Texas (again)

[Doc]

7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

A bigoted, misandristic political ad suggesting a person defined by both race and gender is apparently responsible for all societal ills and may come to burn you out of your home and much, much worse….coming from residents of a deeply southern state.
 

History repeats, and this ad has a very creepy, almost robotic Stepford Wives vibe to it.

 

And they're mocking someone with a disability!

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

13 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

And they're mocking someone with a disability!

In the old days, these people would meet in secret, at night, probably in the barn of the maga lady-rancher’s climate-destroying ranch, to discuss ways to dispatch what they call in the ad the “white politician”.  
 

Now, it’s a mainstream topic.  

[Tiberius]

46 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

A bigoted, misandristic political ad suggesting a person defined by both race and gender is apparently responsible for all societal ills and may come to burn you out of your home and much, much worse….coming from residents of a deeply southern state.
 

History repeats, and this ad has a very creepy, almost robotic Stepford Wives vibe to it. 
 

 

?

History is repeating itself? How? 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

39 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

History is repeating itself? How? 

Well, it’s pretty straight forward, really.  
 

You have a number of people making highly inflammatory remarks about a particular race.  At roughly 1:18 of the screed, they specifically mention “white politicians” as those coming to burn books, coming after children, and burning homes and crosses on lawns. 
 

Replace “white” with any of the following, and do it in an accent from the protagonists from “Mississippi Burning” and you tell me:

Jewish. Black. Indian. Catholic.  Hispanic. And so on. 

As far as history repeating itself, we all know and agree there are small-minded, ignorant and hateful people in the world who will target a millions of people they find “undesirable”.   You probably voted for one a few years back. 

The biggest challenge isn’t the hater delivering the message, it’s when people like you offer up this sort of thing as normal and appropriate, completely oblivious to the destructive messaging contained therein.  
 

As I said, history repeats. 
 

 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Well, it’s pretty straight forward, really.  
 

You have a number of people making highly inflammatory remarks about a particular race.  At roughly 1:18 of the screed, they specifically mention “white politicians” as those coming to burn books, coming after children, and burning homes and crosses on lawns. 
 

Replace “white” with any of the following, and do it in an accent from the protagonists from “Mississippi Burning” and you tell me:

Jewish. Black. Indian. Catholic.  Hispanic. And so on. 

As far as history repeating itself, we all know and agree there are small-minded, ignorant and hateful people in the world who will target a millions of people they find “undesirable”.   You probably voted for one a few years back. 

The biggest challenge isn’t the hater delivering the message, it’s when people like you offer up this sort of thing as normal and appropriate, completely oblivious to the destructive messaging contained therein.  
 

As I said, history repeats. 
 

 

What history are you referring to? I mean can you be specific, what was that commercial like from the past? 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

8 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

What history are you referring to? I mean can you be specific, what was that commercial like from the past? 

No, these people would have been too young to be in commercials in the 1950s Tibs. Hard to say if they were even born. 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

No, these people would have been too young to be in commercials in the 1950s Tibs. Hard to say if they were even born. 

 

 

 

So nothing then? I thought so. 

 

Very bad use of historical comparisons by you. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

35 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So nothing then? I thought so. 

 

Very bad use of historical comparisons by you. 

That’s what the mob supporting bigotry always says, Tibs.  Congrats, you’re a useful idiot.  

[Wacka]

And they say  republicans are Nazis?

[Tiberius]

30 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

That’s what the mob supporting bigotry always says, Tibs.  Congrats, you’re a useful idiot.  

What mob? Why the insult? 

 

Did I show your argument to be totally silly? 

 

 

 

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

What mob? Why the insult? 

 

Did I show your argument to be totally silly? 

 

 

 

 

 

Insults?  You called me an idiot and a loser just recently when I attempted respectful dialogue with you.  
 

Were those comments from you just friendly love-nubbins?  It’s hard to tell when a poster is awash in hypocrisy from one post to the next. 
 

I can’t rehash a few hundred years of American history and the dangers of extremists targeting people regardless of color, even though you find it fashionable to target the white people you don’t like.  
 

There are ways for angry moms, purportedly from Texas, to campaign and crusade against white politicians without suggesting that Abbott is coming to their town to hand their children,  burn books and stage KKK murder and burn parties in their neighborhoods.   
 

The problem is, if the angry moms purportedly from

Texas avoid using over the top and hateful rhetoric, all they have is an argument against policy that they tend to lose in Texas. Remember Tibs, Texas Mom! spelled upside down is Texas Wow!, but only if you leave Texas out of it. 
 

 You’re the guy wanting specifics….when has Governor Abbott ever been charged, arrested or convicted for any crime causing harm to children or burning crosses or burning down houses?  
 

 

[BuffaninSarasota]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

What mob? Why the insult? 

 

Did I show your argument to be totally silly? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“Pregnant person” ……smfh 

[Tiberius]

17 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Insults?  You called me an idiot and a loser just recently when I attempted respectful dialogue with you.  
 

Were those comments from you just friendly love-nubbins?  It’s hard to tell when a poster is awash in hypocrisy from one post to the next. 
 

I can’t rehash a few hundred years of American history and the dangers of extremists targeting people regardless of color, even though you find it fashionable to target the white people you don’t like.  
 

There are ways for angry moms, purportedly from Texas, to campaign and crusade against white politicians without suggesting that Abbott is coming to their town to hand their children,  burn books and stage KKK murder and burn parties in their neighborhoods.   
 

The problem is, if the angry moms purportedly from

Texas avoid using over the top and hateful rhetoric, all they have is an argument against policy that they tend to lose in Texas. Remember Tibs, Texas Mom! spelled upside down is Texas Wow!, but only if you leave Texas out of it. 
 

 You’re the guy wanting specifics….when has Governor Abbott ever been charged, arrested or convicted for any crime causing harm to children or burning crosses or burning down houses?  
 

 

One mention of white politicians white washing history, which they are doing. That's just truth. The rest of your complaining is just pure whining. 

 

That an ad like that would so trigger you shows the need for these people to stay active and get out the vote. 

14 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

“Pregnant person” ……smfh 

Oh, the horror! 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

29 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

One mention of white politicians white washing history, which they are doing. That's just truth. The rest of your complaining is just pure whining. 

 

That an ad like that would so trigger you shows the need for these people to stay active and get out the vote. 

 

You haven’t provided the specifics about Gov Abbott and him burning out families.  It’s weird because you asked for specifics on the very well-established problems with intolerance and division yesterday, but now you’re quiet as a church mouse.  
 

You’re so wrapped up in virtue signaling that you are completely obliviously the obvious signs of divisiveness, racial intolerance and stereotyping.    People like you are why people like them thrive, and always have.  Different boogeyman, different target, same hatred.  
 

 

[BuffaninSarasota]

43 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

One mention of white politicians white washing history, which they are doing. That's just truth. The rest of your complaining is just pure whining. 

 

That an ad like that would so trigger you shows the need for these people to stay active and get out the vote. 

Oh, the horror! 

it's not that difficult Tibs - it's called a mother; you know, someone who gives birth ..... no need for the leftist word salad

[Tiberius]

10 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

it's not that difficult Tibs - it's called a mother; you know, someone who gives birth ..... no need for the leftist word salad

 

10 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

it's not that difficult Tibs - it's called a mother; you know, someone who gives birth ..... no need for the leftist word salad

Just let it go, it won't hurt you. Getting triggered over nothing is silly 

14 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You haven’t provided the specifics about Gov Abbott and him burning out families.  It’s weird because you asked for specifics on the very well-established problems with intolerance and division yesterday, but now you’re quiet as a church mouse.  
 

You’re so wrapped up in virtue signaling that you are completely obliviously the obvious signs of divisiveness, racial intolerance and stereotyping.    People like you are why people like them thrive, and always have.  Different boogeyman, different target, same hatred.  
 

 

So white politicians white washing history can't be called out for it, because THAT would be racist? Tail chasing at it's finest

 

As to the buring out families, I mean you would agree that when communities get targeted by gun nuts and massacres take place, people will feel like they are getting burned out, correct? If the governor simply wants to falsely praise the cowardly police and then make it easier for crazy racists to get guns, people will feel targeted. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

6 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

Just let it go, it won't hurt you. Getting triggered over nothing is silly 

So white politicians white washing history can't be called out for it, because THAT would be racist? Tail chasing at it's finest

 

As to the buring out families, I mean you would agree that when communities get targeted by gun nuts and massacres take place, people will feel like they are getting burned out, correct? If the governor simply wants to falsely praise the cowardly police and then make it easier for crazy racists to get guns, people will feel targeted. 

Right.  I’m stating unequivocally that when one party targets people by race, implies they are guilty of heinous crimes and a threat to the children of another group, and does so for social and political gain, it’s a very bad thing.  It was always bad, but when people support the people who do it….

 

You should know that, and you do, because I’ve seen other posts you’ve shared, but you’re willing to make an exception for your own benefit.  
 

As for guns, gun nuts and the like, I haven’t seen one sensible human being equate Gov Abbot and his whiteness to hate crimes of the kkk.  I’ve seen the Some Random Moms of Texas, and you.  
 

 

 

[Tiberius]

17 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Right.  I’m stating unequivocally that when one party targets people by race, implies they are guilty of heinous crimes and a threat to the children of another group, and does so for social and political gain, it’s a very bad thing.  It was always bad, but when people support the people who do it….

 

You should know that, and you do, because I’ve seen other posts you’ve shared, but you’re willing to make an exception for your own benefit.  
 

As for guns, gun nuts and the like, I haven’t seen one sensible human being equate Gov Abbot and his whiteness to hate crimes of the kkk.  I’ve seen the Some Random Moms of Texas, and you.  
 

 

 

But if white politicians are white washing history to erase the crimes of the past, then its not bad to call them out. 

 

The ad was fine. Your overreactions says a lot though. 

[BillStime]

 

[Tiberius]

11 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

That's seriously messed up. 

 

On top of that this country actually needs more workers, and they want to work! 

[Doc]

No, the blame is all on Joke.  And Hispanics see it and are starting to turn.

Edited October 4, 2022 by Doc

[ArdmoreRyno]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

 

Completely ridiculous. 22 veterans a day take their life... which is horrible (my daughter and I have helped raise money for awareness the past 10+ years and suicide has touched my family first hand). It has nothing to do with the Governor. Over 100 Guardsmen have taken their life over the past year, across the country. We going to blame that on those governors too? 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

That's seriously messed up. 

 

On top of that this country actually needs more workers, and they want to work! 

The basic concept seems to keep alluding your here. Yes, everyone knows that the vast majority of these people are coming here to work. That’s not the issue. It can’t really be that confusing to you….or is it? 

[BillStime]

3 hours ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Completely ridiculous. 22 veterans a day take their life... which is horrible (my daughter and I have helped raise money for awareness the past 10+ years and suicide has touched my family first hand). It has nothing to do with the Governor. Over 100 Guardsmen have taken their life over the past year, across the country. We going to blame that on those governors too? 

 

 

Well who cut their benefits and pay?

[ArdmoreRyno]

16 hours ago, BillStime said:

Well who cut their benefits and pay?

 

Dude, National Guard pay is set by what active duty and reserves get paid. It's all the same, just depends on how much time you are doing it. 3 day drill will get paid the same per day as the 2 week AT... or when you're activated for state side service. I've been activated a couple of times for state side work. Benefits, like bonuses, are based off what is in the budget for that MOS. 

 

Again, over 100 ANG have taken their life over the past year in all states. Is it Newsom's fault for the National Guardsman suicide 3 weeks ago in California? 

 

[BillStime]

3 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Dude, National Guard pay is set by what active duty and reserves get paid. It's all the same, just depends on how much time you are doing it. 3 day drill will get paid the same per day as the 2 week AT... or when you're activated for state side service. I've been activated a couple of times for state side work. Benefits, like bonuses, are based off what is in the budget for that MOS. 

 

Again, over 100 ANG have taken their life over the past year in all states. Is it Newsom's fault for the National Guardsman suicide 3 weeks ago in California? 

 

 

Texas National Guard struggles to pay soldiers

 

As Gov. Greg Abbott mobilizes thousands of Texas National Guard troops to assist with his border initiative known as Operation Lone Star, the state has struggled to pay soldiers on time while slashing their tuition assistance benefits, raising concerns about morale in the 19,000-member force.

 

Texas lawmakers deplore mistreatment of National Guardsmen sent to border duty

 

Legislative leaders overseeing the Texas Military Department say they are looking into reports of suicides, habitual pay problems and poor working conditions on Gov. Greg Abbott's highly touted border mission.

 

Abbott Fails The Texas Guard

 

Gov. Greg Abbott’s border initiative known as Operation Lone Star continues to nurture a dystopian environment as the Texas National Guard troops watch their fellow colleagues commit suicide, and at the same time, suffer the consequences of getting their benefits slashed or their salary delayed.

 

 

[Doc]

5 hours ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

Dude, National Guard pay is set by what active duty and reserves get paid. It's all the same, just depends on how much time you are doing it. 3 day drill will get paid the same per day as the 2 week AT... or when you're activated for state side service. I've been activated a couple of times for state side work. Benefits, like bonuses, are based off what is in the budget for that MOS. 

 

Again, over 100 ANG have taken their life over the past year in all states. Is it Newsom's fault for the National Guardsman suicide 3 weeks ago in California?

 

D'oh!  There goes another lie.

[B-Man]

 

 

The city of Uvalde, which was put on the map when Salvador Ramos massacred 19 children and 2 adults, has just suspended it’s entire police force.

 

Via ABC News: https://abcnews.go.com/US/uvalde-school-district-suspends-entire-police-force-fallout/story?id=91172897

 

The Uvalde, Texas, school district — still facing withering criticism over its police department’s failings both during the May 24 elementary school massacre and since — announced the suspension of the entire district police force on Friday.

 

The district said it’s requested more Texas Department of Public Safety troopers to be stationed on campuses and at extra-curricular activities, adding, “We are confident that staff and student safety will not be compromised during this transition.” …

 

 

 

Given the horrible police response to the massacre, I can’t say as I blame them.

[Tiberius]

 

[JDHillFan]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Beto hat trick coming up. It can’t be easy on a guy to flame out in senate, presidential, and gubernatorial elections. All my best to Beto! My Beto best!

[ArdmoreRyno]

27 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Beto hat trick coming up. It can’t be easy on a guy to flame out in senate, presidential, and gubernatorial elections. All my best to Beto! My Beto best!

 

Dude is a moron... major moron. 

[BillStime]

You get what you vote for Texas - idiots 
 

 

[BillStime]

Hello Libs of TikTok?  No comment?

 

 

[BillStime]

 

[LeviF]

Noooooo don't bear children to grow and thrive in stable homes import millions of third world criminals (who reeeeeaaaalllly want to work, pinky promise!) instead!

 

 

[BillStime]

 

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

 

[SCBills]

On 10/4/2022 at 1:27 PM, Doc said:

No, the blame is all on Joke.  And Hispanics see it and are starting to turn.

 

Hispanics are far more ideologically aligned with Republicans than Democrats.   It’s starting to show in recent years. 
 

 

[Tiberius]

Oh, this will help things....

 

As everyone knows, there is no more effective way to shape the behavior of young people than through state-mandated posters on their classroom walls. At least that’s what Republicans in the Texas legislature seem to believe, which is why they’re advancing a bill requiring the posting of the Ten Commandments in every public school classroom in the state.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/09/texas-legislature-christian-nationalism-ten-commandments/

[DrW]

All Texans, independent of their political affiliation, should appreciate that the Republican-dominated Texas House of Representatives finally had enough of the shenanigans of Republican state Attorney General Ken Paxton and voted to impeach him over allegations of illegal activities related to one of his political donors. 

Not really unexpected, Donald Trump posted on social media that Paxton is a friend of his and that he would "fight" Republicans who allow the impeachment to proceed. Well, this now puts Trump against a lot of Texas Republicans.