Gugny Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Wacka said: LAMP? Look At Me Parade? Pretty sure this wasn't his idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On a side note, that race yesterday was so exciting, the ending especially, to have the #3 finisher spinning across the line. Damn was that fun to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I return to offer my Mea Culpa for my earlier post in this thread. As multiple posters pointed out it was pretty damn hypocritical of me to call for a waiting for judgement, when I had posted a skeptical reply right at the beginning of the thread. I have no good excuse. I reacted to the post from the Dean, that made assumptions about me that weren't remotely true and I replied too quickly with an ill-thought out mess. Racial hoaxes have been all too frequent in the news lately and I would still like to see the investigation go forward before innocent people, on any side, are declared guilty. Thank you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 21 hours ago, Alaska Darin said: Duke lacrosse anyone? No one has been accused of anything. Just now, B-Man said: I return to offer my Mea Culpa for my earlier post in this thread. As multiple posters pointed out it was pretty damn hypocritical of me to call for a waiting for judgement, when I had posted a skeptical reply right at the beginning of the thread. I have no good excuse. I reacted to the post from the Dean, that made assumptions about me that weren't remotely true and I replied too quickly with an ill-thought out mess. Racial hoaxes have been all too frequent in the news lately and I would still like to see the investigation go forward before innocent people, on any side, are declared guilty. Thank you No one has even been accused. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 43 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: No one has been accused of anything. No one has even been accused. Well.............without trying to draw myself back in, There are three posts on the first page that accuse white southerners of being "responsible" Which is fine, this IS a message board, but I don't believe that your reply holds true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Gugny said: Pretty sure this wasn't his idea. Never said it was. They should do that For drivers who come back after horrific crashes. Let the investigation proceed. About 90 percent If these are people drawing attention to them selves or their cause. Edited June 23, 2020 by Wacka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Well.............without trying to draw myself back in, There are three posts on the first page that accuse white southerners of being "responsible" Which is fine, this IS a message board, but I don't believe that your reply holds true. Nonsense. Yours was the FIRST response in the thread. No accusation against Southerners was made by the OP or ANY other poster in the first page. One poster suggested Confederate Flag waving Nascar fans, and another the historic white culture of the sport, make this less than surprising. (My mishmash translation. I'm in a hurry) 1 hour ago, Wacka said: Never repaid it was. They should do that For drivers who come back after horrific crashes. Let the investigation proceed.E e About 90 percent If these arePeople drawing attention to them selves or their cause. 90%? Really? Where the hell does that come from? Let's assume some are doing it for real support. Some due to peer pressure. Some for "attention" (though I'm not sure what kind of attention one of the many participants is going to get). But how do you decide who is who, and then calculate the percentages? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, B-Man said: I return to offer my Mea Culpa for my earlier post in this thread. As multiple posters pointed out it was pretty damn hypocritical of me to call for a waiting for judgement, when I had posted a skeptical reply right at the beginning of the thread. I have no good excuse. I reacted to the post from the Dean, that made assumptions about me that weren't remotely true and I replied too quickly with an ill-thought out mess. Racial hoaxes have been all too frequent in the news lately and I would still like to see the investigation go forward before innocent people, on any side, are declared guilty. Thank you We all have posts we regret. Mine was saying we picked the wrong Josh. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: We all have posts we regret. Mine was saying we picked the wrong Josh. McCown to Brown! TOUCHDOWN! Weren't the Bills "seriously interested" in that Josh, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, B-Man said: Racial hoaxes have been all too frequent in the news lately and I would still like to see the investigation go forward before innocent people, on any side, are declared guilty. Maybe I'm just reading the wrong news. Do you have any examples of recent racial hoaxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: Maybe I'm just reading the wrong news. Do you have any examples of recent racial hoaxes? He did say he has no good excuses. He's just using a bad excuse? Edited June 23, 2020 by Warren Zevon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 6 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: back to the dungeon with you 2 hours ago, B-Man said: I return to offer my Mea Culpa for my earlier post in this thread. As multiple posters pointed out it was pretty damn hypocritical of me to call for a waiting for judgement, when I had posted a skeptical reply right at the beginning of the thread. I have no good excuse. I reacted to the post from the Dean, that made assumptions about me that weren't remotely true and I replied too quickly with an ill-thought out mess. Racial hoaxes have been all too frequent in the news lately and I would still like to see the investigation go forward before innocent people, on any side, are declared guilty. Thank you So wait the post you regret isn't the one immediately crying hoax, it's the one calling for patience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Gugny said: Maybe I'm just reading the wrong news. Do you have any examples of recent racial hoaxes? Well, obviously besides Smollet and Covington High. https://www.creators.com/read/walter-williams/04/20/manipulation-through-racial-hoaxes https://nypost.com/2019/02/21/the-list-of-bogus-hate-crimes-in-trump-era-is-long/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/jussie-smollett-and-long-history-racial-hoaxes/583498/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Well, obviously besides Smollet and Covington High. https://www.creators.com/read/walter-williams/04/20/manipulation-through-racial-hoaxes https://nypost.com/2019/02/21/the-list-of-bogus-hate-crimes-in-trump-era-is-long/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/jussie-smollett-and-long-history-racial-hoaxes/583498/ Safe to say that MAYBE 2% of these are fake? It’s odd to chime in immediately after the initial post believing that it is the 1 out of 50. That’s just a bad look. Don’t be a victim shamer. Spend a few minutes in the mirror asking if that’s the guy you want to be? Edited June 23, 2020 by Kirby Jackson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Safe to say that MAYBE 2% of these are fake? It’s odd to chime in immediately after the initial post believing that it is the 1 out of 50. That’s just a bad look. Don’t be a victim shamer. Spend a few minutes in the mirror asking if that’s the guy you want to be? What always gets me shaking my head is when people who I've never heard complain about discrimination against African Americans, Women, LGBT. etc get ALL worked up about some event of "reverse discrimination". I say (or think), "Seriously, you're worried because this ONE white person didn't get into a school, while a person from one of these historically under-represented groups with a slightly lower SAT score got in? Where you complaining about the bigger, more ubiquitous discrimination before this?" They ignore the BIG issue and most of the cases, and focusing on the oddball minutiae instead. The outliers. The same way a few here approach the science and medicine surrounding Covid 19. And for the record, I'm not referring to B-Man specifically as I don't even know the person and I won't use a couple sloppy remarks to label someone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 12:17 AM, B-Man said: On 6/22/2020 at 12:20 AM, Gugny said: So I guess this is fake news, huh? dunno what happened but not long ago there was this guy named Juicy Smollette... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 We have any pics of said noose yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Foxx said: dunno what happened but not long ago there was this guy named Juicy Smollette... Is that a pet name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Is that a pet name? you apparently missed the Dave Chappelle act. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZXoErL2124 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Foxx said: you apparently missed the Dave Chappelle act. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZXoErL2124 No, I saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Jauronimo said: No, I saw it. so... your being disingenuous then. gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Foxx said: so... your being disingenuous then. gotcha. Or you were going for Juicey Smoullier but fugged it all up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, The Poojer said: It’s on ESPN now. So it’s somewhere in between “never happened” and “racism!” @Teddy KGB wins the pool 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 So I guess they can have the Confederate Flag back, now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 To be clear, Bubba Watson wasn't the one to bring this event to light. It was someone in the garage. He's no where close to Smolette in this case. At least that is my understanding 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) I certainly hope the garage pull story is correct, and the end of this. However don't for a minute there isn't racism at play in the NASCAR culture: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nascar/news/bubba-wallace-noose-mike-skinner/tl4wwe3qo3ih1k3jmrf64w62w Quote "Frankly I wish they would've tied [the noose] to [Wallace] and drug him around the pits because he has single handedly destroyed what I grew up watching and cared about for 30 years now." But nothing to see here. I must admit I'm a bit curious what Wallace did to destroy the sport? Just being Black? By getting the Confederate Flag banned? What does that have to do with racing? Edited June 23, 2020 by The Dean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 ...the lethal and unsubstantiated accusations in the "comments" section of various news sites are mad scary.....one I saw that was mind boggling..." a has been driver wanting the spotlight, so he pulls a Smollet II".....WOW......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Dean said: I certainly hope the garage pull story is correct, and the end of this. However don't for a minute there isn't racism at play in the NASCAR culture: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nascar/news/bubba-wallace-noose-mike-skinner/tl4wwe3qo3ih1k3jmrf64w62w But nothing to see here. I must admit I'm a bit curious what Wallace did to destroy the sport? Just being Black? By getting the Confederate Flag banned? What does that have to do with racing? He's been an outspoken advocate and activist for right turns in NASCAR. Its controversial to say the least. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 The racists are going to go full throttle at Bubba and his mother now. I hope NASCAR and the drivers stick with Bubba 100%. It's going to get nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, The Poojer said: Bingo! Look at me parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Wacka said: Bingo! Look at me parade. Again ... Bubba Wallace had exactly 0% to do with the discovery, or the report, of the noose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Jaraxxus said: So many disappointed faces in this thread, I see. Why would anybody be disappointed that a hate crime actually hadn't been committed? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wacka said: Bingo! Look at me parade. Look at WHO? For a look at me parade, you must think there is someone, or multiple someones, who purposefully organized this for publicity. Got any names or evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, GoBills808 said: Why would anybody be disappointed that a hate crime actually hadn't been committed? Agreed. What an idiotic statement. The entire thing was, in the end, a good thing. The reported threat (I guess) was found to be an innocent mistake. Nevertheless, NASCAR banded together to backup the only African American currently driving. What reason is there to be disappointed ? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: No blood to satisfy the list, of course. I have no idea what this means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) Adam Carolla has made a bunch of documentaries about racing, His subjects included Paul Newman, Shelby and Ford vs Lemans (finished his before the recent movie was made). His most recent one is about Willie T Ribbs, the black NASCAR driver. Was done with the full cooperation of Ribbs and Ribbs has also appeared to promote it. It's called Uppity. Ribbs wanted to call it Uppity N*****, what they sometimes called him, but Carolla talked him out of it. Waiting for some stupid woke SJWs to sratart going after Carolla. Edited June 23, 2020 by Wacka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Wacka said: Bingo! Look at me parade. Whats wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: No blood to satisfy the lust, of course. If its lust you're looking for, check out #BubbaSmollett which is trending on twitter right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 12:17 AM, B-Man said: 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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