Andy Reid’s son admits drinking before accident that severely injured child [edited title]

[blitzboy54]

12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

@#$@% what a Hella bad take. 

 

Depression, suicide of a young person, is a terrible terrible thing.  We can't imagine. One of my bosses had a son who suicided at age 17.   Son was a star athlete, had lots of friends, no one knew where his head was.  That man will never get over it, Never.  Never. 

 

If you come out of the "Hood" (the Parent"Hood") with a healthy and reasonably well-adjusted adult kid you are blessed, Blessed.  Because in hindsight sometimes you learn how easily it could have gone another way, despite all the parents' love and care and attention.  All of the stuff we say to our kids trying to raise them, the time we lost our temper and maybe said a couple things we didn't really mean, maybe three flaps of a butterfly's wings away from pushing our kid down that awful road.   Parenting is a non-stop montage of humbling experience.

Everybody deals with grief in their own way.  When Nobel Laureate Richard Feynman's first wife Irene died, he says he got back to work at the Manhattan Project as fast as possible.  People asked about Irene and he said "She died. How's the Project?"  He didn't want to talk about it.  He was grieving, but he threw himself into his work.  That was how he dealt with his grief. 

 

I'm not going to judge a guy I don't know what kind of parent he is.  A lot of parents have high-powered careers that take them away from their families. Armed forces.  Physicians.  Executives.  It all depends on what you do with the time you give your kids, and none of us know that.

 

There are literally millions of examples of broken families in all walks of life.

 

Did your boss take the day off or no?  

 

I'm not making light of anything. It's horrific. That little girls brain is swollen and she might not wake up. There definitely is an imbalance to these things and NFL coaches. I don't pay attention to college so I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised to find out it's similar. Any high end job will take a toll

 

A contractor I work with, his adult son died in a construction accident. When I saw him a 2 weeks later I stopped to tell him how unbelievably sorry I was and let him know if there was anything I could do I would be happy to. He was understandably broken but had to come to work because he's a construction worker he gets no sick time or vacation. Just can get laid off for as long as he can afford it. He just wanted to be home with his family and morn but he had a work because he has responsibilities. THAT is a tragedy. Broke my#%^*ing heart.

 

 

Dungy didn't take the day

 

 

 

Edited February 9, 2021 by blitzboy54

[billsfan_34]

8 hours ago, Roy Hobbs said:

 

Sincerely doubt they will release Andy Reid due to an accident caused by his son. No doubt his son will be relieved of his duties. 

 

Also, the police will wait until the investigation is complete and then charge Reid if warranted. They won't wait until they see if the girl recovers as it could be months. 

 

Andy was clearly distracted by this and it showed in his awful game plan. Does KC want this to rear its ugly head again? Time will tell. I understand about the legalities and when to charge. 

[Augie]

5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Thanks.  I meant that in general, as an employer (HC) working closely with his employees (Assistant coaches) long hours every day, if Reid's son had relapsed and was using/drinking again, Reid probably saw signs.  IME, when a boss or a coworker is using or drinking, they think they're concealing it but it's an "open secret" where sometimes, for various reasons, those most concerned may be blind to the signs.   They don't want it to be true, so they miss them.

 

Shakespeare sonnet 138 starts out "When my love swears that she is made of truth, I do believe her, though I know she lies".  It was written about a romantic lover but applicable to all the people we love.  Part of you knows, but you don't want it to be so, so it's difficult to let yourself believe it and you tell that part you're imagining things and need to have more faith. 

 

Of course, it's just a guess based on past experience with co-workers, boss, and friends who are parents who've been through this hell.

 

My heart goes out to all the people who have had this experience on this board.  It's a living hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

 

 

The first DUI was 13 years ago in PA, lot of people who raise hell in their 20s settle down in their 30s especially once "married with kids".  Britt Reid is 35 yrs old, married with 3 kids.

 

For me, it was the cryptic phrase in the warrant "a computer check revealed ... multiple prior DUI contacts" .  Even our LEO members don't seem to know what it means precisely, but the best guess seems to be that he had previous stops for DUI in MO but pled to a lesser charge, 6x.  IE ongoing problem in MO.

 

Shakespeare! What a classy joint we have!

 

Most of us have a built in defense mechanism to protect us from what we do not want to be. We have close friends who’s son has put them thru the ringer. For years it was “just pot”, but got him expelled from a private high school. He eventually graduated to anything and everything, did about a year in jail after stealing to pay for his habit, but managed to clean himself up. After a year or two clean he started drinking again and his parents said “well, at least it’s legal”. Then he got back into pot and “well, he’s done a lot worse”. I told them once (and only once)that it concerns me, but they don’t want to hear it. They just want it to be OK, and they know they have no control over it. I get that, I really do. 

 

The fear and risk NEVER goes away. Our son knew a guy who got in trouble early in life. He cleaned himself up and became VERY successful. After 30+ years clean he decides to walk into a liquor store one day, and within a week he was back on heroin. This is CRAZY stuff, but it really happens. Rational thought just goes out the window, and if you are on the outside looking in it’s almost impossible to comprehend. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

23 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Andy was clearly distracted by this and it showed in his awful game plan. Does KC want this to rear its ugly head again? Time will tell. I understand about the legalities and when to charge. 

 

LOL.  Maybe.  Myself,  I think Todd Bowles just had Reid/Bienemy/Mahomes number and his hosses were revved up and ready to get after it.

 

Maybe somewhere there could have been a game plan to overcome the downgrade on the Chiefs OL, but I think the perfect storm just met a boat with a crack in the bilge pump and a problem with the starboard engine.

[teef]

these last couple of pages, especially when it comes to parenting, is making me very, very sad.

 

[Bill from NYC]

2 minutes ago, teef said:

these last couple of pages, especially when it comes to parenting, is making me very, very sad.

 

Me too but it makes me also count my blessings, big time.

[teef]

10 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Me too but it makes me also count my blessings, big time.

very good take.  i like the attitude.

[Seventeen]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Edit: this is a story that moved me when I read it, about a football player and his journey with addiction - from playing in 2 Superbowls, to sleeping under a bridge, being found by a young photojournalist who did a story on him, to getting sober and finding work and love.  The part that stayed with me from the "Happy Recovery" part of the story: "“It only takes one slip,” he said, “and I’ll end up right back where you found me."  And he did.  https://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/article_d32d7ad2-8140-502d-b65a-7c35d2aa8999.html

Having an addiction, it must be hell.  But having someone you care about struggle with addiction, it's also hell.

 

 

 

 

Great story about Jackie Stewart although not what I expected at the end. 

 

Fact is everyone on the planet has their demons and some are just better equipped to keep them in the closets than others. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

36 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said:

Great story about Jackie Stewart although not what I expected at the end. 

Fact is everyone on the planet has their demons and some are just better equipped to keep them in the closets than others. 

 

Yes, it's uncannily close to Augie's son's friend's story.  Like he said: “It only takes one slip,” he said, “and I’ll end up right back where you found me."

[billsfan_34]

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

LOL.  Maybe.  Myself,  I think Todd Bowles just had Reid/Bienemy/Mahomes number and his hosses were revved up and ready to get after it.

 

Maybe somewhere there could have been a game plan to overcome the downgrade on the Chiefs OL, but I think the perfect storm just met a boat with a crack in the bilge pump and a problem with the starboard engine.

Very good points! This entire thing from a real life take is so sad. There is a 5 year old child in critical condition and last I heard a coma. 

[Seventeen]

A little update ... 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30869395/kansas-city-chiefs-assistant-coach-britt-reid-put-administrative-leave-amid-crash-probe

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Roy Hobbs said:

A little update ... 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30869395/kansas-city-chiefs-assistant-coach-britt-reid-put-administrative-leave-amid-crash-probe

 

The appropriate initial move, but why did it take them almost a week?

[Augie]

8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

@#$@% what a Hella bad take. 

 

Depression, suicide of a young person, is a terrible terrible thing.  We can't imagine. One of my bosses had a son who suicided at age 17.   Son was a star athlete, lots of friends, no one knew where his head was until it was found with a bullet in it.  That man will never get over it, Never. 

 

If you come out of the "Hood" (the Parent"Hood") with a healthy and reasonably well-adjusted adult kid you are blessed, Blessed.  Because in hindsight sometimes you learn how easily it could have gone another way, despite all the parents' love and care and attention.  All of the stuff we say to our kids trying to raise them, the time we lost our temper and maybe said a couple things we didn't really mean, maybe three flaps of a butterfly's wings away from pushing our kid down that awful road.   Parenting is a non-stop montage of humbling experience.

Everybody deals with grief in their own way.  When Nobel Laureate Richard Feynman's first wife Irene died, he says he got back to work at the Manhattan Project as fast as possible.  People asked about Irene and he said "She died. How's the Project?"  He didn't want to talk about it.  He was grieving, but he threw himself into his work.  That was how he dealt with his grief. 

 

I'm not going to judge a guy I don't know what kind of parent he is.  A lot of parents have high-powered careers that take them away from their families. Armed forces.  Physicians.  Executives.  It all depends on what you do with the time you give your kids, and none of us know that for these coaches and their families. 

 

There are literally millions of examples of broken families and children who suffer from addiction in all walks of life.  It's far from unique to NFL coaches and I can't even tell you if it's more common there.

 

I’m so much more concerned about the well being of that young girl I was going to leave this alone, but........

 

As I was flipping around channels I came across Anthony Bourdain in Spain and I wanted to see it where he went. It reminded me of Robin Williams, another guy with a well documented history of drug abuse. I’m not “saying” or suggesting anything, but I have to wonder how much drug abuse leads to suicides, on top of the overdoses. I think you are likely to look at life differently if you spend part of it living in hell. 

[SirAndrew]

I don’t know how the business works, but you’d think Reid could just dismiss his son from that position, or get him to resign. Feel free to comment if someone knows a reason Reid can’t just be fired. At the very least I’d hope he was encouraged to resign. Administrative leave always has such a gentle ring to it. Almost like Andy might buy the guy freedom, and once most forget he could be on the sideline again. 

Edited February 10, 2021 by SirAndrew

[Bill from NYC]

7 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I think you are likely to look at life differently if you spend part of it living in hell. 

Quite the poignant sentence.

[T master]

I just don't get it ? It's not like these guys are making $30K a yr and can't afford to call a uber or a cab because they just don't have the money then you throw in that this guy lost his brother because of a foreign substance yrs back you would think he would be a bit more careful with his actions .

 

 I hope the kids will be okay but !!! 

 

The bad thing is this even though this will be a bad spot on the kids record it will always be remembered as "Andy Reid's kid" so that will follow Andy even though it wasn't him .

[EasternOHBillsFan]

9 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I’m so much more concerned about the well being of that young girl I was going to leave this alone, but........

 

As I was flipping around channels I came across Anthony Bourdain in Spain and I wanted to see it where he went. It reminded me of Robin Williams, another guy with a well documented history of drug abuse. I’m not “saying” or suggesting anything, but I have to wonder how much drug abuse leads to suicides, on top of the overdoses. I think you are likely to look at life differently if you spend part of it living in hell. 

 

NO NO NO NO.......

 

Robin Williams's death had ZERO to do with drugs.

 

He had Lewy Body Dementia, which was gradually robbing him of his ability to function, and as a physical comic and one of the funniest people on the planet, he could not live like that. I wouldn't want that, that's for sure... and rather than be in that prison of the body, he decided he couldn't take it anymore. It's just when you have a family it's just 1,000,000 times worse and something I don't understand but that's what those kind of degenerative diseases do...

 

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/lewy-body-dementia/symptoms-causes/syc-20352025

 

Complications:

Lewy body dementia is progressive. Signs and symptoms worsen, causing:

Severe dementia

Aggressive behavior

Depression

Increased risk of falling and injury

Worsening of parkinsonian signs and symptoms, such as tremors

Death, on average about eight years after symptoms start

Edited February 10, 2021 by EasternOHBillsFan

[Mr. WEO]

12 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

The appropriate initial move, but why did it take them almost a week?

 

 

Because they are all enablers.  

[JohnC]

22 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

You know, John, there's a lot of information on these points up thread including a link to the warrant application last week and links to stories about his previous incidents.  

 

I treasure the compliment above that this has been a productive and educational thread on a difficult topic for some.

 

I don't see how it will help it stay that way if you're going to repeatedly reiterate questions to which you could find the answer either upthread or on the internet.

 

Sorry to belatedly to respond. I have been scrambling to get things done prior to a scheduled surgery. There are a number of things that need to get done in the Covid era that weren't required before. The point I'm making is that there still are a lot of unknowns associated with this case that are under investigation. His troubled addiction and behavior history are known. But from an article that I read today those issues related to 14 years ago and prior. Has he had more recent issues? I don't know. The authorities know what his alcohol level was but the public doesn't. The son admitted to having a couple of drinks or so but was it a factor in the accident? I don't know. Many are making assumptions about the alcohol factor in the accident when it isn't clear that it was a factor. The accident involved hitting a disabled car on a ramp. That in itself is a dangerous situation in itself. 

 

I'm not excusing the son of his responsibility in this tragedy. He will be held accountable for his actions. What I do find troubling are the comments attributing responsibility to the father or to the organization for the coach's son accident. Where I separate myself from many of the comments here is that I'm more willing to wait for more information before making assumptions about the accident, the son, the parent and the organization. This is still an active investigation. 

 

 

[Bill from NYC]

14 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Sorry to belatedly to respond. I have been scrambling to get things done prior to a scheduled surgery.

 

I hope that it goes well.

[JohnC]

3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I hope that it goes well.

Thank you. I'm getting my knee scoped so I wouldn't put it in the category of a major surgery. The worst part of this situation is being hobbled and not being able to be active. My life and world has shrunk to being mostly in the house. It's frustrating. Compared to what others are going through I count my blessings and deal with what I have to deal with.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

I don’t know how the business works, but you’d think Reid could just dismiss his son from that position, or get him to resign. Feel free to comment if someone knows a reason Reid can’t just be fired. At the very least I’d hope he was encouraged to resign. Administrative leave always has such a gentle ring to it. Almost like Andy might buy the guy freedom, and once most forget he could be on the sideline again. 

 

He could probably fire him, but most of us would want an investigation to complete before we're terminated from a position.  So leave seems appropriate at this point.

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

The point I'm making is that there still are a lot of unknowns associated with this case that are under investigation. His troubled addiction and behavior history are known. But from an article that I read today those issues related to 14 years ago and prior. Has he had more recent issues? I don't know. The authorities know what his alcohol level was but the public doesn't. The son admitted to having a couple of drinks or so but was it a factor in the accident? I don't know. Many are making assumptions about the alcohol factor in the accident when it isn't clear that it was a factor. The accident involved hitting a disabled car on a ramp. That in itself is a dangerous situation in itself. 

 

I'm not excusing the son of his responsibility in this tragedy. He will be held accountable for his actions. What I do find troubling are the comments attributing responsibility to the father or to the organization for the coach's son accident. Where I separate myself from many of the comments here is that I'm more willing to wait for more information before making assumptions about the accident, the son, the parent and the organization. This is still an active investigation.

 

I hope your surgery goes well.

 

The point I was making, John, is the "more recent issues" question has come up several times in the thread, so to say "I don't know...I don't know..." without at least acknowledging what's been brought up seems unresponsive of you.  You can question what the information means - others have - but at least acknowledge it's there.

 

It's been reported that highway entrance ramp is 2 lanes wide at the location where the accident took place.  A look at Google maps indicates that the ramp is two lanes wide until the point where the highway merge lane

 

The point that it's an active investigation and you want to wait for more information is entirely reasonable, but people are also entitled to look at the info we have and have questions/make inferences.  If  a guy has red, bloodshot eyes and shows signs of impairment on field sobriety tests, smells of alcohol, and admits "2-3 drinks" it's not a giant leap to think alcohol impairment was involved.  2-3 drinks don't turn my eyes red and bloodshot.  If the warrant for blood draw says "a computer check revealed ... multiple prior DUI contacts" that seems to indicate other DUI instances in MO.  Here it is again.

 

I'd feel better is if the Chiefs were a bit more transparent about how/who is investigating what, internally.

 

I would like to feel comfortable that the investigation will be impartial and the son will be held accountable but I've seen instances where wealthy and powerful people influence investigations.  I believe a different person who smelled of alcohol, showed signs of impairment, and struck other vehicles in a crash that critically injured a little girl might have been arrested immediately.

 

18 hours ago, blitzboy54 said:

Did your boss take the day off or no?  

Dungy didn't take the day

 

The former is detail to which you're not entitled, especially since you appear to be asking it specifically to throw stones if you don't like the answer.  It's also not germaine to my point, which is: everyone grieves and processes grief in their own way.   If you choose to judge because their way isn't what you'd do, that's on you.

[SirAndrew]

41 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He could probably fire him, but most of us would want an investigation to complete before we're terminated from a position.  So leave seems appropriate at this point.

 

 

Fair enough, I don’t want to get into judging Reid’s parenting, but I was probably looking at it from the perspective of the guy’s father being his boss. Obviously Britt is a grown a man, but as Andy Reid’s child I’d fully understand why my parent fired me after breaching trust that was given when he hired me. It seems the scenario would be a little different than employment that didn’t  involve family. If I were Andy and Britt I’d want to free myself of this ugly situation by mutual parting ways from that position ASAP. This is also not a judgement, but just a statement of how’d I’d probably have a different style. 

Edited February 10, 2021 by SirAndrew

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Fair enough, I don’t want to get into judging Reid’s parenting, but I was probably looking at it from the perspective of the guy’s father being his boss. Obviously Britt is a grown a man, but as Andy Reid’s child I’d fully understand why my parent fired me after breaching trust that was given when he hired me. It seems the scenario would be a little different than employment that didn’t  involve family. If I were Andy and Britt I’d want to free myself of this ugly situation by mutual parting ways from that position ASAP. This is also not a judgement, but just a statement of how’d I’d probably have a different style. 

 

I think the situation is probably complicated by the fact that Britt Reid was apparently himself injured in the crash and underwent surgery.

[SDS]

Is anyone else weirded out by continuously referring to a 35 year old man as someone’s child and incessantly referring to another person’s parenting skills of said 35 year old child?

[SirAndrew]

30 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think the situation is probably complicated by the fact that Britt Reid was apparently himself injured in the crash and underwent surgery.

That’s a fair point. 

20 minutes ago, SDS said:

Is anyone else weirded out by continuously referring to a 35 year old man as someone’s child and incessantly referring to another person’s parenting skills of said 35 year old child?

I agree with the judgement portion, I disagree with referring to him as Andy Reid’s child, that’s what he is. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

29 minutes ago, SDS said:

Is anyone else weirded out by continuously referring to a 35 year old man as someone’s child and incessantly referring to another person’s parenting skills of said 35 year old child?

 

As to the former, doesn't that happen with the adult children of most notable people, until/unless they become notable in their own right?  The children of famous or notable people in the news seem commonly referred to as "so and so's son" or "so and so's son-in-law"

 

As to the latter, I agree that by age 35, a man should be considered responsible for his own actions and not have them laid to the door of his dad, but  in this case, his Dad has chosen to hire him for a premier coaching position for which his qualifications may be questioned, and he was likely driving away from his job location when the crash occurred.  So there's that.

[blitzboy54]

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

The former is detail to which you're not entitled, especially since you appear to be asking it specifically to throw stones if you don't like the answer.  It's also not germaine to my point, which is: everyone grieves and processes grief in their own way.   If you choose to judge because their way isn't what you'd do, that's on you.

 

I wasn't really asking about your boss. It was rhetorical. It wasn't to throw stones but I was making a point. 

 

Seems when it involves a sport we love suddenly we shouldn't judge but I guess that says a lot about me.  You left out the part in the middle interestingly enough and only focused on my first and last sentence. I can judge and I clearly do. When you are father and a husband it's actually not just about you. Perhaps his other children or wife needed him. Who knows maybe they were like, "you know what, we got this you go and coach that regular season game, I mean we have other kids"

 

I've had this conversation with some of the dads in the neighborhood I hang out with. It's a bit tongue in cheek but there is a lot of truth to it. I judge people exclusively by the behavior of their children. It's as fair a metric as any. It cuts both ways, there are people I've met that I don't necessarily like that much at first but their kids are awesome and it forces me to rethink it. If you took any of my kids failings and blamed my wife or I for them you would be 100% correct to do it. Our children are the only thing we leave behind that matters. 

 

To paraphrase a famous football coach "you are what your record says you are" 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, blitzboy54 said:

I wasn't really asking about your boss. It was rhetorical. It wasn't to throw stones but I was making a point. 

 

I get your point.  I just disagree.  I'm not going to tell a man how to grieve his deepest tragedy or pass judgement from the outside on what family discussions or decision making went into his choice.

 

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Seems when it involves a sport we love suddenly we shouldn't judge but I guess that says a lot about me.  You left out the part in the middle interestingly enough and only focused on my first and last sentence. I can judge and I clearly do. When you are father and a husband it's actually not just about you. Perhaps his other children or wife needed him. Who knows maybe they were like, "you know what, we got this you go and coach that regular season game, I mean we have other kids"

 

That last is just low, IMO.

 

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I've had this conversation with some of the dads in the neighborhood I hang out with. It's a bit tongue in cheek but there is a lot of truth to it. I judge people exclusively by the behavior of their children. It's as fair a metric as any. It cuts both ways, there are people I've met that I don't necessarily like that much at first but their kids are awesome and it forces me to rethink it. If you took any of my kids failings and blamed my wife or I for them you would be 100% correct to do it. Our children are the only thing we leave behind that matters. 

 

We will have to emphatically disagree here.  It can work when the kids are young and the parents hold all the carrots and all the sticks.  Once they start spending the day apart from their parents at school or sports or friends houses, there are all kinds of influences and they begin to be able to make their own choices. 

 

Lots of good people I know came from rotten families. 

 

I have friends who I know to be good people, put their all into being the best parents they could be, and got their hearts broken. 

 

 

[SirAndrew]

3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

As to the former, doesn't that happen with the adult children of most notable people, until/unless they become notable in their own right?  The children of famous or notable people in the news seem commonly referred to as "so and so's son" or "so and so's son-in-law"

 

As to the latter, I agree that by age 35, a man should be considered responsible for his own actions and not have them laid to the door of his dad, but  in this case, his Dad has chosen to hire him for a premier coaching position for which his qualifications may be questioned, and he was likely driving away from his job location when the crash occurred.  So there's that.

Great post. Whether or not people refer to adult children as “ the kid” depends a lot on circumstances and context. The manner in which someone speaks also plays a big role. Growing up in small town America, it wasn’t uncommon to hear 40 and 50 year old guys referred to as “Mr. Smith’s boy”. It’s a point of reference when being used in a specific context. This story involves Andy Reid’s KC Chiefs, so that context applies imo, regardless of how fair it may be. Haven’t we all heard 90 year old parents refer to their 70 year children as “the kids” as well ? 
 

Regarding your latter points. I’m on board with everyone who says we shouldn’t judge a parent based on the actions of a child. I’d never want to be judged based on the actions of my parents or family. With that said, I wouldn’t hitch the wagon of my reputation to hiring certain members of my family either. That’s not a judgement of Andy Reid, I’m simply making the point that although I hope not to be judged by the actions of my family, some of them wouldn’t be the first people I’d hire if I were starting a business. Those people mean the world to me, but I wouldn’t have the confidence to attach myself to them in my professional life. 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

6 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Regarding your latter points. I’m on board with everyone who says we shouldn’t judge a parent based on the actions of a child. I’d never want to be judged based on the actions of my parents or family. With that said, I wouldn’t hitch the wagon of my reputation to hiring certain members of my family either. That’s not a judgement of Andy Reid, I’m simply making the point that although I hope not to be judged by the actions of my family, some of them wouldn’t be the first people I’d hire if I were starting a business. Those people mean the world to me, but I wouldn’t have the confidence to attach myself to them in my professional life.

 

LOL I Hear That!  I love my rellies!  Some I love in part *because* of who they are and how they behave, and some I love *in spite* of it!

[wjag]

On 2/9/2021 at 9:15 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

The appropriate initial move, but why did it take them almost a week?

why. One word. Lawyers.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Update today from child's GoFundme page:

 

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Hello again,
Thank you to everyone who continues to pray for Ariel and support the family in a time like this. She remains in a coma and there are no changes today. I’m hopeful that the next time I update this page it’s with better news.

 

 

[Seventeen]

And another twist to the story - 

 

https://fox4kc.com/news/missouri-department-of-revenue-assisting-in-britt-reid-crash-investigation/

 

Not sure what impact this would have on a case against Reid. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Roy Hobbs said:

And another twist to the story - 

 

https://fox4kc.com/news/missouri-department-of-revenue-assisting-in-britt-reid-crash-investigation/

 

Not sure what impact this would have on a case against Reid. 

 

I don't think it has any effect on the case against Reid.

It may cloud the picture of auto insurance responsibility for the crash, depending on the arrangement under which Britt Reid was using the vehicle. 

 

Fortunately that's not an immediate issue for the family thanks to the GoFundMe

 

Per link in the above, the timeline for completing the investigation and deciding upon charges is 30 to 60 days

https://fox4kc.com/news/documents-reveal-new-details-into-crash-involving-chiefs-coach-britt-reid-that-left-girl-critically-injured/

 

And per the Kansas City Chiefs....Britt Reid is no longer employed by the team

https://fox4kc.com/sports/chiefs/britt-reids-contract-with-chiefs-expires-club-says-hes-no-longer-employed-by-team/

 

Apparently nepotism has its limits

[Royale with Cheese]

Anyone else a little surprised that the Chiefs still haven’t removed him from their coaches roster on Chiefs.com?

Its been several hours since the Chiefs informed the public he’s no longer a part of the team.

 

https://www.chiefs.com/team/coaches-roster/britt-reid

 

[Punching Bag]

On 2/10/2021 at 7:46 AM, SirAndrew said:

I don’t know how the business works, but you’d think Reid could just dismiss his son from that position, or get him to resign. Feel free to comment if someone knows a reason Reid can’t just be fired. At the very least I’d hope he was encouraged to resign. Administrative leave always has such a gentle ring to it. Almost like Andy might buy the guy freedom, and once most forget he could be on the sideline again. 

 

It was administrative leave because they knew his contract was expiring and they were preparing for Superbowl.

Not that it would make a difference based on final score but if he was mad enough about it and was fired he could go to Tampa Bay coaching staff and give all he knew about players and plans.  Real waste of effort since he likely would get paid anyways since contract was guaranteed and NFL coaching union would put a fuss about it.

3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Anyone else a little surprised that the Chiefs still haven’t removed him from their coaches roster on Chiefs.com?

Its been several hours since the Chiefs informed the public he’s no longer a part of the team.

 

https://www.chiefs.com/team/coaches-roster/britt-reid

 

 

 

Not at all surprised.   Bills actually had the wrong score of a game posted before.  Often these websites are farmed out to companies and QA is bad.

[Seventeen]

8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't think it has any effect on the case against Reid.

It may cloud the picture of auto insurance responsibility for the crash, depending on the arrangement under which Britt Reid was using the vehicle. 

 

Fortunately that's not an immediate issue for the family thanks to the GoFundMe

 

Per link in the above, the timeline for completing the investigation and deciding upon charges is 30 to 60 days

https://fox4kc.com/news/documents-reveal-new-details-into-crash-involving-chiefs-coach-britt-reid-that-left-girl-critically-injured/

 

And per the Kansas City Chiefs....Britt Reid is no longer employed by the team

https://fox4kc.com/sports/chiefs/britt-reids-contract-with-chiefs-expires-club-says-hes-no-longer-employed-by-team/

 

Apparently nepotism has its limits

 

Not to make light of what happened to Ariel, but the collateral damage from this will extend to Britt Reid's own family and also Andy's. 

 

I doubt if found guilty of any charges related to alcohol that he will ever be employable by the Chiefs or any other team in the NFL. He 

already has a felony conviction which would make it tough to get any job, let alone a football job. I would find it hard to believe that Britt's 

wife was not aware of his drinking but she obviously can't watch him while he's at the Chiefs' facility or anywhere else outside the home. 

Financially this could ruin him and his family and I suspect Andy would move them out of KC as his kids are approaching school age and would 

face the eventual taunting and harassment by classmates over their father. 

 

If he goes to prison, I'm sure Andy will pick up their family expenses wherever they end up but a civil suit could run into the millions. 

 

Lots at stake for all families involved but let's pray that Ariel recovers and has a normal life. 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Roy Hobbs said:

I doubt if found guilty of any charges related to alcohol that he will ever be employable by the Chiefs or any other team in the NFL.

 

Aren't there actually quite a few coaches and assistants who have alcohol related charges in their background?  The Chiefs OC Eric Bienemy would be one.

 

I think I understand what you're saying though. 

 

Being involved in a crash that may be alcohol related 1) near the stadium, apparently heading home 2) that severely injures or possibly kills a child

is Next-level over racking up a couple DUIs in your 20s and being a Good Boy from your 30s on.