Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Sure, have to always constantly re-evaluate the situation. Situation atm is the Dolphins are playing better than both the Bills and Pats. You don't seem to want to re-evaluate. You like to make atm firm statements about the future....until it doesn't come true and then we "re-evaluate". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cDAVIS Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Another Fan said: I pretty much agreed with everything you wrote except being legit SB contenders. I still have a hard time believing the team is there just yet. But yeah it definitely doesn’t feel like the 2009 McKelvin fumble debacle That day ruined me for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 We have the inside track and the Fish are winning games with special teams plays and D. Tua hasn't been all that impressive, and as teams get film on him they'll slow him down even further. I remain optimistic about us winning the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I don't think saying the Dolphins are playing better than the Bills is an errant statement. Bills still can't figure out 3rd QTR's ' You specifically said the Dolphins are winning the east. Bills can't figure out 3rd quarters but the Dolphins certainly have. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/3rd-quarter-points-per-game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: I didn't say anything about the Dolphins' 3rd QTR's. For the Bills, the 3rd QTR issue is a problem going on 2 seasons now... Other than rush defense, 3rd QTR offense us the biggest issue with this team. It doesn't matter that you didn't bring up the Dolphins. I brought them up because you're criticizing the Bills 3rd quarter offense but the Dolphins, who have actually been worse, but you're not saying it's an issue with them. So basically: Bills 3rd quarter offensive woes is a problem. Dolphins 3rd quarter offensive woes, not a problem and will win the East. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 They didnt play great, Allen drove down and had a probable game winning drive on the road. Arizona made a 1% play to win. I have disected that play everyway possible. The final play lays at 2 peoples feet imo. 1. Mcdermott. He bailed out Arizona by calling the TO. No time to think just call the play. Murray is still young and I dont believe he goes against his instict to roll out right. I firmly believe thats what Kingsberry talked to Murray about on that play. Roll out left where Hopkins will be in the endzone. 2. Poyer. The only defender in position to make the play was White. Poyer ran over, poorly timed his jump, closed his eyes and most importantly knock White out of the way. In the replay there is another set of black gloves on the ball. Its Whites, than Poyer sent him flying 5 yards. Overall, Buffalo is in position to get healthy at the bye. The oline should be at full strength for the first time all season. The defense is playing better. They should be near full strength too. With 6 games remaining I see 3 where Buffalo is favored. LAC, SF, DEN. That takes them to 10 wins. The other 3 are close games imo. PIT, NE, MIA. Honestly, Buffalo matches up well with both NE and MIA. Pit is measuring stick and think I could see them winning that one too. Undefeated doesnt happen. They will slip up. Buffalo needs to win those favored and beat MIA to win the division imo. They are in position to get momentum they get hot now win tough games they are in a great place headind into the playoffs. Playing good before Thanksgiving isnt nearly as important as playing good after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technobot Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, High Football IQ said: This is simply false, I posted plenty after the Seahawks game and was extremely happy with the result (although in hindsight the win may prove to be somewhat misleading because the seahawks have lost 3 of 4 games and have the worst defense in the league, plus we only won by 10 points despite 4 turnovers, 5 sacks, etc). The biggest concern and what is going to keep me up at night is that the Dolphins aren't going to lose another game anytime soon while the bills margin for error is always razor thin since they are .500 team since the 4-0 start and will likely continue that trend in the final 6 games given their glaring deficiencies. So yes it's ok to be depressed and most other fans current optimism will likely crumble in the coming week as well once Miami takes the division lead for good and the season finale is possibly rendered meaningless. Bills beat a good team, but it doesn't count because you're a Dolphins fan masquerading as a Bills hater. Bills lose to a good team on a Hail Mary, 1/100 longshot, Bills have lost in the most Billsy way possible. The football gods have cursed us for this atrocity! And then you followup with saying that the Dolphins, get ready for this... after starting the year 1-3 are in the middle of a 12 game winning streak to coast to a division win at 13-3. Chiefs and Steelers fans are terrified and suffering sleepless nights (just like all of us Bills fans) dreading the Dolphins juggernaut that will easily win the conference. Dolphins are good but this is next level trolling and I can't believe I took the bait even after you jumped the shark weeks ago. You're a weather vane, after the Seahawks win you were prancing and singing the praises, convinced the Bills would make a playoff run and now you're suffering sleepless nights because the Bills lost the division in week 10 and will be a 1 and done anyway if they even make the playoffs. Just come out and say it, the Bills are in the middle of a 7 game losing streak. For your alleged sleepless nights, try alcohol. It worked for me after Sunday and I slept just fine, nevermind the raging hangover on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 We entered the game 3rd place in the conference and we left it 3rd place in the conference. What's there to feel pessimistic about? I don't think we're a legit SB contender this year. We could maybe get lucky against the good teams if they hand the game to us, but on even footing we aren't there yet, and that's ok. People are going to have to get used tot he fact that even when you're pretty good, you're going to lose games you should have won. It happens to every t4eam in the league - the Chiefs dumped to the Raiders, Baltimore to NE, etc, It happens, and it's not the end of the world. Be happy we have a better team than most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I don't see why anyone's outlook should have changed. The Bills played pretty well, scored 30 points, defense played alright despite having to deal with a bunch of turnovers by the O, we had our offense go down the field and take the lead, and ultimately lost on a fluke play. The Bills should still wind up with like 11 or 12 wins this year I'd think. The Miami game looks key but other than Pittsburgh our schedule is pretty manageable against mostly bottom feeders or teams decimated by injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Gene1973 said: Nope! Dolphins will win AFCE... Hate to agree with you but that's what I think as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, wvbillsfan said: Or at least excited about what’s going on. You’d think this team and coaching staff was a bunch of bums even though we are about to go to the playoffs 3 out of 4 under the new regime. Right? All of sudden the Bills are relevant and the opinions of the talking heads matter. And, believe it or not, the team isn't perfect on both sides of the ball, in a shortened off-season, during a pandemic, where they're still 4-0 in the division and 7-3 overall, thanks to two great players making an insane play. You'd think this was Music City 2.0 instead of a non conference game before a bye. Edited November 17, 2020 by Coffeesforclosers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, High Football IQ said: This is simply false, I posted plenty after the Seahawks game and was extremely happy with the result (although in hindsight the win may prove to be somewhat misleading because the seahawks have lost 3 of 4 games and have the worst defense in the league, plus we only won by 10 points despite 4 turnovers, 5 sacks, etc). The biggest concern and what is going to keep me up at night is that the Dolphins aren't going to lose another game anytime soon while the bills margin for error is always razor thin since they are .500 team since the 4-0 start and will likely continue that trend in the final 6 games given their glaring deficiencies. So yes it's ok to be depressed and most other fans current optimism will likely crumble in the coming week as well once Miami takes the division lead for good and the season finale is possibly rendered meaningless. How do you consider the chiefs pats raiders and bills as definite wins for the Dolphins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 The fish will freeze up in week 17....we win the decisive game..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Yes- I still think we are going to the super bowl where we will beat the LA Rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCNC Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Feeling optimistic about reaching playoffs. Not too optimistic about going far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beast Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 The Bills are about to reel off 10 straight wins culminating with a Lombardi trophy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: BuT tHiS tEaM iS hOrIbLe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: We have the inside track and the Fish are winning games with special teams plays and D. Tua hasn't been all that impressive, and as teams get film on him they'll slow him down even further. I remain optimistic about us winning the division. THANK YOU! Was waiting to see someone mention this. The Dolphin love is outta control They beat 2 winning teams. Rams/Cards. In those 2 games they had a 70 and 80 yard Fumble return TDs and 88 yard punt return! That's not sustainable. I get it, they look good but I still say their ceiling is 2019 Bills, 9-10 win team. They're going to be very good in 21 and on but I just don't see it this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 How can anyone not be optimistic? Our first two losses were to really good teams with more rest than us and this loss was to a really good team that needed a hail mary to beat us, while we had our 4 and 5 string CB on the field most of the day. We have 6 weeks to work out the kinks but in the Playoffs we have a good chance against everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, JerseyBills said: See I agree completely but just 2.5 weeks ago they rushed for nearly 200 and got the W Cards were the 2nd best run team in the game and besides 5-6 big runs, we stood tall. We still didn't run effectively but put up 30 and took a 4 point lead with 35 sec. So the gameplan worked. I like the way you think OP. The gameplan did work. It worked on a day Josh Allen was not at the top of his game. A day when yes, the Bills could have used more production running the football. Myself personally, like the passing game RB's need a certain amount of touches to get a feel for what the opposition is doing. Singletary and Moss dividing play time making it even harder. The O spends most of its time in pass protection. It boils down to this, If Buffalo wants to run the ball well it will have to get the RB's more involved IMO. Buffalo has a couple of players I really think can help this Offense start hitting on all cylinders IMO. T J Yeldon for his catching abilities coming out of the back field and Duke Williams for size at the WR position. The Duke is a WR that plays like a TE IMO. I think he gives Allen the larger go to security blanket lacking from the Bills TE position IMO. Buffalo vs Arizona very well could have been a preview to the Superbowl. Edited November 17, 2020 by Figster 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Figster said: I like the way you think OP. The gameplan did work. It worked on a day Josh Allen was not at the top of his game. A day when yes, the Bills could have used more production running the football. Myself personally, like the passing game RB's need a certain amount of touches to get a feel for what the opposition is doing. Singletary and Moss dividing play time making it even harder. The O spends most of its time in pass protection. It boils down to this, If Buffalo wants to run the ball well it will have to get the RB's more involved IMO. Buffalo has a couple of players I really think can help this Offense start hitting on all cylinders IMO. T J Yeldon with his catching abilities coming out of the back field and Duke Williams for size at the WR position. The Duke is a WR that plays like a TE IMO. I think he gives Allen the larger go to security blanket lacking from the Bills TE position IMO. Buffalo vs Arizona very well could have been a preview to the Superbowl. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Yeldon replace Motor for a game just to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: Wouldn’t surprise me to see Yeldon replace Motor for a game just to see. This is what I would like to see and its not a knock on motor. The same goes for Duke Williams. The Bills WR position overall is performing at a very high level IMO. The reason I want to see Duke Williams on the field is because Buffalo's TE position is not producing. Use the bigger bodied Duke to soften up and work the middle of the football field. In turn, help the Bills rushing attack. I personally think used properly Duke Williams could become a big weapon in the Bills arsenal IMO. WR/hybrid TE I'm sure J K is watching Josh Allen and the Bills O operate and thinking man what they could do with some production from the TE position. Edited November 17, 2020 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 hours ago, Bills fan since 87 said: Shut up Gene.... with a name like Gene...I get he’s not optimistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: And yet the Dolphins are playing better, in their 1st year rebuilding... Based on what? And first year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: And yet the Dolphins are playing better, in their 1st year rebuilding... The Bills have beat the most teams in the NFL with winning records and just lost on a Hail Mary. You know why they are called Hail Mary’s? But keep tooting that Dolphins are playing better, negative Bills schtick. Year one of rebuilding lol. I guess the 2019 Dolphins don’t count as a rebuilding year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: The Bills have beat the most teams in the NFL with winning records and just lost on a Hail Mary. You know why they are called Hail Mary’s? But keep tooting that Dolphins are playing better, negative Bills schtick. Year one of rebuilding lol. I guess the 2019 Dolphins don’t count as a rebuilding year. You're feeding the squirrel. He's just here to be provocative. Or his real name is Jerry Sullivan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: You're feeding the squirrel. He's just here to be provocative. Or his real name is Jerry Sullivan. I like to feed things. I fed a deer the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I like to feed things. I fed a deer the other day. No you didn’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, teef said: No you didn’t. I threw a piece of bread and an apple out in my back. The deer at it because both were gone this morning. No other animal, in my Asian opinion, would have taken those pieces of food. The deer hangout there all the time. They do not fear me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I threw a piece of bread and an apple out in my back. The deer at it because both were gone this morning. No other animal, in my Asian opinion, would have taken those pieces of food. The deer hangout there all the time. They do not fear me. who feeds deer? you ever heard of ticks bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: First year with the rookie QB, akin to 2018 Bills. that's not how it works. people don't consider this mcd's 3rd year, do they? so...why do you feel miami is playing better? on what metric? you like drama gene...don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, teef said: who feeds deer? you ever heard of ticks bro? This is in Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: This is in Japan. they also have cat cafes. that's how stupid that ***** is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: I feel they are a better coached team, especially defensively. Tua so far looks to meet all the hype, and why some pundits had him above Allen before he even took an NFL snap. so based on nothing? tua has played what...2 games? there is no way you would ever take any member of the bills after 2 games and put them on a pedestal. if fact, i have a feeling you'd call someone out for it. am i wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: First year with the rookie QB, akin to 2018 Bills. That doesn't make it a rebuilding year lol. The first year of the new coaching staff and dismantling of the team is the rebuilding year. They were one of the highest spending teams in free agency this past year lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I feel they are a better coached team, especially defensively. Tua so far looks to meet all the hype, and why some pundits had him above Allen before he even took an NFL snap. Tua really hasn't done anything. Miami has been winning with D and ST. Allen has how many 4th quarter comebacks in his career. Lets see Tua rally the Dolphins when they are losing the 4th quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: Hmm, some Bills fans were touting Allen's potential, even before he played a reg season game. They were proven out to be correct, not sure why this can't be correct for Tua... touting potential, sure. but how many fan refused to think allen could ever be a good qb. even now many still doubt him. also, we're talking about your comment, not the comments of others this isn't a very good argument. if allen had played only two games buffalo, and people were praising him, you'd be the first on here saying it's only been two games. am i wrong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Looking at the schedules, and the way the Dolphins D is playing, odds are they win the div over the Bills. The Hail Murray shows the problems with both the players on the D, and coaching, how that play was defended... Okay Gene, you just can't be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Greg S said: Tua really hasn't done anything. Miami has been winning with D and ST. Allen has how many 4th quarter comebacks in his career. Lets see Tua rally the Dolphins when they are losing the 4th quarter. I just can’t imagine Allen having the same numbers as Tua in the last 3 games and Bills winning a single game , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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