I'll have a beer and one potato chip

[Sherlock Holmes]

13 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

That’s gay??

No, but I feel judged ExiledinIllinois probably thinks so anyways...

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

If you touch yourself to McCaffery and Kuechly videos every night before you go to sleep you must be gay...

 

It goes on and on...

Dude.  That  is soo gay! ? 

[apuszczalowski]

10 hours ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

Remember, we're in a pandemic. We are in a situation where restaurants can be open because of how well citizens of the state have come together to social distance and wear masks. unfortunately, people are getting inebriated (that's not the unfortunate part) and failing to social distance (this is the unfortunate part) or wear masks when walking around the bar/restaurant (the other unfortunately part). When people are inebriated, Covid rules are not followed. 

 

I think it's a good rule. Bars and restaurants were not following the previous order. It's better than shutting them down entirely.

 

I also think bar/restaurant owners should be subsidized for the amount of revenue they have lost, but that's for a different thread. 

 

Restaurants can be opened because they refuse to do anything to shut down or slow the economy, there arent many states that should be patting themselves on the back for doing a good job to get to a point where restrictions can be lifted.

 

Alot of places have either started to, or may end up charging their own surcharges/taxes to try and recover lost income from being shut down.

 

The problem with bars is that it really only takes that one guy in the bar who get overly social that can cause the problem. And usually, most people get more social the more they drink. So it's either force people to eat too and stay in seats or further restrict how much can be served

[Hapless Bills Fan]

11 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

Hoping Comrade Cuomo makes this same order applicable to Starbucks and other smoothie bars. You can’t just order an “organic green tea latte mochachino goat milk frappe”...you have to order a 3000 calorie carrot cake muffin as well. 

 

People don’t linger for hours drinking and chatting shoulder to shoulder at smoothie bars.  They order their organic green tea kombucha smoothie and GTFO down the road to the Bikram Yoga class

 

I would like to welcome you to beautiful Missouri where the bars are open, no requirement to buy chips.  Of course, officially the Covid-19 + rate just climbed to 8% locally here.

Unofficially, DHSS is backlogged in documenting about 10,000 cases and test results are taking 7-10 days unless you’re a Priority 1 patient, and an amateur who collates cases from individual counties and laboratories indicated we topped 1,000 cases per day on Weds - RECORD!  For a state with 6M population.

 

This ain’t no *****in’ fake news on the tests, I was busting my hump yesterday and this am trying to find an open testing spot for friend in late 50s with preexisting conditions.  Been running 103 fever, extreme fatigue, body aches, chills since Weds.  Best I could do was tomorrow am, expect results in 6-10 days.  Let’s get this straight: in a city with 2 major medical schools 4.5 months into an epidemic, 9-13 days to get a test and results.   Contact tracing and “box in” strategies are impossible with that turn around.  Meanwhile our governor says masks are a “personal choice” and no one should be ordered to wear a “dang mask”.

 

Welcome to Missouri, Have Fun, Don’t Get Hurt.  So maybe, just maybe, you should Check your Snark about Cuomo a bit.  You got it damn good in NYS Covid-19 wise.

 

Personally I think Cuomo should close the bars and open the primary schools, but that’s just me.

[BringBackFergy]

4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

People don’t linger for hours drinking and chatting shoulder to shoulder at smoothie bars.  They order their organic green tea kombucha smoothie and GTFO down the road to the Bikram Yoga class

 

I would like to welcome you to beautiful Missouri where the bars are open, no requirement to buy chips.  Of course, officially the Covid-19 + rate just climbed to 8% locally here.

Unofficially, DHSS is backlogged in documenting about 10,000 cases and test results are taking 7-10 days unless you’re a Priority 1 patient, and an amateur who collates cases from individual counties and laboratories indicated we topped 1,000 cases per day on Weds - RECORD!  For a state with 6M population.

 

This ain’t no *****in’ fake news on the tests, I was busting my hump yesterday and this am trying to find an open testing spot for friend in late 50s with preexisting conditions.  Been running 103 fever, extreme fatigue, body aches, chills since Weds.  Best I could do was tomorrow am, expect results in 6-10 days.  Let’s get this straight: in a city with 2 major medical schools 4.5 months into an epidemic, 9-13 days to get a test and results.   Contact tracing and “box in” strategies are impossible with that turn around.  Meanwhile our governor says masks are a “personal choice” and no one should be ordered to wear a “dang mask”.

 

Welcome to Missouri, Have Fun, Don’t Get Hurt.  So maybe, just maybe, you should Check your Snark about Cuomo a bit.  You got it damn good in NYS Covid-19 wise.

 

Personally I think Cuomo should close the bars and open the primary schools, but that’s just me.

You clearly see things differently than me. That’s your choice. I wish you well. 

[Gugny]

12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Personally I think Cuomo should close the bars and open the primary schools, but that’s just me.

 

If bars are the problem, I agree.  I feel for the bar owners and their staffs, but as the parent of a high school student, I know what my priority is.

 

That said ... I think bars CAN enforce social distance and stay open.  Generally speaking, they haven't shown that they want to.

 

 

Edited July 18, 2020 by Gugny

[Hapless Bills Fan]

12 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

You clearly see things differently than me. That’s your choice. I wish you well. 

 

Gee, what part do I see differently?  The climbing case rate?  The climbing hospitalization rate?  The soon-to-follow climbing death rate around here?

Action on the part of the government -> reaction on the part of the virus.

 

It’s not my choice, I got no say in this.

[Augie]

33 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

If bars are the problem, I agree.  I feel for the bar owners and their staffs, but as the parent of a high school student, I know what my priority is.

 

That said ... I think bars CAN enforce social distance and stay open.  Generally speaking, they haven't shown that they want to.

 

 

 

One of the places on my regular lunch parade has a nice covered but open patio. They have good tuna tacos and I was a regular. For some crazy reason they decided now would be a good time for you to be forced to order at the bar. I had to go inside and hang out for 10-15 minutes to get my order in and get my Arnold Palmer.....while surrounded by a couple dozen guys pounding Guinness. 

 

I have no problems with guys having their beers (though wishing there was more space and ventilation), I have a SERIOUS problem with ME being forced to hang with them for so long. A runner brought me my food, why couldn’t he take my order? 

 

I have not been back since, and maybe tomorrow I’ll actually get around to emailing them about their stupidity. 

[BringBackFergy]

34 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Gee, what part do I see differently?  The climbing case rate?  The climbing hospitalization rate?  The soon-to-follow climbing death rate around here?

Action on the part of the government -> reaction on the part of the virus.

 

It’s not my choice, I got no say in this.

I’ll say it again. You interpret (see things) differently than me. And how is my “snark” any different from your own thread which is labeled “COVID Humor” (with a cone of shame...”Vets to the Rescue”)? Cuomo isn’t “all that” (although I’m glad he finally started to wear a mask at times). 

[Sherlock Holmes]

11 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

Are you a lockboy or an alcohol counselor?

 

11 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Both.  LoL... Are you an alcoholic?

 

7 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

That’s gay??

I'm about to turn @ExiledInIllinois into a ****boy, get back into the plumbing thread!

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 minute ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

 

 

I'm about to turn @ExiledInIllinois into a ****boy, get back into the plumbing thread!

Dude... What happens  in the ShitDitch stays in the ShitDitch! 

[RaoulDuke79]

I stopped in  for happy hour tonight at one of my go to establishments.  Back to 25% capacity.....normally it would be hard to find a seat or a table at 6pm. i asked if I could buy a bag a chips,  but that didn't qualify so I got a plate of nachos to split with the group (very good by the way) Bar was empty,  because its off limits and there were maybe 5 tables of patrons. Its a one off local family. Not a chain restaurant. Its a sad state of affairs. A lot of small businesses will cease to exist after this. If you are compromised or don't feel safe going out then by all means stay home, but life comes with risks. Be safe and take precautions,  but we're not all going to die.

Edited July 18, 2020 by RaoulDuke79

[Sherlock Holmes]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

People don’t linger for hours drinking and chatting shoulder to shoulder at smoothie bars.  They order their organic green tea kombucha smoothie and GTFO down the road to the Bikram Yoga class

 

I would like to welcome you to beautiful Missouri where the bars are open, no requirement to buy chips.  Of course, officially the Covid-19 + rate just climbed to 8% locally here.

Unofficially, DHSS is backlogged in documenting about 10,000 cases and test results are taking 7-10 days unless you’re a Priority 1 patient, and an amateur who collates cases from individual counties and laboratories indicated we topped 1,000 cases per day on Weds - RECORD!  For a state with 6M population.

 

This ain’t no *****in’ fake news on the tests, I was busting my hump yesterday and this am trying to find an open testing spot for friend in late 50s with preexisting conditions.  Been running 103 fever, extreme fatigue, body aches, chills since Weds.  Best I could do was tomorrow am, expect results in 6-10 days.  Let’s get this straight: in a city with 2 major medical schools 4.5 months into an epidemic, 9-13 days to get a test and results.   Contact tracing and “box in” strategies are impossible with that turn around.  Meanwhile our governor says masks are a “personal choice” and no one should be ordered to wear a “dang mask”.

 

Welcome to Missouri, Have Fun, Don’t Get Hurt.  So maybe, just maybe, you should Check your Snark about Cuomo a bit.  You got it damn good in NYS Covid-19 wise.

 

Personally I think Cuomo should close the bars and open the primary schools, but that’s just me.

Well in our days kids are fingerbanging behind staircases on the reg in school... less chance of infection having a dinner you have with family normally anyways than that classroom skank passing off who knows what.

 

Oh, no fever! and Flu like symptoms... did the Flu go extinct all of a sudden and every flu-like case is now Covid-19? Just asking for a friend!

4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Dude... What happens  in the ShitDitch stays in the ShitDitch! 

I guess I won't post the selfies

[Sherlock Holmes]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Gee, what part do I see differently?  The climbing case rate?  The climbing hospitalization rate?  The soon-to-follow climbing death rate around here?

Action on the part of the government -> reaction on the part of the virus.

 

It’s not my choice, I got no say in this.

You have a say in that desecration of the flag raising on Iwo Jima in your avatar... might as well change the American flag to a Biden 2020 flag

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

One of the places on my regular lunch parade has a nice covered but open patio. They have good tuna tacos and I was a regular. For some crazy reason they decided now would be a good time for you to be forced to order at the bar. I had to go inside and hang out for 10-15 minutes to get my order in and get my Arnold Palmer.....while surrounded by a couple dozen guys pounding Guinness. 

 

I have no problems with guys having their beers (though wishing there was more space and ventilation), I have a SERIOUS problem with ME being forced to hang with them for so long. A runner brought me my food, why couldn’t he take my order? 

 

I have not been back since, and maybe tomorrow I’ll actually get around to emailing them about their stupidity. 

Ew, even with no Covid nobody wants to see a sausage fest of bros guzzling girly beers while rubbing on each other... unless it was the 2019 Carolina Panther locker room and it involved oilings of Kuechly and McCaffreys sore muscles...

[Sherlock Holmes]

14 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

I stopped in  for happy hour tonight at one of my go to establishments.  Back to 25% capacity.....normally it would be hard to find a seat or a table at 6pm. i asked if I could buy a bag a chips,  but that didn't quality, so I got a plate of nachos to split with the group (very good by the way) Bar was empty,  because its off limits and there were maybe 5 tables of patrons. Its a one off local family. Not a chain restaurant. Its a sad state of affairs. A lot of small businesses will cease to exist after this. If you are comprised or don't feel safe going out then by all means stay home, but life comes with risks. Be safe and take precautions,  but we're not all going to die.

You are killing us Smalls!!!!

[LB3]

Everyone was buying chips at my local  establishment yesterday afternoon. I got a buffalo shrimp wrap (delicious). Next week, we'll be hanging a framed photo on the wall of my friend that Emperor Cuomo killed with his extended lockdown.

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, LB3 said:

Everyone was buying chips at my local  establishment yesterday afternoon. I got a buffalo shrimp wrap (delicious). Next week, we'll be hanging a framed photo on the wall of my friend that Emperor Cuomo killed with his extended lockdown.

 

Sorry for your loss.  How did the lockdown kill your friend?

[ExiledInIllinois]

3 hours ago, LB3 said:

Everyone was buying chips at my local  establishment yesterday afternoon. I got a buffalo shrimp wrap (delicious). Next week, we'll be hanging a framed photo on the wall of my friend that Emperor Cuomo killed with his extended lockdown.

Boo hoo.  Take  one for  the  team Comrade.  You're friend  is a true  hero.

 

I mentioned here that  in the 1930s my grandfather  had a good paying  job on the railroad.   FDR cut his pay from $36 a week  in GOLD to $18 in paper and  eliminated  the ability to strike.  My grandfather  hated "that  crippled basstard" till the day he died...BUT my grandfather  voted for  him 4 times.  My grandfather  still had a job and knew it was best for  the  country.  ...Even after  the Federal  Government scared people to trade  in their gold  for  paper.  My Grandfather  died penniless.

 

Unless... Your  friend  was physically killed by Prince Andy, he'll get over it (no matter  where he is) knowing  he helped  others, just like my grandfather. 

Edited July 18, 2020 by ExiledInIllinois

[LB3]

3 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

Sorry for your loss.  How did the lockdown kill your friend?

Thank you. He wasn't allowed to see anyone. It was the 10 year anniversary of his wife's death. He couldn't take it anymore. He's with his wife now which is the only comfort from it.

3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Boo hoo.  Take  one for  the  team Comrade.  You're friend  is a true  hero.

 

I mentioned here that  in the 1930s my grandfather  had a good paying  job on the railroad.   FDR cut his pay from $36 a week  in GOLD to $18 in paper and  eliminated  the ability to strike.  My grandfather  hated "that  crippled basstard" till the day he died...BUT my grandfather  voted for  him 4 times.  My grandfather  still had a job and knew it was best for  the  country.  ...Even after  the Federal  Government scared people to trade  in their gold  for  paper.  My Grandfather  died penniless.

 

Unless... Your  friend  was physically killed by Prince Andy, he'll get over it (no matter  where he is) knowing  he helped  others, just like my grandfather. 

GFY dbag. I hope you're at the opener in the next few years.

Edited July 18, 2020 by LB3

[Gugny]

Just now, LB3 said:

Thank you. He wasn't seeing anyone. It was the 10 year anniversary of his wife's death. He couldn't take it anymore. He's with his wife now which is the only comfort from it.

GFY dbag.

 

You're blaming Governor Cuomo for your friend's suicide?  I don't think that's how that works.  Frankly, I find it ridiculous.

[LB3]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

You're blaming Governor Cuomo for your friend's suicide?  I don't think that's how that works.  Frankly, I find it ridiculous.

GFY too. For a bs lockdown that culls the herd.

 

Only a moron didn't know lockdown would drastically raise death by despair. To save the sick and dying a few more months. 

Edited July 18, 2020 by LB3

[Gugny]

Just now, LB3 said:

GFY too. For a bs lockdown that culls the herd.

 

Listen, if @ExiledInIllinois and I both GFO at the same time, people are gonna talk.  I don't need that kind of drama in my life.

[LB3]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

Listen, if @ExiledInIllinois and I both GFO at the same time, people are gonna talk.  I don't need that kind of drama in my life.

Thanks for that.

[LeviF]

14 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

I stopped in  for happy hour tonight at one of my go to establishments.  Back to 25% capacity.....normally it would be hard to find a seat or a table at 6pm. i asked if I could buy a bag a chips,  but that didn't qualify so I got a plate of nachos to split with the group (very good by the way) Bar was empty,  because its off limits and there were maybe 5 tables of patrons. Its a one off local family. Not a chain restaurant. Its a sad state of affairs. A lot of small businesses will cease to exist after this. If you are compromised or don't feel safe going out then by all means stay home, but life comes with risks. Be safe and take precautions,  but we're not all going to die.

 

Yep, we just experienced one of the largest wealth transfers in history and nobody even blinked.  We can wait in line at walmart but g-d forbid the local sporting goods store be able to stay open for their five patrons an hour.  A street in my city that was all small businesses is now plastered with "for lease" signs.

 

And for those upthread: yes, social isolation can absolutely amplify the feelings of hopelessness that cause suicide.  Not to mention financial ruin, loss of employment, etc.  Whether driving people closer to suicide was worth it or not I suppose is up to our friends in the actuarial sciences.

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

 

Yep, we just experienced one of the largest wealth transfers in history and nobody even blinked. 

Eh, some of us have been banging this drum for a while. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

16 minutes ago, LB3 said:

Thank you. He wasn't allowed to see anyone. It was the 10 year anniversary of his wife's death. He couldn't take it anymore. He's with his wife now which is the only comfort from it.

GFY dbag. I hope you're at the opener in the next few years.

It's  like Gug said. It's  not the governor's fault.  I get it, every life is a tragedy.  Yet, he's  thinking of many  more.  Pretty shameless finding  blame  on others, then finding  honor in  it. It is quite ridiculous. 

 

 

20 minutes ago, LB3 said:

Thanks for that.

Sorry.

 

I normally  don't  put caveats on my apologies.  Doesn't  mean I agree with you  OR what  your friend did. Just sorry for  your  loss.

[Gugny]

5 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

 

Yep, we just experienced one of the largest wealth transfers in history and nobody even blinked.  We can wait in line at walmart but g-d forbid the local sporting goods store be able to stay open for their five patrons an hour.  A street in my city that was all small businesses is now plastered with "for lease" signs.

 

And for those upthread: yes, social isolation can absolutely amplify the feelings of hopelessness that cause suicide.  Not to mention financial ruin, loss of employment, etc.  Whether driving people closer to suicide was worth it or not I suppose is up to our friends in the actuarial sciences.

 

Unfortunately, I have had WAY too many friends, co-workers and/or loved ones take their own lives.  It's not a subject I take lightly, so please don't think that I am.

 

But I find it odd that someone would opine that the lockdown caused their friend to commit suicide - and then follow it with the opinion that those who've died from Covid-19 were gonna die "in a few months," anyway.

 

[LeviF]

29 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Unfortunately, I have had WAY too many friends, co-workers and/or loved ones take their own lives.  It's not a subject I take lightly, so please don't think that I am.

 

But I find it odd that someone would opine that the lockdown caused their friend to commit suicide - and then follow it with the opinion that those who've died from Covid-19 were gonna die "in a few months," anyway.

 

 

Emotional takes are typically not rational takes.  Doesn't mean emotional takes are always wrong - but hyperbole is an acceptable rhetorical device when one is grieving. 

 

But it may be a reference to deaths by age splits.  Both number of COVID deaths and COVID deaths as a percentage of all deaths dramatically increase when you hit 55, then dramatically increase again at 65.  Percentage then holds steady up to the top of the graph while raw number of deaths climbs.

 

But this isn't a "fACts aNd iNFo" thread - this is a thread about a silly law.  

[LabattBlue]

17 hours ago, Gugny said:

I think bars CAN enforce social distance and stay open.  Generally speaking, they haven't shown that they want to.

^^^ This!

[Punching Bag]

On 7/17/2020 at 1:10 PM, LabattBlue said:

If Cuomo wants to crackdown on this because of problems in the NYC area, why not just issue the edict for the counties that make up the NYC boroughs?  Why penalize some random establishments in the middle of WNY and other places upstate who never have more than 10-15 people at any given time.

 

Some big apple residents are not only ruining it for the rest of the state, but they are also going to once again be the cause of a rise in cases.

 

So what is new about big apple residents ruining for rest of state? It should be called the Big Apple Worm.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Cull the herd?  Usually the weak  and sick are culled.   Committing  suicide is just that, part of the herd's infirm.  A lot more older  and stronger  died from the disease that  shouldn't  have. 

[LB3]

29 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Cull the herd?  Usually the weak  and sick are culled.   Committing  suicide is just that, part of the herd's infirm.  A lot more older  and stronger  died from the disease that  shouldn't  have. 

Committing suicide is always cowardly. Part of me still resents my friend. Covid, by the data, is taking a certain select population. I can't wait till a home opener though. Gonna be great to see you.

Edited July 18, 2020 by LB3

[ExiledInIllinois]

4 minutes ago, LB3 said:

Committing suicide is always cowardly. Part of me still resents my friend. Covid, by the data, is taking a certain select population. I can't wait till a home opener though. Gonna be great to see you.

And that  friend  is part of the equation because of the disease, not the governor.

 

Yes... Same here.  If it goes  off.

[Teddy KGB]

7 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Boo hoo.  Take  one for  the  team Comrade.  You're friend  is a true  hero.

 

I mentioned here that  in the 1930s my grandfather  had a good paying  job on the railroad.   FDR cut his pay from $36 a week  in GOLD to $18 in paper and  eliminated  the ability to strike.  My grandfather  hated "that  crippled basstard" till the day he died...BUT my grandfather  voted for  him 4 times.  My grandfather  still had a job and knew it was best for  the  country.  ...Even after  the Federal  Government scared people to trade  in their gold  for  paper.  My Grandfather  died penniless.

 

Unless... Your  friend  was physically killed by Prince Andy, he'll get over it (no matter  where he is) knowing  he helped  others, just like my grandfather. 

How did your great grandfather fare in 1910 ? 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

8 hours ago, LeviF91 said:

 

Yep, we just experienced one of the largest wealth transfers in history and nobody even blinked.  We can wait in line at walmart but g-d forbid the local sporting goods store be able to stay open for their five patrons an hour.  A street in my city that was all small businesses is now plastered with "for lease" signs.

 

And for those upthread: yes, social isolation can absolutely amplify the feelings of hopelessness that cause suicide.  Not to mention financial ruin, loss of employment, etc.  Whether driving people closer to suicide was worth it or not I suppose is up to our friends in the actuarial sciences.

 

The hypocrisy is stunning, easily identifiable and for reasons that escape me, many people are perfectly comfortable with it.  Between locked down churches, winners and losers in retail, and the freedom to risk every person’s life in the world with mass gatherings in protest, I can understand bar and restaurant owners moving in this direction.  

 

By nature, these are tough, aggressive and business-minded people.  They shut down and shut up early, but understandably might well be thinking wtf by now. 

[RiotAct]

21 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

The hypocrisy is stunning, easily identifiable and for reasons that escape me, many people are perfectly comfortable with it.  Between locked down churches, winners and losers in retail, and the freedom to risk every person’s life in the world with mass gatherings in protest, I can understand bar and restaurant owners moving in this direction.  

 

But, but, but... 80% of them were wearing face coverings, half of them correctly (if that)... so it’s all good.

[B-Man]

 

 

[BarleyNY]

On 7/17/2020 at 1:56 PM, Gugny said:

 

I live 3 hours north of NYC and many bars have been reported for violating social distancing rules.  I know it's mostly a NYC problem, but I think it's safe to say that the non-compliance is widespread.

A friend of mine’s daughter and friend went to a brewery in Lockport last weekend.  It was just to eat dinner as they are underage.  They said that there were people at the bar shoulder to shoulder.  Almost no patrons wearing masks.  That’s the reason stuff like the food rule gets enacted.  I just hope the rules get enforced.  I don’t want WNY to be Florida in a month. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 7/18/2020 at 1:14 PM, LeviF91 said:

But it may be a reference to deaths by age splits.  Both number of COVID deaths and COVID deaths as a percentage of all deaths dramatically increase when you hit 55, then dramatically increase again at 65.  Percentage then holds steady up to the top of the graph while raw number of deaths climbs.

 

I hope you are not intending to imply that people over age 65, or people over age 85 for that matter, are "going to die anyway in a matter of months" or  if they die something something "culling the herd"

 

You weren't intending to imply that, were you?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 7/17/2020 at 9:11 AM, BringBackFergy said:

I have seen just as many young, uber-intelligent, metro-sexuals nursing a "spiced green spinach smoothie with a shot of quinoa oil and a sprinkle of llama milk" over the course of two hours while browsing the latest issue of Art Voice or The Atlantic.  They will sit there for hours and chat, solve world problems and shame me as I walk past their front window seats covered in faux leather cushions. Alcohol isn't the issue...people being close to each other indoors is the real problem. Why target bars and taverns without requiring food purchases at other businesses that condone the very same conduct (gathering of people indoors that aren't eating)? 

 

I love this writing.  You do have a way with words. 

 

One does kind of wonder where you were standing when you observed them for hours, (and it does lead me to wonder why you are covered in faux leather cushions, but that's a nit). 

I have actually never seen people packed in shoulder to shoulder to drink their soy matcha latte frappaccinos in a coffee house the way I see people packed in to drink their longnecks and draft specials around here.

 

But, I must defer to your superior knowledge of the spiced green spinach llama milk smoothie crowd.

 

You're absolutely right that If the smoothie bars are packed shoulder to shoulder with people drinking spiced green spinach smoothie llama milk like the alcoholic bars I've seen,  they should close too... and of course requiring you to buy a potato chip doesn't help the shoulder-to-shoulder thing.