be improvements to get it in line with what is needed today, but you are not changing toward the future - you are taking the existing idea and placing it in a new location- hopefully with enough room to grow in the future. In what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: Outdoor stadiums get used plenty. And Pegulas still own an entertainment company I assume, so you can expect concerts and stuff, at the very least. This is the most overused and misplaced argument, along with "it'll be super loud in a dome" As long as the concert season or tour isn't from December to March.... A dome would be an all season crown jewel in PSG Entertainment's portfolio. Maybe I am projecting a bit as Rochester lacks a sufficient indoor location for large concert tours and indoor events. I'd be happy to shuffle off to Buffalo, or Orchard Park for a great venue and offseason event. I suppose the Sabres arena may already fit the bill, but then there is booking around the Sabres to consider. Edited August 21, 2021 by ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Gregory Rousseau is terrifying people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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