Nick the Greek Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 17 hours ago, Limeaid said: Erosion was due to illegal cheap shot. Players who do this should be mandated to have part of their pension go to that player. That was was dirty, I agree. But to say that’s why his career is over is a massive overstatement. He got old. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nick the Greek said: That was was dirty, I agree. But to say that’s why his career is over is a massive overstatement. He got old. Yeah, he didn’t have a strong leg to begin with. Maybe he lost a few yards from the injury, but he was getting older. The Hauschka hit is going to be the new Trent Edwards concussion. I saw someone mention the league trending towards kickers with stronger legs. I couldn’t agree more, and that trend wouldn’t leave much room for Haushka at any point in his career. He was really good for us, and an important factor in ending the drought. I do wish him the best. Edited December 5, 2020 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 fare well haus money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think they were concussed eyes. Hadnt he just been clocked helmet to helmet with no call? possible he was not in the game you can just see it in the eyes IS it plausible he had a concussion unnoticed in todays football? Edited December 5, 2020 by PrimeTime101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PrimeTime101 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Im happy for him.. he was a stable force. good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 On 12/4/2020 at 5:53 PM, FLFan said: Good for him. He has made some good money and his skills were clearly eroded. I wish him well. Class act. Dude was just that. Classy good dude. Was very active in community as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) On 12/5/2020 at 2:56 AM, Limeaid said: He is #6. I left out a lot of single year kickers. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/career-kicking.htm?sr&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool#kicking 0-19 0-19 20-2 20-2 30-3 30-3 40-4 40-4 50+ 50+ Scor Scor Scor Scor Scor Scor Rk Player From To G FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM▼ FG% XPA XPM XP% 1 Steve Christie 1992 2000 144 7 7 87 79 96 78 81 57 28 13 299 234 78.3% 313 309 98.7% 2 Rian Lindell 2003 2012 152 3 3 89 85 79 73 75 51 24 13 270 225 83.3% 306 305 99.7% 3 Scott Norwood 1985 1991 108 3 3 53 47 57 44 61 37 10 2 184 133 72.3% 278 271 97.5% 4 Dan Carpenter 2013 2016 64 1 1 36 36 32 30 36 28 21 14 126 109 86.5% 149 137 91.9% 5 John Leypoldt 1971 1976 65 13 12 25 17 30 22 42 21 11 2 121 74 61.2% 158 147 93.0% 6 Stephen Hauschka 2017 2019 48 14 14 25 24 29 23 21 12 89 73 82.0% 87 84 96.6% 7 Nick Mike-Mayer 1979 1982 47 20 17 26 17 32 14 2 80 48 60.0% 99 95 96.0% 8 Pete Gogolak 1964 1965 28 19 19 15 11 23 14 11 3 7 75 47 62.7% 77 76 98.7% 9 Bruce Alford 1968 1969 25 10 9 15 12 10 7 13 2 2 1 50 31 62.0% 39 38 97.4% 10 Mike Hollis 2002 2002 16 8 7 10 8 10 7 5 3 33 25 75.8% 40 40 100.0% 11 Tyler Bass 2020 2020 11 1 1 4 4 7 4 9 8 6 4 27 21 77.8% 33 32 97.0% 12 Booth Lusteg 1966 1966 14 10 8 5 3 8 4 11 4 4 38 19 50.0% 42 41 97.6% 13 Joe Danelo 1983 1984 23 9 7 10 7 10 3 7 1 36 18 50.0% 52 50 96.2% 14 Mike Mercer 1967 1968 17 3 3 6 3 7 4 14 5 1 1 31 16 51.6% 29 29 100.0% 15 Grant Guthrie 1970 1971 20 3 3 5 3 5 3 9 2 7 2 29 13 44.8% 34 32 94.1% 17 George Jakowenko 1976 1976 11 4 4 6 4 7 4 17 12 70.6% 24 21 87.5% 18 Jake Arians 2001 2001 10 6 6 4 2 11 4 21 12 57.1% 17 16 94.1% 19 Tom Dempsey 1978 1979 19 1 1 5 5 7 4 4 1 17 11 64.7% 49 44 89.8% Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table Generated 12/5/2020. Dan Carpenter is #1 for FG %! and Rian Lindell is #2, Hauschka is third for that. That is the most important stat of all in my opinion. It makes Dick Jauron's incredibly idiotic comment about Rian Lindell from the 2006 do or die game vs the Titans even more awesome. Thats where Jauron wouldnt allow Lindell to kick a 45 yard FG into the wind to try and win the game. Jauron's rationale? He said something like " I looked into his (Lindells) eyes and I could see he didnt have it". The Bills didnt try it and lost the game and were eliminated from playoff contention. Edited December 6, 2020 by Livinginthepast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 11:17 AM, Nick the Greek said: That was was dirty, I agree. But to say that’s why his career is over is a massive overstatement. He got old. Hauschka was never the same after the Anderson cheap shot. Impossible to directly correlate the cheap shot to the end of his career, but circumstantial evidence certainly points in that direction. 27 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Dan Carpenter is #1 for FG %! and Rian Lindell is #2, Hauschka is third for that. That is the most important stat of all in my opinion. It makes Dick Jauron's incredibly idiotic comment about Rian Lindell from the 2006 do or die game vs the Titans even more awesome. Thats where Jauron wouldnt allow Lindell to kick a 45 yard FG into the wind to try and win the game. Jauron's rationale? He said something like " I looked into his (Lindells) eyes and I could see he didnt have it". The Bills didnt try it and lost the game and were eliminated from playoff contention. Was that the same game in which Robert Royal lost track of where he was on the end zone, and failed to get his 2nd foot down on a fairly routine catch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Had a great run. But nfl retirements are funny. Blount just “retired.” Translation: no team wants to pay me a lot of money to play anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Jauron's rationale? He said something like " I looked into his (Lindells) eyes and I could see he didnt have it". Then the rest of WNY looked at that billboard, and saw Jauron didn't have it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampton Josh fan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Hauschka was a dependable, solid kicker for a long time. He lost some distance in recent years but overall , I thought he was clutch and a real team guy. Good luck "House Money ". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 12:30 PM, SirAndrew said: Yeah, he didn’t have a strong leg to begin with. Maybe he lost a few yards from the injury, but he was getting older. The Hauschka hit is going to be the new Trent Edwards concussion. I saw someone mention the league trending towards kickers with stronger legs. I couldn’t agree more, and that trend wouldn’t leave much room for Haushka at any point in his career. He was really good for us, and an important factor in ending the drought. I do wish him the best. What? You realize this is the career record holder in most consecutive FG made over 50 yards right? Dudes that don't have strong legs don't make 58 yard FGs in NFL games. His leg was perfectly fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 12:30 PM, SirAndrew said: Yeah, he didn’t have a strong leg to begin with. Riiiight, the career record holder for most consecutive 50+ yarders in NFL history had a crappy leg. Career long of 58 yards. Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: What? You realize this is the career record holder in most consecutive FG made over 50 yards right? Dudes that don't have strong legs don't make 58 yard FGs in NFL games. His leg was perfectly fine. Fair enough, I’ll admit my mistake. I really didn’t pay much attention to him in Seattle. He was very accurate with us, but it seemed like his leg strength was fading with us prior to the injury. I didn’t realize that his 50+ yard field record involved a few 55+ kicks as well. I assumed they were all in the 50-55 range, and I know that many of younger kickers are easily kicking from 60+. Hauschka did indeed have a strong leg at one point, but I’m still never going to blame it all on the hit. Bad take on my part, I can admit to that. I just didn’t remember Hausch ever having a big leg for some reason. Edited December 7, 2020 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 1:56 AM, Limeaid said: He is #6. I left out a lot of single year kickers. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/career-kicking.htm?sr&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool#kicking 0-19 0-19 20-2 20-2 30-3 30-3 40-4 40-4 50+ 50+ Scor Scor Scor Scor Scor Scor Rk Player From To G FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM▼ FG% XPA XPM XP% 1 Steve Christie 1992 2000 144 7 7 87 79 96 78 81 57 28 13 299 234 78.3% 313 309 98.7% 2 Rian Lindell 2003 2012 152 3 3 89 85 79 73 75 51 24 13 270 225 83.3% 306 305 99.7% 3 Scott Norwood 1985 1991 108 3 3 53 47 57 44 61 37 10 2 184 133 72.3% 278 271 97.5% 4 Dan Carpenter 2013 2016 64 1 1 36 36 32 30 36 28 21 14 126 109 86.5% 149 137 91.9% 5 John Leypoldt 1971 1976 65 13 12 25 17 30 22 42 21 11 2 121 74 61.2% 158 147 93.0% 6 Stephen Hauschka 2017 2019 48 14 14 25 24 29 23 21 12 89 73 82.0% 87 84 96.6% 7 Nick Mike-Mayer 1979 1982 47 20 17 26 17 32 14 2 80 48 60.0% 99 95 96.0% 8 Pete Gogolak 1964 1965 28 19 19 15 11 23 14 11 3 7 75 47 62.7% 77 76 98.7% 9 Bruce Alford 1968 1969 25 10 9 15 12 10 7 13 2 2 1 50 31 62.0% 39 38 97.4% 10 Mike Hollis 2002 2002 16 8 7 10 8 10 7 5 3 33 25 75.8% 40 40 100.0% 11 Tyler Bass 2020 2020 11 1 1 4 4 7 4 9 8 6 4 27 21 77.8% 33 32 97.0% 12 Booth Lusteg 1966 1966 14 10 8 5 3 8 4 11 4 4 38 19 50.0% 42 41 97.6% 13 Joe Danelo 1983 1984 23 9 7 10 7 10 3 7 1 36 18 50.0% 52 50 96.2% 14 Mike Mercer 1967 1968 17 3 3 6 3 7 4 14 5 1 1 31 16 51.6% 29 29 100.0% 15 Grant Guthrie 1970 1971 20 3 3 5 3 5 3 9 2 7 2 29 13 44.8% 34 32 94.1% 17 George Jakowenko 1976 1976 11 4 4 6 4 7 4 17 12 70.6% 24 21 87.5% 18 Jake Arians 2001 2001 10 6 6 4 2 11 4 21 12 57.1% 17 16 94.1% 19 Tom Dempsey 1978 1979 19 1 1 5 5 7 4 4 1 17 11 64.7% 49 44 89.8% Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table Generated 12/5/2020. The crazy thing about the stats you show is the new kid is already kicking at the Steve Christie FG % even after his horrid start... outside of Christie and Lindell, H Money was the 3rd best kicker we ever had. He was clutch and last year I never doubted he would make that 47 yarder in the playoff game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Great career. Cut short by that cheap shot. Beautiful young family and lots of money. Enjoy retirement sir, you earned it!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 He was a good kicker and sad he to retire early. The part I like is never having to Huase Money ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I didn't think kickers ever retired, they just keep waiting for the next desperate team to call which usually happens. George Blanda might still be fielding calls but hasn't found the right team fit so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/4/2020 at 5:55 PM, Limeaid said: Erosion was due to illegal cheap shot. Players who do this should be mandated to have part of their pension go to that player. Now that he's retired, he should say if it was because of that. Unless he mentioned it before and I didn't notice And Greg Williams was the DC back then... how strange! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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