Kemp Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Oh. He didn't. 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 The Left don't care, it bought them time to distract from Clueless Joe and Phony Nancy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Didn't they try this smear tactic already? WHen it happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 AP, NY Times, Fox News, and of course The Atlantic have confirmed the initial story. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Didn't they try this smear tactic already? WHen it happened? Yes, this hoax was brought up 2 years ago and was disproved. It is just being recycled because the Left is running out of imagination. Just now, wAcKy ZeBrA said: AP, NY Times, Fox News, and of course The Atlantic have confirmed the initial story. Quit CRUSADING, you already had one thread banned for this horseshit. All "sources" are anonymous, ie. not worthashit. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 This is the new thread. The mods will shut it down if need be. Seems pretty weird we’re not allowed to have a thread about the most talked about political story in the country in the politics forum. Keep it civil third and long, and all should be okay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: This is the new thread. The mods will shut it down if need be. Seems pretty weird we’re not allowed to have a thread about the most talked about political story in the country in the politics forum. Keep it civil third and long, and all should be okay. It's a hyped up rehash of a two year old hoax designed to bash Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Recycling fake stories now is what 2020 is about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 45 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: AP, NY Times, Fox News, and of course The Atlantic have confirmed the initial story. That type of statement requires a link..........several in fact Otherwise, it is just wind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: That type of statement requires a link..........several in fact Otherwise, it is just wind. Yes, Whole point of PPP Post by DR. 51 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: AP, NY Times, Fox News, and of course The Atlantic have confirmed the initial story. Would love to see the evidence of this. That would enrich my mind! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Yes, Whole point of PPP Post by DR. Would love to see the evidence of this. That would enrich my mind! What Trump is accused of saying is just not in character with Trump's actions and other words regarding the military. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 So does this mean the left doesn't believe John Bolton anymore? So weird. He was your bestie just a few weeks ago! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 It's fun to see the Trump losers and suckers in denial. The guy has revealed himself to be human garbage over and over again... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 43 minutes ago, B-Man said: That type of statement requires a link..........several in fact Otherwise, it is just wind. https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/fox-news-reporter-confirmed-atlantics-story-about-trump-insulting-fallen-troops-fox-hosts https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/09/corroboration-atlantic-report-trump-troops-soldiers-losers-cemetary-amputees.html https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-correspondent-confirms-trump-said-dead-us-troops-losers-2020-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 The left is projecting 24/7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: What Trump is accused of saying is just not in character with Trump's actions and other words regarding the military. bull####. His other words? You mean the ones where he isn't bashing miliary people. Or the ones where he is? You really are a sucker...the fool born in your minute. Edited September 4, 2020 by Buftex 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Buftex said: https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/fox-news-reporter-confirmed-atlantics-story-about-trump-insulting-fallen-troops-fox-hosts Fox News reporter gets anonymous person to confirm other anonymous people who refuse to be named because of twitter bullies. But suddenly no one on the left wants to listen to John Bolton, who was there and said none of it happened? Talk about someone being a sucker. But hey...you really got Trump now. The walls are closing in! His final days are here! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 33 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: What Trump is accused of saying is just not in character with Trump's actions and other words regarding the military. I know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: This is the new thread. The mods will shut it down if need be. Seems pretty weird we’re not allowed to have a thread about the most talked about political story in the country in the politics forum. Keep it civil third and long, and all should be okay. or.. you know, stop crying to mommy, right wZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Why did anyone believe this in the first place? Because of what he said about McCain? "It was a debate!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) And Bolton's words carry the most weight. He's obviously got an axe to grind so if this were true, he would have had no qualms admitting it. Edited September 5, 2020 by Doc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Doc said: And Bolton's words carry the most weight. He's obviously got an axe to grind so if this if this were true, he would have had no qualms admitting it. Lost on otherwise reasonable libs. I said a while ago, John Bolton is Cindy Sheehan with a moustache. Once the left was done with him, that was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: What Trump is accused of saying is just not in character with Trump's actions and other words regarding the military. I could see him saying that about ppp jackasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Doc said: And Bolton's words carry the most weight. He's obviously got an axe to grind so if this were true, he would have had no qualms admitting it. It is ironic that now you who were criticizing Bolton a few weeks back, are now aciting as though you take his word. It goes both ways. There are other possible interpretations for Bolton: 1- He is a lifelong Republican who got roasted by the party for speaking out about their crappy president, and has been mostly criticized by the left for being a coward...resisting testifying at the impeachment hearing, but then writing a "tell all", for monatary gain. He is a man without a party right now...why not suck up to Lumpy one more time? He is a DC creature...Dems are never going to accept him...and for better or worse, whatever is left of the Repulican party is where some of his friends reside. 2- He could be senstitive to the deserved criticism that he, and other former Trump insiders who spoke out after the fact: "it this was happening, didn't you see it as your responsibilty to speak out then?" Edited September 5, 2020 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: Why did anyone believe this in the first place? Because of what he said about McCain? "It was a debate!" I do not believe the McCain comments (there were a number of comments and tweets) were during a debate, but an interview. Trump has a lot of nice things to say about the military when they can benefit his self-image...more props for his fragile ego. Trump's whole world view is based on "winners" and "losers", not right or wrong. People who make money are "winners" and those who don't are "losers". He doesn't have any concept of the notion of sacrifice for a greater good. Then there are stories like this...the guy has some very strange ideas about military service. https://www.newsweek.com/tiffany-trump-child-support-payments-would-have-been-stopped-donald-if-she-joined-military-prenup-1442203 .. 46 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Lost on otherwise reasonable libs. I said a while ago, John Bolton is Cindy Sheehan with a moustache. Once the left was done with him, that was it. And now he is just looking for somebody to love him Edited September 5, 2020 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SectionC3 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Kemp said: Oh. He didn't. Semi-educated guess: Kelly is one of the sources for the original report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, Buftex said: It is ironic that now you who were criticizing Bolton a few weeks back, are now aciting as though you take his word. It goes both ways. There are other possible interpretations for Bolton: 1- He is a lifelong Republican who got roasted by the party for speaking out about their crappy president, and has been mostly criticized by the left for being a coward...resisting testifying at the impeachment hearing, but then writing a "tell all", for monatary gain. He is a man without a party right now...why not suck up to Lumpy one more time? He is a DC creature...Dems are never going to accept him...and for better or worse, whatever is left of the Repulican party is where some of his friends reside. 2- He could be senstitive to the deserved criticism that he, and other former Trump insiders who spoke out after the fact: "it this was happening, didn't you see it as your responsibilty to speak out then?" Sure, maybe it's some elaborate scheme to get back in the good graces of Trump and/or the Repub party. Or maybe what was alleged to have happened never really did and he is telling the truth in this particular instance, when he really has no reason to lie since he burned any bridges that were left? Like he said, it would have been another juicy thing to add to his book. 9 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Semi-educated guess: Kelly is one of the sources for the original report. Does Kelly strike you as the kind of guy who would be worried about Twitter bullies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Sure, maybe it's some elaborate scheme to get back in the good graces of Trump and/or the Repub party. Or maybe what was alleged to have happened never really did and he is telling the truth in this particular instance, when he really has no reason to lie since he burned any bridges that were left? Like he said, it would have been another juicy thing to add to his book. Does Kelly strike you as the kind of guy who would be worried about Twitter bullies? No. But he’s also not the type to kiss and tell in public about his time in the WH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Buftex said: https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/fox-news-reporter-confirmed-atlantics-story-about-trump-insulting-fallen-troops-fox-hosts https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/09/corroboration-atlantic-report-trump-troops-soldiers-losers-cemetary-amputees.html https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-correspondent-confirms-trump-said-dead-us-troops-losers-2020-9 Try not to be distracted by shiny objects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 45 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Try not to be distracted by shiny objects. Just complying with B-man's request for links. 53 minutes ago, Doc said: Does Kelly strike you as the kind of guy who would be worried about Twitter bullies? I don't guess he is worried about Twitter bullies, but I think he, as a soldier, won't speak out. It is pretty clear that "Trumps' generals" all have a level of disdain for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Close Andy Borowitz · 10 hrs · Angry Trump Supporters Cancel Longtime Subscriptions To The Atlantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Brown Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Doc said: And Bolton's words carry the most weight. He's obviously got an axe to grind so if this were true, he would have had no qualms admitting it. Yeah It seems like a political hit job because of that and nobody going on record. It looked like they sprinkled in his attacks on McCain in the past to make the disparaging quotes about the military at large more believable. It's also two months before an election and this happened in 2018. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Doc said: And Bolton's words carry the most weight. He's obviously got an axe to grind so if this were true, he would have had no qualms admitting it. So you believe everything Bolton said about Trump. Now Trump is saying he even phoned Melania back in Washington to say how disappointed he was that he couldn’t go to the military cemetery outside of Paris. In fact, Melania was with him in Paris. He just made up his alibi. https://t.co/pYErQ3yMB6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Buftex said: It is ironic that now you who were criticizing Bolton a few weeks back, are now aciting as though you take his word. It goes both ways. There are other possible interpretations for Bolton: 1- He is a lifelong Republican who got roasted by the party for speaking out about their crappy president, and has been mostly criticized by the left for being a coward...resisting testifying at the impeachment hearing, but then writing a "tell all", for monatary gain. He is a man without a party right now...why not suck up to Lumpy one more time? He is a DC creature...Dems are never going to accept him...and for better or worse, whatever is left of the Repulican party is where some of his friends reside. 2- He could be senstitive to the deserved criticism that he, and other former Trump insiders who spoke out after the fact: "it this was happening, didn't you see it as your responsibilty to speak out then?" That logic got twisted into a pretzel or two. It reminds me of the logic you used to defend the legitimacy of the NBA when I gave you the results four years in advance....well I guess three years in advance, but the next four finals, all spot on. What is stopping a reporter from claiming unnamed sources told him Biden does more than sniff the hair of 13 year olds? Would Kemp start a thread about how Obama hadn't refuted it even if others had? Would you twist around to show how this was "in character" ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: That logic got twisted into a pretzel or two. It reminds me of the logic you used to defend the legitimacy of the NBA when I gave you the results four years in advance....well I guess three years in advance, but the next four finals, all spot on. What is stopping a reporter from claiming unnamed sources told him Biden does more than sniff the hair of 13 year olds? Would Kemp start a thread about how Obama hadn't refuted it even if others had? Would you twist around to show how this was "in character" ? Exactly. When we start making convenient assumptions based off our opinion (in this case, heavily swayed) and not based solely off of facts presented, well... We become the cancel culture we all hate. The danger of quoting “anonymous sources”, is it doesn’t allow the accused the chance to confront the accuser. It’s a he-said she-said scenario where the only stakes in it belong to the accused. While this doesn’t constitute illegal, our 6th amendment was put into place for this very reason. What’s happening today is people are bypassing the “proof” aspect when accusing. It’s called a baseless claim. No witnesses or evidence, yet those who don’t like the accused say “Guilty!”. I Know Kemp and others are trolling, but I truly hope those that have already decided guilt for someone they hate because it “sounds right”, never find themselves in such a scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, DFT said: I Know Kemp and others are trolling, but I truly hope those that have already decided guilt for someone they hate because it “sounds right”, never find themselves in such a scenario. They don’t care, because in their minds universal health care will be the cure for everything that’s wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/515248-trump-attacks-fox-news-reporter-after-she-backs-up-key-details-of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 The Atlantic’s Anonymously-Sourced Article Jump Starts The Permanent Pre-Election Anti-Trump Crisis News Cycle As with Russia collusion reporting, expect bombshell media reports implicating Trump in wrongdoing, often dropped just before a weekend, to create a 2-4 day media feeding frenzy. As each crisis news cycle peters out, another bombshell is dropped, rinse and repeat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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