BillsShredder83 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 17 hours ago, HOUSE said: Lol dsmn never saw Marv fired up, I'm a little young to remember him actively coaching. What the hell was the question 😳 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Man needs to at least make a Super Bowl to even get this type of thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Correction on the Super Bowl coaching comments about Levy... Marv was NASTILY out coached in SB25 (Thurman only 15 carries in the game v.s a 2-5-4 defense) but those 91 Redskins and the 92 Cowboys were 2 of the leagues all time great teams and in no way did the Bills have a chance. The final Cowboy game was lost on turning the ball over and the inability to stop the run on D, not coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I am surprised their is no love for Kay Stephenson and Hank Bullough . If were judging it by success than Lou Saban is the best coach in Bills history. Back to back AFL championships in 64 and 65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Do grown men really need to be told to “rest up, you have a big day tomorrow!”. No. No they do not. Did they? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 16 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Already has imo...But then again, I don’t really view Marv as a great coach...sorry guys... "Coach" is a loaded definition IMO McDermott's ability to develop a staff and develop players is unquestionably top notch His ability to create and drive the organizational direction and also uphold this standard is also second to none. Will this translate into winning a super bowl? I think it will. And don't I think this even be close debate once all the chips have fallen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said: Lol dsmn never saw Marv fired up, I'm a little young to remember him actively coaching. What the hell was the question 😳 If memory serves, this was during the 1996 season...Kelly was having kind of a rough season, showing his age a bit at times, fans were calling for Kelly to get benched. At some point in the season Kelly was mysteriously injured in practice and missed 3 games. There were lots of crazy rumors going around about what "really" happened. People saying it was really an in-house suspension by the team. There were lot of unsavory rumors going around. Edited March 10, 2021 by Buftex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Levy was over rated IMO. Yes he got to 4 straight Super Bowls, and can never take that away from him as it may likely never be done again, but he was terrible in those SB’s IMHO. I feel like he was a product of an insanely talented roster, to have never won a SB in 4 years was where I feel his short comings as a coach contributed to that. I don’t think I will ever forgive him for the last drive against the Giants to basically not even attempt to advance the ball despite having the time to do it. He made his mind up he was gonna settle for a long FG kick rather than use the insanely talented offense to try and at least get that FG try closer. It was the ultimate scared and wussy move. I know it’s not fair comparison, but I already prefer McD who has the bravado to be aggressive and isn’t afraid to take risks. I feel like that McD’s makeup is more inline with a champion coach than Levy’s was. Clearly Levy still has him dominated in the resume department, but I fully believe McD is going to be a SB Champion HC here and ultimately surpass Levy and break all his franchise records as a coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Anyone who knocks Marv (the coach) is dead to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 20 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Simple as that. I think the Allen and McDermott combo will win at least 2 Super Bowls when it’s all said and done which is a much greater achievement than 4 losses in a row IMO. I know it’s early, but just trying to get some off-season discussion flowing. Marv was awesome but I do believe McD can surpass him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Yes, but in order for that to happen he has to fix this defense. For a defensive oriented coach, I found his D last year to be quite abysmal. Our offense carried us all year and our defense was nowhere to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) All good will that Marv generated with me as HC of the Bills got pissed away with the clown show that started in 2006... so it may not be fair but I would have to say yes, GO McD! Edited March 11, 2021 by Rico 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/9/2021 at 3:55 PM, Greg S said: It was before my time but wouldn't Saban be considered a better coach than Levy? He did coach the Bills to back to back AFL championships in 64 and 65. Saban might be better on game-day, maybe. Overall Levy was much more consistent, steadfast, dedicated and loyal. Saban was also very involved in player acquisition and building his teams. Levy worked with Polian and Butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 15 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I agree. Marv was not a great coach (SB 25 laid that bare) , but a great man. I wish Bean's vision would include (at some point) a larger or smarter investment in TE-1 We man, it’s funny you say this as I was listening to WGR this morning and the two were debating whether they release Brown, and use the $8mil, to make a run at Jonnu Smith from the Titans. He’s one of the best young durable TE’s available right now. They didn’t tag him, and spotrac has his value at $ 8 mil. I’d love to have the option of 12 personnel at times. Losing Brown was predictable, but they can get a speed guy somewhere in the draft, and we have Hodgins for another possession guy. As far as Marv., one small vignettes I appreciated was that I take my kids to Buffalo every September for a game as my Dad is a snowbird so we try and go up before he comes back to FL. Well, we’ve made a thing of it where between my siblings, cousins, nephews, we’d have 18-20 people at the game, and of course the bug Irish Catholic family reunion. Long story short we saw Marv in the airport on Monday morning, and he was so gracious taking a pic with my boys. He was kind and made small talk with my guys when he was ina. Rush to get to his plane. I’ll never forget such a small, but very kind gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 8 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: We man, it’s funny you say this as I was listening to WGR this morning and the two were debating whether they release Brown, and use the $8mil, to make a run at Jonnu Smith from the Titans. He’s one of the best young durable TE’s available right now. They didn’t tag him, and spotrac has his value at $ 8 mil. I’d love to have the option of 12 personnel at times. Losing Brown was predictable, but they can get a speed guy somewhere in the draft, and we have Hodgins for another possession guy. As far as Marv., one small vignettes I appreciated was that I take my kids to Buffalo every September for a game as my Dad is a snowbird so we try and go up before he comes back to FL. Well, we’ve made a thing of it where between my siblings, cousins, nephews, we’d have 18-20 people at the game, and of course the bug Irish Catholic family reunion. Long story short we saw Marv in the airport on Monday morning, and he was so gracious taking a pic with my boys. He was kind and made small talk with my guys when he was ina. Rush to get to his plane. I’ll never forget such a small, but very kind gesture. I saw Marv at the Ralph once, scurrying up to the booth to call the game. He was all smiles to everyone who was within sight. Great guy. Jonnu is a great idea. swapping out his cost for what they were paying Brown (who Josh had clearly lost confidence in) would be a fantastic move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaccof Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/9/2021 at 4:56 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Completely forgot about him. How can you forget the guy who made "they're killing me Whitey, they're killing me" famous (albeit while he was with the Bronco's)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Pretty simple. In order for McD to pass Levy he has to win a SB or go to 5 consecutive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I saw Marv at the Ralph once, scurrying up to the booth to call the game. He was all smiles to everyone who was within sight. Great guy. I met Marv when I was waiting tables way back, probably 2001ish. It was mid afternoon, really slow time between lunch and dinner. Wasn’t my table, so I waited until he and his wife finished their meal and paid their check. They were getting ready to leave and I approached, extending my hand for a handshake, told him thanks for all the good memories in Buffalo and that he was truly someone that I had looked up to. He shook my hand and said “Thank you young man, that’s quite a compliment!” in that unmistakable booming Marv voice. I was on cloud nine. I had never been that “starstruck” in my life. A very fond memory of a very fine gentleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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