ArdmoreRyno Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Buftex said: The scenario you are talking about is far different than what we have been seeing in the news recently. I have nothing against you having a gun in your home to defend your home and family. But you do outside the home and it depends on the type of weapon I can use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Buftex said: The scenario you are talking about is far different than what we have been seeing in the news recently. I have nothing against you having a gun in your home to defend your home and family. That is reasonable. But, that can be abused too. what if my disturbed offspring kills me with my "home gun" and takes it to school ? There are many many parts to this horrible situation that we are in. and the knee jerk calls for gun bans won't solve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, BillStime said: tough guy... 😂 Says someone typing on a computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: 😂 Says someone typing on a computer. Look in the frickn mirror you idiot - lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Buftex said: That was not directed at you...it was for Ardymus Ryno Who it was directed towards is irrelevant. It was the sentiment I was questioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Purchase Age: 21 Red Flag Laws: Sure Background Checks: No problem with them - when utilized properly If AR's aren't around, the kids will just post on Instagram how cool their hand guns or shot guns are. And post on FB they'll shoot up a school with them. Then they'll want them all banned. You blame the guns crowd are a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, BillStime said: I bet you sleep with your GLOCK tough guy... Not anymore. Sleep with the windows open with the guns locked away. But my past residence? Yes. Smart guy not tough guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 F"n Texas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) One suspects liberals who take to the internet to accuse Republicans of abetting infanticide aren’t really interested in compromise. Unlike Ocasio-Cortez, who champions laws that empower people to terminate the lives of the viable unborn, I don’t know of a single Republican who supports the gunning down of elementary school children. Indeed, law-abiding Americans have no obligation to take ownership of a madman’s actions. Nor is there any reason for them to surrender their right to self-defense so that Chris Murphy, who, evidenced in many of his comments, is only interested in incrementally limiting gun ownership. That’s his right, of course. He should try and repeal the Second Amendment. Edited May 25, 2022 by DRsGhost 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Purchase Age: 21 Red Flag Laws: Sure Background Checks: No problem with them - when utilized properly If AR's aren't around, the kids will just post on Instagram how cool their hand guns or shot guns are. And post on FB they'll shoot up a school with them. Then they'll want them all banned. You blame the guns crowd are a joke. Here is why the gun guys get blamed….the proposals you threw out were all blocked by gun guy legislators 8 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: One suspects liberals who take to the internet to accuse Republicans of abetting infanticide aren’t really interested in compromise. Unlike Ocasio-Cortez, who champions laws that empower people to terminate the lives of the viable unborn, I don’t know of a single Republican who supports the gunning down of elementary school children. Indeed, law-abiding Americans have no obligation to take ownership of a madman’s actions. Nor is there any reason for them to surrender their right to self-defense so that Chris Murphy, who, evidenced in many of his comments, is only interested in incrementally limiting gun ownership. That’s his right, of course. He should try and repeal the Second Amendment. This guy is a real leader….a real profile in courage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: One suspects liberals who take to the internet to accuse Republicans of abetting infanticide aren’t really interested in compromise. Unlike Ocasio-Cortez, who champions laws that empower people to terminate the lives of the viable unborn, I don’t know of a single Republican who supports the gunning down of elementary school children. Indeed, law-abiding Americans have no obligation to take ownership of a madman’s actions. Nor is there any reason for them to surrender their right to self-defense so that Chris Murphy, who, evidenced in many of his comments, is only interested in incrementally limiting gun ownership. That’s his right, of course. He should try and repeal the Second Amendment. The cult has received their talking points rather quickly... and delivered via their leading J6 spokesperson no less. You and your cult own this… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, TH3 said: Here is why the gun guys get blamed….the proposals you threw out were all blocked by gun guy legislators Did they block legislation due to those specific parts of the proposal or the proposal in total because if items in there they would not sigh off on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 45 minutes ago, BillStime said: Look in the frickn mirror you idiot - lolz I’m not calling anyone “tough guy”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: I’m not calling anyone “tough guy”. Well, Jim gets a bit excited about his big glock… but you’re “new here” and wouldn’t know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: One suspects liberals who take to the internet to accuse Republicans of abetting infanticide aren’t really interested in compromise. Unlike Ocasio-Cortez, who champions laws that empower people to terminate the lives of the viable unborn, I don’t know of a single Republican who supports the gunning down of elementary school children. Indeed, law-abiding Americans have no obligation to take ownership of a madman’s actions. Nor is there any reason for them to surrender their right to self-defense so that Chris Murphy, who, evidenced in many of his comments, is only interested in incrementally limiting gun ownership. That’s his right, of course. He should try and repeal the Second Amendment. Asking for an age increase to 21 is far from asking Americans to surrender their right to self defense. Demonizing people who think it makes no ***** sense to let an emotional 18 year old buy a gun when they can’t even buy a beer perpetuates distrust. These same “can’t give an inch” people also have ***** zero to offer on the mental health solution front. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Just now, Rockpile233 said: Asking for an age increase to 21 is far from asking Americans to surrender their right to self defense. Demonizing people who think it makes no ***** sense to let an emotional 18 year old buy a gun when they can’t even buy a beer perpetuates distrust. These same “can’t give an inch” people also have ***** zero to offer on the mental health solution front. Yeah because once someone hits the age of 21....poof!! Violent tendencies just disappear. It's amazing. Raising the age will solve nothing....NOTHING!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rockpile233 said: Asking for an age increase to 21 is far from asking Americans to surrender their right to self defense. Demonizing people who think it makes no ***** sense to let an emotional 18 year old buy a gun when they can’t even buy a beer perpetuates distrust. These same “can’t give an inch” people also have ***** zero to offer on the mental health solution front. You mean just like Chris Murphy? Compromise on what exactly? Murphy has never once offered a single proposal that would have deterred any of these mass shooters. Literally minutes after his routine, Murphy was asked about the obvious mental illness prevalent among most of these shooters. “Spare me the bullsh-t about mental illness,” the Connecticut senator responded, “ripping” the GOP. “We don’t have any more mental illness than any other country in the world.” That’s how serious he is about compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Yeah because once someone hits the age of 21....poof!! Violent tendencies just disappear. It's amazing. Raising the age will solve nothing....NOTHING!!! There is a lot of brain science on maturity extending well past teenage years more to the 25 range. I’m not trying to solve violent tendencies in adults, but to say nothing would be solved? What about Buffalo and Texas in the past two weeks? 1 minute ago, DRsGhost said: You mean just like Chris Murphy? Compromise on what exactly? Murphy has never once offered a single proposal that would have deterred any of these mass shooters. Literally minutes after his routine, Murphy was asked about the obvious mental illness prevalent among most of these shooters. “Spare me the bullsh-t about mental illness,” the Connecticut senator responded, “ripping” the GOP. “We don’t have any more mental illness than any other country in the world.” That’s how serious he is about compromise. Oh ya, the other side is worse argument. Grow up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Rockpile233 said: There is a lot of brain science on maturity extending well past teenage years more to the 25 range. I’m not trying to solve violent tendencies in adults, but to say nothing would be solved? What about Buffalo and Texas in the past two weeks? NOTHING would be solved!! They most likely would have figured a way to carry out their acts regardless of age restrictions. It's the red flag ***** we have to figure out. TikTok's algorithm can nail the kind of content I'd love but we can't put two and two together on social media posts. ***** the disinformation/censorship bull####. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc. should be involved in figuring out how to see these red flags and get them reported to the FBI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rockpile233 said: There is a lot of brain science on maturity extending well past teenage years more to the 25 range. I’m not trying to solve violent tendencies in adults, but to say nothing would be solved? What about Buffalo and Texas in the past two weeks? Oh ya, the other side is worse argument. Grow up. Oh I'm not saying that they're worse. Well some of them are, the commies and all. But by and large dems and Republicans suck equally on this issue, just like most others. I merely showed evidence of one of the guys offering no solutions who eschewed the mental health angle as well. Happens to be a Democrat. They all suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: NOTHING would be solved!! They most likely would have figured a way to carry out their acts regardless of age restrictions. It's the red flag ***** we have to figure out. TikTok's algorithm can nail the kind of content I'd love but we can't put two and two together on social media posts. ***** the disinformation/censorship bull####. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc. should be involved in figuring out how to see these red flags and get them reported to the FBI. I will have to respectfully disagree. If you think these two Ill teenagers could have successfully built some sort of bomb or killed that many people with a hunting knife or stolen a gun….well even then you at least made it a little harder and threw up some speedbump without burdening any other gun owners. I agree with you on the rest, but you’re venturing into privacy rights now. Slippery slope! 2 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: Oh I'm not saying that they're worse. Well some of them are, the commies and all. But by and large dems and Republicans suck equally on this issue, just like most others. I merely showed evidence of one of the guys offering no solutions who eschewed the mental health angle as well. Happens to be a Democrat. They all suck. I have long accepted that if you are anywhere in politics you are likely a huge POS. What saddens me is how many of us regular people refuse to honestly engage the subject. Mental health is a part as is gun access as are countless other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: You mean just like Chris Murphy? Compromise on what exactly? Murphy has never once offered a single proposal that would have deterred any of these mass shooters. Literally minutes after his routine, Murphy was asked about the obvious mental illness prevalent among most of these shooters. “Spare me the bullsh-t about mental illness,” the Connecticut senator responded, “ripping” the GOP. “We don’t have any more mental illness than any other country in the world.” That’s how serious he is about compromise. Denying a mental health crisis exists.... 2 years after taking normal childhoods away......everyone is mentally sound. This kid (correct the record please) failed High School. Was trans. Killed his grandma. Posted about all of it because these kids think that's all that matters - likes and followers. All is well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Denying a mental health crisis exists.... 2 years after taking normal childhoods away......everyone is mentally sound. This kid (correct the record please) failed High School. Was trans. Killed his grandma. Posted about all of it because these kids think that's all that matters - likes and followers. All is well. If only this logic made sense and the United States was the only country on the globe to experience COVID. smfh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Denying a mental health crisis exists.... 2 years after taking normal childhoods away......everyone is mentally sound. This kid (correct the record please) failed High School. Was trans. Killed his grandma. Posted about all of it because these kids think that's all that matters - likes and followers. All is well. My wife has been in pediatrics for 20 years. The spike she's witnessed in teens with mental health issues is astounding. There aren't enough mental health professionals to keep up. Patients that she sends for referrals often have to wait months to be seen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, DRsGhost said: My wife has been in pediatrics for 20 years. The spike she's witnessed in teens with mental health issues is astounding. There aren't enough mental health professionals to keep up. Patients that she sends for referrals often have to wait months to be seen. So why did Trump make it easier for the mentally ill to acquire guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: My wife has been in pediatrics for 20 years. The spike she's witnessed in teens with mental health issues is astounding. There aren't enough mental health professionals to keep up. Patients that she sends for referrals often have to wait months to be seen. My wife has been an RN for a foster children agency and I can verify that this is true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Greg Abbott Brings More Clarity and Comfort After a Tragedy Than Joe Biden Ever Could FTA: Prayer works because you focus on what is beyond you, rather than what is. Greg Abbott understood to focus the community of Uvalde and all Americans on that prayer, give them clarity about the situation at hand, but offer comfort and love as they process and deal with things that will not be clear for a long time. This is the antithesis of the mockery, sneering, and self-serving agenda resident in Biden’s speech. The crucible of tragedy makes or breaks leaders. We now know which one is forged, and which one is broken. https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2022/05/25/de-facto-president-greg-abbott-brings-more-clarity-and-comfort-than-joe-biden-ever-could-n569969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Rockpile233 said: I will have to respectfully disagree. If you think these two Ill teenagers could have successfully built some sort of bomb or killed that many people with a hunting knife or stolen a gun….well even then you at least made it a little harder and threw up some speedbump without burdening any other gun owners. I agree with you on the rest, but you’re venturing into privacy rights now. Slippery slope! Fair enough on the speed bumps but age restriction is likely going to accomplish the least of all the other options. Regarding the second part. Not sure about privacy rights. Posts on FB/Twitter/Instagram/Here are public domain no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Society is just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 up and got this from I lremember aschool attack=s in China. Looked it and got this from wikipedia, "A series of uncoordinated mass stabbings, hammer attacks, and cleaver attacks in the People's Republic of China began in March 2010. The spate of attacks left at least 90 dead and some 473 injured. As most cases had no known motive, analysts have blamed mental health problems caused by rapid social change for the rise in these kinds of mass murderand murder-suicide incidents." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Greg Abbott Brings More Clarity and Comfort After a Tragedy Than Joe Biden Ever Could FTA: Prayer works because you focus on what is beyond you, rather than what is. Greg Abbott understood to focus the community of Uvalde and all Americans on that prayer, give them clarity about the situation at hand, but offer comfort and love as they process and deal with things that will not be clear for a long time. This is the antithesis of the mockery, sneering, and self-serving agenda resident in Biden’s speech. The crucible of tragedy makes or breaks leaders. We now know which one is forged, and which one is broken. https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2022/05/25/de-facto-president-greg-abbott-brings-more-clarity-and-comfort-than-joe-biden-ever-could-n569969 Awe, REDSTATE told Bonnie something they KNEW he would love... lolz Meanwhile, the Governor of Texas: It could have been worse... Screams comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Denying a mental health crisis exists.... 2 years after taking normal childhoods away......everyone is mentally sound. This kid (correct the record please) failed High School. Was trans. Killed his grandma. Posted about all of it because these kids think that's all that matters - likes and followers. All is well. there’s no evidence he was trans that’s that echo chamber that has rotted your ***** brain again. Honestly the ***** you write here I am surprised you can operate a phone or computer. You’re an idiot of the highest degree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aristocrat Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Fair enough on the speed bumps but age restriction is likely going to accomplish the least of all the other options. Regarding the second part. Not sure about privacy rights. Posts on FB/Twitter/Instagram/Here are public domain no? something like 70 percent of mass shootings are done by teenagers. Gangs ,school shootings all of them. Tie that to bad family situations, mental health and all of it. Raise the age limit. Also lock the schools down more. More red flag laws for mental illness. Get rid of straw buyers that are how the gangs commit so many of these Murders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Denying a mental health crisis exists.... 2 years after taking normal childhoods away......everyone is mentally sound. This kid (correct the record please) failed High School. Was trans. Killed his grandma. Posted about all of it because these kids think that's all that matters - likes and followers. All is well. If you want to blame covid lockdown and less government school institutionalization, then you are saying you think the government should raise our kids more. Is that what you want? selectively assigning your political target events to these sort of tragedies is disingenuous at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: If you want to blame covid lockdown and less government school institutionalization, then you are saying you think the government should raise our kids more. Is that what you want? selectively assigning your political target events to these sort of tragedies is disingenuous at best. What political target? The f....ing world thought it was a good idea (plan) to lockdown. If that is my "political target" yes absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Texas school shooting: Loved ones outside school begged police to go inside during shooting: 'Go in there!' The shooter, Salvador Ramos, was likely in the building between 40 minutes and and hour, officials say Witnesses said that loved ones and onlookers anxiously waiting outside Robb Elementary School on Tuesday as the gunman was inside shooting teachers and students urged police who were outside the school to go in and try to stop the shooter. Some also suggested they take it upon themselves to attempt to overpower the gunman. "Go in there! Go in there!" a woman shouted to officers soon after the shooting happened, witness Juan Carranza, 24, said. He lives across the street from the school. "There were more of them. There was just one of him," he said. But he said the officers stayed outside. He said he suggested a group of civilians "rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to. More could have been done. They were unprepared." His daughter, Jacklyn Cazares, died in the attack. https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-school-shooting-loved-ones-onlookers-outside-urged-police-go-inside Good grief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 12 hours ago, Chef Jim said: NOTHING would be solved!! They most likely would have figured a way to carry out their acts regardless of age restrictions. It's the red flag ***** we have to figure out. TikTok's algorithm can nail the kind of content I'd love but we can't put two and two together on social media posts. ***** the disinformation/censorship bull####. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc. should be involved in figuring out how to see these red flags and get them reported to the FBI. That would flag the entire Alphabet community as having mental issues, (which medically it is). How about Scientologists? Flat-Earthers? Peta? It's not as easy as just preventing crazy people from getting guns, because almost everyone has some sort of psychosis. We're back to drawing a line on where that is, similar to abortion. One side wants a complete ban, while the other wants unfettered access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 11 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Fair enough on the speed bumps but age restriction is likely going to accomplish the least of all the other options. Regarding the second part. Not sure about privacy rights. Posts on FB/Twitter/Instagram/Here are public domain no? Second part was sarcasm, yes that would be free game. You may not be far off the mark with identifying certain high risk individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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