JoPoy88 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, KellyToTasker said: Allen’s stats have jumped significantly this season from year 2 (Last season and Maholmes’ MVP year). Hasselback wasn’t comparing Allen to Maholmes last year. He’s comparing Allen to Maholmes this year. Okay so how fine of hairs are we splitting here? Mahomes sat out his whole rookie year and Allen had to play his. Does that count for anything? Is there another non-point to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I'm interested in hearing what the CBS guys have to say about the game. I'm sure they'll all faun over Josh Allen's play, but I want to hear Coach Cowher talk about the defense and put the Chiefs on notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Okay so how fine of hairs are we splitting here? Mahomes sat out his whole rookie year and Allen had to play his. Does that count for anything? Is there another non-point to make? Look When MVP is Judged its a 3 horse race right now with Mahomes leading the way. When your talking about the best QB PERIOD... History comes in... Now.. in a way its not fair cause Mahomes already had the pieces around him his first year and he sat a year. BUT. no matter the reasons.. No matter what aaaaaallllllllll the excuses are.. The Past matters. Get over it people..... Mods I respectfully request any future posts about "hate on Josh about not being #1" get merged into this post cause I am tired of having to repeat my points over and over and over. Keep in mind.. this is a good problem to have haha but lets start merging them.. please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, PrimeTime101 said: Look When MVP is Judged its a 3 horse race right now with Mahomes leading the way. When your talking about the best QB PERIOD... History comes in... Now.. in a way its not fair cause Mahomes already had the pieces around him his first year and he sat a year. BUT. no matter the reasons.. No matter what aaaaaallllllllll the excuses are.. The Past matters. Get over it people..... not disagreeing with you it’s the same point I was trying to make. These guys are winded up saying these commentators are wrong because “RIGHT NOW” (as in, this week I suppose?) mahomes and allen are playing at an equal level. Sure. Are we re-evaluating after every game then? Of course not. Mahomes has been and is better. Allen can change that though; he’s capable of doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: not disagreeing with you it’s the same point I was trying to make. These guys are winded up saying these commentators are wrong because “RIGHT NOW” (as in, this week I suppose?) mahomes and allen are playing at an equal level. Sure. Are we re-evaluating after every game then? Of course not. Mahomes has been and is better. Allen can change that though; he’s capable of doing it. Right now IS Josh Allen the best QB in the NFL... Come on man, its an argument to be made. not a friggen fact.. Edited December 20, 2020 by PrimeTime101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Isn't it great in and of itself that they are comparing Allen to Mahomes? I keep thinking about the hypothetical - would KC trade Mahones to Bills for Allen and White (basically the draft choice trades)? I think it has come all the way from "no way" to "no, but let me think about it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I love hearing what Bruschi, the most over rated LB in NFL history, has to say because it’s always comedy gold. the only reason he’s on there is so the other guys can roll their eyes at his 100% biased takes. There always has to be one idiot on set to make the other analysts look good by comparison and Ted is perfect in that role 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Saw this and he was just so smug and snarky about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: Isn't it great in and of itself that they are comparing Allen to Mahomes? I keep thinking about the hypothetical - would KC trade Mahones to Bills for Allen and White (basically the draft choice trades)? I think it has come all the way from "no way" to "no, but let me think about it". yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: Right now IS Josh Allen the best QB in the NFL... Come on man, its an argument to be made, not a friggen fact.. and like i said, “right now” depends on the observer. I can take a longer view and say Mahomes has been and still IS the best QB in the league, and I’d have just as much evidence to back that up as people who think Allen is (and Rodgers fans, for that matter.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: and like i said, “right now” depends on the observer. I can take a longer view and say Mahomes has been and still IS the best QB in the league, and I’d have just as much evidence to back that up as people who think Allen is (and Rodgers fans, for that matter.) Right.. So us as fans cant and we should stop getting huffy and puffy over something that is a fair argument to be made and not absolute factual. Josh is in the discussion. Great. But its a Discussion.. not fact. that's all im saying on this topic lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Simon said: It's driving me up a freaking wall. I'm rapidly approaching the point where I'm going to start a Talking Heads thread and then just toss all these complaints about the media into it. Meanwhile one of you own mods makes a thread about someone else's opinion on the bills game -- mahomes. You guys flame people for whatever validation criteria you think a thread deserves and based on who makes one and how you are feeling that moment. More discussion regardless of topic is good for your board traffic. You all need to chill. Edited December 20, 2020 by Sharky7337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Look When MVP is Judged its a 3 horse race right now with Mahomes leading the way. When your talking about the best QB PERIOD... History comes in... Now.. in a way its not fair cause Mahomes already had the pieces around him his first year and he sat a year. BUT. no matter the reasons.. No matter what aaaaaallllllllll the excuses are.. The Past matters. Get over it people..... Mods I respectfully request any future posts about "hate on Josh about not being #1" get merged into this post cause I am tired of having to repeat my points over and over and over. Keep in mind.. this is a good problem to have haha but lets start merging them.. please? While I don't disagree with you, I have to say that your personal lack of humility is quite a turn off. Are you filling some inner need by being so condescending on chat boards? Hmm.....please, get over yourself. Edited December 20, 2020 by RochesterLifer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, RochesterLifer said: While I don't disagree with you, I have to say that your personal lack of humility is quite a turn off. Are you filling some inner need by being so condescending on chat boards? Hmm.....please, get over yourself. Stop making It personal. I have not made it personal... I have just stated a point. These boards are about posting about the bills not about posting personal attacks. The only thing I said is to get over it. You don't like that statement tough. But your personal attacks on me stop now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Right.. So us as fans cant and we should stop getting huffy and puffy over something that is a fair argument to be made and not absolute factual. Josh is in the discussion. Great. But its a Discussion.. not fact. that's all im saying on this topic lol.. YES and YES. Fans like you need to absolutely stop getting huffy and puffy over this BS. That’s exactly what I am saying. It’s old and terribly played out. The team is great. Their record and their various statistics are there plain to see and prove they're great. Stop finding and singling out people with their own biases and agendas that are telling you otherwise. The insecurity is palpable. Edited December 20, 2020 by JoPoy88 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, JoPoy88 said: YES and YES. Fans like you need to absolutely stop getting huffy and puffy over this BS. That’s exactly what I am saying. It’s old and terribly played out. The team is great. Their record and their various statistics are there plain to see and prove their great. Stop finding and singling out people with their own biases and agendas that are telling you otherwise. The insecurity is palpable. Thank you! we agree lol.. it just took a while for us to get there... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: Thank you! we agree lol.. it just took a while for us to get there... lol 🍻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said: YES and YES. Fans like you need to absolutely stop getting huffy and puffy over this BS. That’s exactly what I am saying. It’s old and terribly played out. The team is great. Their record and their various statistics are there plain to see and prove their great. Stop finding and singling out people with their own biases and agendas that are telling you otherwise. The insecurity is palpable. I dont think its insecurity. My point was that Brushi has been terribly biased and anti Bills his entire broadcasting career. He is a card carrying Patriots homer and shows literally zero objective views on our Bills. It actually looks like it physically pains him to speak positively about the Bills. Give me any other commentator but that clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, Mailman said: I dont think its insecurity. My point was that Brushi has been terribly biased and anti Bills his entire broadcasting career. He is a card carrying Patriots homer and shows literally zero objective views on our Bills. It actually looks like it physically pains him to speak positively about the Bills. Give me any other commentator but that clown. then I give you Nick Wright Cheers lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Stop making It personal. I have not made it personal... I have just stated a point. These boards are about posting about the bills not about posting personal attacks. The only thing I said is to get over it. You don't like that statement tough. But your personal attacks on me stop now. Thank you for making my point. There is a good chance I will call you out whenever it suits me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Just now, RochesterLifer said: Thank you for making my point. There is a good chance I will call you out whenever it suits me. theres a good chance you will get warnings or worse if you continue to insult me and or threaten me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Mailman said: I dont think its insecurity. My point was that Brushi has been terribly biased and anti Bills his entire broadcasting career. He is a card carrying Patriots homer and shows literally zero objective views on our Bills. It actually looks like it physically pains him to speak positively about the Bills. Give me any other commentator but that clown. All the more reason to disregard any and everything he says. Why spend even one moment absorbing what Teddy says about the Bills? Because he’s on ESPN? Not a valid reason. ESPN sucks and has sucked for years and you should find new outlets for NFL analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: Meanwhile one of you own mods makes a thread about someone else's opinion on the bills game -- mahomes. You guys flame people for whatever validation criteria you think a thread deserves and based on who makes one and how you are feeling that moment. More discussion regardless of topic is good for your board traffic. You all need to chill. My comment was in reference to "media". I couldn't care less who made this thread or the 10 others that preceded it. I have been thinking about this for a couple weeks now. This board is more about quality than quantity. Considering your regular panic in game threads, I am approximately 15,000X more chill than you. So congratulations on getting every single thing in your post 100% wrong. That's a very impressive percentage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: then I give you Nick Wright Cheers lol Ok ok. Maybe anyone else...except Nick Wright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Simon said: My comment was in reference to "media". I couldn't care less who made this thread or the 10 others that preceded it. I have been thinking about this for a couple weeks now. This board is more about quality than quantity. Considering your regular panic in game threads, I am approximately 15,000X more chill than you. So congratulations on getting every single thing in your post 100% wrong. That's a very impressive percentage. Ahhh a personal attack how surprising! Kudos to you! I hope you feel better about yourself today! Yes I really "panic" so much in game threads. But ya my post was spot on. As we can see by your reaction Edited December 20, 2020 by Sharky7337 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Mailman said: Ok ok. Maybe anyone else...except Nick Wright. hahaha gg bro Just now, Sharky7337 said: Ahhh a personal attack how surprising! Kudos to you! I hope you feel better about yourself today! Yes I really "panic" so.much in game threads. you got it wrong.. take a breath.. Or better yet.. Mods close the topic do to this topic continuing to go down hill.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mailman said: It actually looks like it physically pains him to speak positively about the Bills. Maybe that's just another stroke kicking in...🤔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: hahaha gg bro you got it wrong.. take a breath.. Or better yet.. Mods close the topic do to this topic continuing to go down hill.. I respectfully disagree. I didnt get anything wrong. They flame people for putting up media or national figure posts on allen or bills when they don't like it. But then the mods do the same posts and it's ok. Its a double standard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Seemed like he just went off topic to prove a point to me. Hasselbsck was talking about how Josh has been playing lately and Teddy wanted to bring up playoffs to win an argument. Mahommes had all his guys that help make him great play with him through out playoffs, Bills game against the Texans we were missing one very important piece (Diggs) that has helped Josh take his game to another level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: They flame people for putting up media or national figure posts on allen or bills when they don't like it. My post was about the media and I suggest you stop lying about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Simon said: My post was about the media and I suggest you stop lying about it. I'm not talking about you specifically in this occasion. Other mods have and that is not a lie. But i don't wanna derail this thread with this anymore. If you want specific examples I can give you them privately. Edited December 20, 2020 by Sharky7337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Josh isn’t the bet QB in the NFL. Yet. Still has work to do 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Bruschi is an arrogant cheatin' prick. ***** him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: All the more reason to disregard any and everything he says. Why spend even one moment absorbing what Teddy says about the Bills? Because he’s on ESPN? Not a valid reason. ESPN sucks and has sucked for years and you should find new outlets for NFL analysis. Didn't think he was bashing Josh. Said he's not Mahomes' level yet. He's not wrong. He did nothing but compliment Josh from 1:00-2:00 mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) I can't stand Bruschi or Rodney Harrison. They can both eat a big bag of Jauron's. I'd also like to take that big meathead, Vrabel, down in the playoffs. Edited December 20, 2020 by Beast 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 hour ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Will there be a new thread for every pundit who does not claim Josh is the best player in the NFL? Lo, in those days a star arose in the East, proclaiming the coming of another pundit $#!t-post on TBD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: I'm not talking about you specifically in this occasion. Other mods have and that is not a lie. But i don't wanna derail this thread with this anymore. If you want specific examples I can give you them privately. I'm about to close the thread anyways so no biggie. My issue isn't with a single thread or a single poster. My issue is that the board is being overrun with this nonsense; the last couple weeks it's gotten really out of hand. It's not an individual problem, I see it as more of a volume problem. I've been considering the idea for a while now and wanted to toss it out there to see what kind of response it got from the community; it appears to be pretty positive thus far. Maybe I will now run it by the other mods and see what they think. Then I'll have to decide what gets lumped in and what doesn't. Interesting analysis from guys like Simms and Baldinger deserve their own threads, but jabbering weenies like Nik Wright and Teddy Bruschi? Maybe not so much. But for now, I'm taking my dog for a nice long hike in some beautiful virgin powder down a peaceful piney creek with nothing but game tracks on the ground and fresh snow draped everywhere else, so I'm not going to give a flying stab at a rolling doughnut about y'all for the next few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 The Negative Nelly’s May have a point. Even I sometimes think Josh acts on this whim.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 In 2020, being compared as a second to Paddy Mahomes...is NO slag. Mahomes is #163 All Time in Passing Yards- > 13,000 & #127 in TDs with 109. He is 36-8 in 3 years and has won a SB! THIRTY SIX AND EIGHT + A SB! No slag there. We hope that Allen will be as great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: The Negative Nelly’s May have a point. Even I sometimes think Josh acts on this whim.. "No, Bass, THIS is how you get a ball out of the stadium..." Edited December 20, 2020 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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