Putin Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: And yet the Dolphins are playing better than the Bills right now. I think that's all that will matter for winning the division? They don't go up 23-9 in their gsmes and lose, at least not lately... Bills taking a lead and then usually letting the other team make a game of it is not teally a gameplan for long term success IMO. As far as Tua, yeah, way too early, but so far he's looking "clean", as some would say. Where Allen at times still looks "messy". Of course he’s looking clean the defense and special teams doing all the work , let’s see what happens when he actually has to get dirty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, Putin said: I just can’t imagine Allen having the same numbers as Tua in the last 3 games and Bills winning a single game , Exactly. Allen is the main reason the Bills are winning. Tua is just managing the game. He hasn't ****ed up but he hasn't been a difference maker either. Granted he has only played a couple of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: And yet the Dolphins are playing better than the Bills right now. I think that's all that will matter for winning the division? They don't go up 23-9 in their games and lose, at least not lately... Bills taking a lead and then usually letting the other team make a game of it is not teally a gameplan for long term success IMO. As far as Tua, yeah, way too early, but so far he's looking "clean", as some would say. Where Allen at times still looks "messy". the bills are 7-3 gene. that's all you need to look at right now. you know what the problem is? you're scared of success. it's not something you're used to, so when it looks at you in the face, there's a certain panic and denial. it's ok to enjoy what's happening without creating a dooms day scenario. i bet this is how a lot of your life goes...isn't it gene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: No, it isn't. Record alone is not the full story. We all know this to be true, I thought... i.e. Steelers are not winning the SB. ok so they are 7-3 against a schedule thats yielded 7 out of 10 opponents at 6-3 or better. that makes it even more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: McDermott said he didn't think that was going to be the Hail Mary play... He assumed there were two more plays, kinda like how last week Pete Carroll expected the Bills to run more. That's face palm type coaching... That's due to the Bills defense more than anything. It doesn't matter. It's not like Hopkins was running solo down the field. They had 3 guys bracketing him and Hopkins out jumped them all. That's not coaching, that's Tre White, Micah Hyde and Poyer getting out jumped. For someone that has a lot of poor predictions, you always seem to be firm on your future ones. 6 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: No, it isn't. Record alone is not the full story. We all know this to be true, I thought... i.e. Steelers are not winning the SB. Edit: the Bills have more of a problem with 1st half success than I have with their w/l success... Gene, it Parcell's wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Yeah, I mean we still need to see if he can do that. I'm not crowning him anything. I just think as a team, the Dolphins are rising and the Bills are a bit up and down. Up and down yes but what about all the injuries that we have on defense and OL and if not for a miracle we’d be 8-2 , If we can get healthy come playoffs this team will be playing in the AFC championship game !! GO Bills !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 15 hours ago, High Football IQ said: I was starting to feel really good about this teamagain after last week but this loss yesterday was a very Billsy type of debacle that will be talked about for years to come unless this team somehow wins a SB this year which is very unlikely. Therefore any optimism i had has become morose and I feel somewhat empty knowing this team is on borrowed time in terms of their current division lead and even making the playoffs this year as a wildcard may be asking too much given this teams glaring deficiencies on both sides of the ball. The term for this moroseness is “fair weather fan”, the likes of which are a dime a dozen. So take a number. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Looking at the schedules, and the way the Dolphins D is playing, odds are they win the div over the Bills. The Hail Murray shows the problems with both the players on the D, and coaching, how that play was defended... 28 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: And yet the Dolphins are playing better than the Bills right now. I think that's all that will matter for winning the division? They don't go up 23-9 in their games and lose, at least not lately... Bills taking a lead and then usually letting the other team make a game of it is not teally a gameplan for long term success IMO. As far as Tua, yeah, way too early, but so far he's looking "clean", as some would say. Where Allen at times still looks "messy". 14 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: No, it isn't. Record alone is not the full story. We all know this to be true, I thought... i.e. Steelers are not winning the SB. Quote Edit: the Bills have more of a problem with 1st half success than I have with their w/l success... 21 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Yeah, I mean we still need to see if he can do that. I'm not crowning him anything. I just think as a team, the Dolphins are rising and the Bills are a bit up and down. what's up with this guy? he wasn't here last week ( lets hear the excuse) when the bills won, was he. no, but he makes his rounds now after a loss. talking ***** about the bills and how they'll lose the division to the fins. some fan right here folks. pretty adamant about it as well. like, if the fins do win the division he will be all up in everybody's face about it, gloating. because that's what a true bills fan does. constantly putting the team and coaches down and showing up after a loss, talking *****. here's to hoping the bills win the division, because that's what a true bills fans does, hope for the best for their team unlike this cat here they call, gene. add another great quote by this awesome bills fan they call, gene. 5 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Yeah, that part is impressive. But the Next time the Bills play, the Dolphis will have a 7-3 record with an easier schedule the rest of the way. Odds are, they finish ahead. Edited November 17, 2020 by A Firm Tree Does Not Fear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: There is truth to that sure, but at the same time that's not all there is to it. I mean, we won't be figuring anything out here, the Bills and Dolphins will be doing that. It just looks like the Dolphins will at some point pass the Bills in the next 3 games and that is all she wrote IMO. "all she wrote"....these next 3 games haven't happened. So how in the hell is this in the past tense? Parcell's statement is a firm black and white statement. It's either you agree or don't....there is no half truth here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Yeah, that part is impressive. But the Next time the Bills play, the Dolphis will have a 7-3 record with an easier schedule the rest of the way. Odds are, they finish ahead. Miami has: at Broncos at Jets Bengals KC NE at Raiders at Bills The next 3 are favorable but look at the last 4 games. I wouldn't call that easy. As for the Bills they have Chargers at SF Steelers at Broncos at NE Dolphins Both teams have really tough games vs KC and Pitt respectively. Miami may have a slightly easier schedule but I think it will come down to week 17 and that game is in Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 @Gene1973 I would like to propose a wager on this Bills/Dolphins thing you're obsessing over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: I said "it looks like to me". My goodness... I only "gamble" with stocks. You seem pretty sure of yourself and the Dolphins. I'll give you 3.5/1 that the Bills finish regular season with a better record than the fish. Deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 17 hours ago, JerseyBills said: After the catch last night, I immediately left my house. I put my phone on the passenger seat of my car and took off with no destination in mind. I hit the power on my radio, probably out of pure habit and instantly shut it off as sports talk blared through the speakers. I was in shock. I was upset. A familiar feeling I've experienced for ar least 13 years overtook my body, My beloved Bills just lost another "Billsy" game and I was upset about it! After feelings of pure joy and euphoria for about 2.5 minutes , these feelings suddenly attacked me! A funny thing happened though, the last 14 years of being 18+ and expecting that Billsy loss hangover, I wake up still feeling great about my Beloved Bills, in November!! They were a fluke play away from beating a very good team. They overcame adversity with the Covid situation, with a rough 2nd half , but still took the lead with 35 seconds remaining! I wake up realizing this team is for real Played another very good team close for 60 minutes Yes they took the L but through 10 games ,a 7-3 record, they proved they're the real deal and legit SB contenders , in my eyes.. I felt much better about this loss tan I did the New England win. We played better against a much better opponent, and should have won but for a miracle. For me, it was easy to take. In contrast, we probably should have lost against NE, played much more poorly, and NE is TERRIBLE this year. Shows you the value, or lack thereof, of wins and losses in assessing if a team is good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Yeah, that part is impressive. But the Next time the Bills play, the Dolphis will have a 7-3 record with an easier schedule the rest of the way. Odds are, they finish ahead. say you, but literally not any odds making entity or simulations.... so ya. have fun with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I said "it looks like to me". My goodness... The last sentence is written in the past tense Gene....my goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: @Gene1973 I would like to propose a wager on this Bills/Dolphins thing you're obsessing over I wouldn’t take that bet because Bills will be resting their starters for the playoffs, and who knows we may still win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: I've never bet on sports, it seemes irresponsible, especially in these COVID times... thats probably for the best in your case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: I've never bet on sports, it seemes irresponsible, especially in these COVID times... The fish have roughly 20% chance of winning the AFCE if I'm reading it right. I'm giving you slightly worse odds because you seem so sure of yourself and your Dolphins. I thought for sure you'd be all over this wager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Keep making predictions.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I think the only fans who don't think the Dolphins are charging are Bills fans of a certain persuasion? Most talking heads, whom many are ex-players, see it like I do. It's also an opinion? #MYGOODNESS saying that and saying they are more likely than not, gonna win the division are different things. they are coming on. but i've seen this topic come up plenty of times this week on tv and the end of the convo almost always ends with some form of "bills are still the favorites but the fins are coming".... so no, i think you're making that up to fit a narrative. you've seen one or 2 people say that and twisted it into "everyone agrees with me". sorry, not true. Edited November 17, 2020 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: I will, it's part of the fun of sports! Did we beat the Patriots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 @Gene1973...you're taking it on the chin here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I don't follow... Just wondering if that prediction came true....I don't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: Really? I don't think so... However, I have no issue with being proven wrong. Allen is way better than I thought he'd ever be for example. that's nice. i get you like the interaction with other people, but you don't need all interactions to be negative interactions. i'm sure you have many positives about you that we would all appreciate. instead of just predicting the failure of the team you love, why don't you let us know about some of your interests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: I'm not the one who is generally reacting negatively... I love you guys. so...interests? christmas is coming after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Dunno, even Chris Simms and Kyle Brandt see it like this now. Two of the biggest Bills/Allen cheerleafers out there... I'm not the one who is generally reacting negatively... I love you guys. they've said we need to watch out and that they are coming. they arent wrong. neither have said they are the prohibitive favorites. almost nobody is saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 This team has the benefit of facing every great offense in league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I figured I'd throw that out there, as now it seems all the Bills players love one another. We fans should love one another as well. Even if we disagree most of the time. do you have messed up interests or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I figured I'd throw that out there, as now it seems all the Bills players love one another. We fans should love one another as well. Even if we disagree most of the time. Kyle Brandt was asked if this is the Bills division, he flat out said no. He also, with Kay Adams, believes it comes down to the wk17 game with the Dolphins. this doesnt mean that miami is the favorite. saying something comes down to week 17 doesnt mean the fins are the favorite. this isnt that hard, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) Lets see how MIA handles being road favorites. DEN and NYJ are should be wins same with Cincy at home. If all 3 phases dont play well can they win those games? How do they handle NE, KC, LV. If those are L's they would need to beat Buffalo and finish with more wins b/c Buffalo will have the better division record for tie breaker. Edited November 17, 2020 by Mat68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 17 hours ago, Gene1973 said: Nope! Dolphins will win AFCE... Well with guys like you cheering them on... Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 At the end of the day can Miami play better than they played over the last month? I would argue they cant. Has Buffalo played a complete game in all 3 phases? I dont think so. Buffalo playing at a sub optimal level is still above MIA. Buffalo has 3 should be wins and 3 tough games. I put Mia in that tough category. Mia has 3 should be wins and 4 tough games. Out of Buffalos tough games they beat 2 of the teams already and Mia faces 2 teams that beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 If you would have offered me a split between Seattle and Arizona, I take it all day. But man, that loss hurts. That being said, it does feel good to be in a place as a fan where a painful loss potentially just means a different 1st round game, vs seeing the Pats still own the division or our playoff hopes are dashed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 12 hours ago, Greg S said: I definitely expect them to be 8-3 once they play the Chargers. Sitting on this loss for two weeks has to be tough. I expect they will come out with a solid performance in two weeks. Herbert is good but his team isn't. I think the Bills should beat San Diego and Denver comfortably. They can be competitive with an excellent chance of beating San Francisco, New England, Miami. They have a chance of beating Pittsburgh, but a lot of things have to go right, unlike the last game against Arizona. That is not a prediction of running the table or even going 5-1. Both outcomes are possible, but lots of unforeseen obstacles can get in the way of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, TigerJ said: I think the Bills should beat San Diego and Denver comfortably. They can be competitive with an excellent chance of beating San Francisco, New England, Miami. They have a chance of beating Pittsburgh, but a lot of things have to go right, unlike the last game against Arizona. That is not a prediction of running the table or even going 5-1. Both outcomes are possible, but lots of unforeseen obstacles can get in the way of that. They need to ride this latest wave of disappointment and grow that chip on their shoulder. The entire team has yet to play their best game. If they can get healthy, reduce the penalties, and play disciplined, they can beat whoever they need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Wake you feeling refreshed? Well, yes, but I was at work.. 😴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, BringBackFlutie said: They need to ride this latest wave of disappointment and grow that chip on their shoulder. The entire team has yet to play their best game. If they can get healthy, reduce the penalties, and play disciplined, they can beat whoever they need to. Frankly, I just worry about the weather forecast when we play the Chargers. If weather forces us to convert to a run first offense again, that just isn’t our strength, no matter how much that chip has grown. If the weather allows for it, I have confidence that this offense will come out and make a huge statement for a full 60 minutes, without the 3rd quarter let down. If the weather allows for it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 5 hours ago, BobBelcher said: Frankly, I just worry about the weather forecast when we play the Chargers. If weather forces us to convert to a run first offense again, that just isn’t our strength, no matter how much that chip has grown. If the weather allows for it, I have confidence that this offense will come out and make a huge statement for a full 60 minutes, without the 3rd quarter let down. If the weather allows for it.... It is strange that a cold weather football team has trouble running the ball. Given the weather of the Northeast especially WNY you would think having a good run game would be a top priority. I love the fact that Josh throws it all over the place for big plays but teams like Buffalo have to be able to pound the rock late in the season and playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I have thought too much about why I was not bothered by that game and have several reasons: 1) we rarely play well on the west coast 2) Cardinals were the much more desperate team 3) the Cardinals are a really good team 4) we did not play well for long periods of time 5) Josh still made the plays to win it in the final minutes 6) most importantly, Hopkins made the kind of play that happens a few times a year that is more luck than anything. For all these reasons I do not believe this game will cost us the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 2:10 PM, Gene1973 said: Looking at the schedules, and the way the Dolphins D is playing, odds are they win the div over the Bills. The Hail Murray shows the problems with both the players on the D, and coaching, how that play was defended... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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