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18 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said:

 

He's probably already steered his tugboat in that direction, ready to save the day.

Suez is a one-way street.  They take turns going in opposite directions... Is there an "emergency lane" if they gotta enter on the traffic side? 😉

29 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

Suez is sea level too (no locks)... It's one-direction at a time too... 

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3 minutes ago, Doc said:

That looks deliberate.

Why would Japan?  Japanese owner apologized:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-56522178

 

The Dutch on the scene! Shout Out to:

@BringBackFergy

@Beerball

@Gugny

@Mike in Horseheads

@Seasons1992

All my usual Peeps... Sure doesn't look like they can just send a tug to the rescue! /smh...

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"A flotilla of eight tug boats resumed efforts to move the Ever Given at high tide on Thursday morning after stopping overnight, Egyptian officials said.

Dredgers and diggers have also been clearing sand and mud away from the bow of the vessel, which is sitting on the side of the canal.

The head of a Netherlands-based salvage company assisting the operation warned that it could take weeks to dislodge the boat and that containers might have to be lifted off to lighten its load.

"We can't exclude it might take weeks, depending on the situation," Peter Berdowski, the CEO of Boskalis, told the Dutch TV station NPO."

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How da Efe would they offload containers?  Helicopter?

2 hours ago, TBBills said:

All the illegal drugs and guns being held up by this cargo ship... Unreal and those poor immigrants stuck in the cargo holds... Will they still be alive?

The other group looks like it's going around The Cape to get to Western Europe 🇪🇺... Taking its chances past Somalia 🇸🇴 & the pirates ☠!! 

 

ARGH matey!

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1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

I’m obviously not very familiar with the area, but the initial reports stated high winds as the cause. Yet the reports list the wind gusts as 30MPH. Are those actually high in that part of the world? That certainly isn’t exceptionally high in the Northeast US 

Yeah... The bow is stuck.  They have bow thrusters to keep things stable.  Surprised they didn't have tug escort being 400m long AND windy conditions... BUT it's Egypt  🇪🇬 and do you want the cost of your new LED TV going up! 😉

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2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Why would Japan?  Japanese owner apologized:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-56522178

 

The Dutch on the scene! Shout Out to:

@BringBackFergy

@Beerball

@Gugny

@Mike in Horseheads

@Seasons1992

All my usual Peeps... Sure doesn't look like they can just send a tug to the rescue! /smh...

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"A flotilla of eight tug boats resumed efforts to move the Ever Given at high tide on Thursday morning after stopping overnight, Egyptian officials said.

Dredgers and diggers have also been clearing sand and mud away from the bow of the vessel, which is sitting on the side of the canal.

The head of a Netherlands-based salvage company assisting the operation warned that it could take weeks to dislodge the boat and that containers might have to be lifted off to lighten its load.

"We can't exclude it might take weeks, depending on the situation," Peter Berdowski, the CEO of Boskalis, told the Dutch TV station NPO."

You are in your element here, finally. When are you shipping out to Suez?

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1 hour ago, Beerball said:

You are in your element here, finally. When are you shipping out to Suez?

Yes.  🤣🤣No. But we have internet... 😁 There's no locks on the Suez.  It's just a sea level ditch AND my first job with the Corps was a hydrographic surveyor.  Taking soundings  (depth readings, as you probably know) for dredging operations on the Eastern Great Lakes, also QA for construction on the Presque Isle erosion control project in late 1980s/early 1990s.  Yes "depth" is my game.  

 

Yes... Dredge operations and construction, soundings is my lane, believe it or not! 😃😊 Digging and measuring... And pushing buttons. 😉😉

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5 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

@ExiledInIllinois, do you know if they have already offloaded ballast tanks/fuel to lighten the ship for high tide? Thought I read somewhere that would be 1st step with the tugs before offloading the containers as last resort? 

Not sure.  Is there tides in the canal?  Gotta be, right... ??

 

They said 200,000 tons, those gotta be loads, loaded containers. . So I would imagine there's no ballast?  I think I read it was going North to Amsterdam.  Coming from the Pacific Rim, right?

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On 3/25/2021 at 10:31 AM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yeah... The bow is stuck.  They have bow thrusters to keep things stable.  Surprised they didn't have tug escort being 400m long AND windy conditions... BUT it's Egypt  🇪🇬 and do you want the cost of your new LED TV going up! 😉

That's one big weathervane.    Was that the same wing that knocked down our fearless leader 3x?

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10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Yes to tides.  Were apparently hoping that high tide today would do the trick:

 

 

 

Yes!  But it may be like waiting for the Sabres to score, even worse,  win a game! 😉

 

Looks like they are screwed in Egypt.  Suez is only @ 30° N.

 

The tides at the lower latitudes in the Northern Hemisphere are not as pronounced as the are at higher latitudes... That is what I meant...

 

"In the higher latitudes of the northern hemisphere, the continents of North America, Europe, and Asia are pressed closer together. This “constriction” of the oceans creates the effect of a higher range of tides."

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Lotta things in play... Here's a map.  Confirms my hunch that the Suez Canal has low pronounced tidal variation:

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Blue is low, red high tidal variation

47 minutes ago, Beerball said:

Anything posted in this thread by someone not named @ExiledInIllinois is pure bunk.  Go to the source of nowlege people.

Stay in your lane people!  😆🤣😂

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15 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yes!  But it may be like waiting for the Sabres to score, even worse,  win a game! 😉

 

Looks like they are screwed in Egypt.  Suez is only @ 30° N.

 

The tides at the lower latitudes in the Northern Hemisphere are not as pronounced as the are at higher latitudes... That is what I meant...

 

"In the higher latitudes of the northern hemisphere, the continents of North America, Europe, and Asia are pressed closer together. This “constriction” of the oceans creates the effect of a higher range of tides."

 

They're saying there's a "Spring tide" with 18" variation expected Monday so they're hoping maybe then

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1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

They're saying there's a "Spring tide" with 18" variation expected Monday so they're hoping maybe then

That's not bad! But, that's a BIG boat! I wonder if Moses had knowledge of that way back when?  😉

 

If you look closely at the map of the world tides... It looks like it's more pronounced @ Suez... Anyway, the boat is stuck inland, wonder what the effect is?

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8 hours ago, Doc said:

Trouble in the Suezzzzz...

"We didn't start the fire
It was always burning, since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No, we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it..."

 

Anyway... It may have been human error:

 

https://nypost.com/2021/03/28/human-error-may-be-behind-ship-blocking-suez-canal-authorities/amp/

 

Blame the Indians... The whole crew I believe is being worked by Indian Nationals... You think 🤔... ??? Ain't just call centers folks? Cheapest labor wins!

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20 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

Obviously they can't remove containers but I hope they at least de-fueled and removed whatever ballast items that are reachable. 

Wasn't the load acting as ballast?  Why would there be anything else acting as ballast other than fuel?

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