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3 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


That is an incomplete answer. I’m a big why person. See my post above. 

 

For the same reason we argue in favor of free speech. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Open discourse allows good ideas to push the bad ideas out.

 

If your goal is totalitarianism the greatest threat to your mission is a well informed populace.

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5 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


That is an incomplete answer. I’m a big why person. See my post above. 

It's all based on post-modern theory, intersectional theory, and critical race theory (born out of these former two).  Critical race theory is in a battle with "whiteness" which includes characteristics such as liking individualism, free society, personal responsibility, nuclear family, etc.  They rail against freedom as "whiteness" and if you assert your love for these qualities, you are a white supremacist.  The ideology does not allow for any room for discussion otherwise.  

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2 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

It's all based on post-modern theory, intersectional theory, and critical race theory (born out of these former two).  Critical race theory is in a battle with "whiteness" which includes characteristics such as liking individualism, free society, personal responsibility, nuclear family, etc.  They rail against freedom as "whiteness" and if you assert your love for these qualities, you are a white supremacist.  The ideology does not allow for any room for discussion otherwise.  


Well then based on their stupid premises and there is no room for discussion they must die. ?

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2 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

It's all based on post-modern theory, intersectional theory, and critical race theory (born out of these former two).  Critical race theory is in a battle with "whiteness" which includes characteristics such as liking individualism, free society, personal responsibility, nuclear family, etc.  They rail against freedom as "whiteness" and if you assert your love for these qualities, you are a white supremacist.  The ideology does not allow for any room for discussion otherwise.  

 

...DEAD ON.....so what do we tell the MILLIONS of African-Americans or other ethnic Americans that have embraced those same alleged "white supremacist (COUGH) ideals" and have basked in the SAME level of successes?.....what derogatory adjectives should we apply to them for "chasing AND realizing their dreams"?......I missed the memo....

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52 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Well then based on their stupid premises and there is no room for discussion they must die. ?

Of course not, no one needs to die and I hope it never comes to that. Just free flow of ideas rather than cancel culture. 

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23 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Sure man, sure. I know you’re being facetious.

 

Of course I am but if, according to you, they have no room for discussion then we just ignore them and hope they go away?  How do we cancel them to prevent their ideals from spreading to the majority.  They have the greatest marketing engines on their side.  Hollywood and the main stream media.  

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45 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Of course I am but if, according to you, they have no room for discussion then we just ignore them and hope they go away?  How do we cancel them to prevent their ideals from spreading to the majority.  They have the greatest marketing engines on their side.  Hollywood and the main stream media.  

I wouldn't cancel anyone's ideas (unless it was an imminent threat).  It's hard because everyone seems to have been indoctrinated into this viewpoint from the 90s forward and they are reaping the fruit of the culture it has wrought.  I tend to think they will eat their own and their nonsensical and disjointed message will be seen for what it is compared to cooler and rational heads over time.  It's a long game, and we may see some short term pain (hopefully not to the point of the Gulags) for long term gain in the end.  It seems like a difficult time, but I'm also hopeful that there is a majority that is silent.  A majority that has to work and be responsible to themselves and their families.  They can't be out in the streets but can vote for those who are more rational.  We will see, otherwise we are doomed to repeat socialist/communist ideals until it unravels again.  Interesting and dangerous times for sure.  

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Following Goya CEO Robert Unanue’s praise for President Trump at a White House event, social media was alight with calls to boycott the food maker. Leading the fight was Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Proving that Twitter isn’t real life, the boycott has already proven to be a failure and it took yet another hit today. The United Bodegas of America (UBA) said it will keep stocking Goya products.

 

 

 

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43 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Emperor Don re renaming military bases

 

We won world wars out of these military bases. No, I’m not going to go changing them, I’m not going to go changing them.”

YET  Don wants to close these bases   Trump approves plan to withdraw 9,500 U.S. forces from Germany

 

 

 

 

Let's play......................"Two separate things thrown together"

 

 

 

 

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Red Bull does not plan on #getwokegotbroke. We shall see:
 

Red Bull Replaces Top U.S. Executives Amid Internal Tensions

Ousted executives had pushed energy-drink giant to improve diversity and speak out on racial injustice


The maker of Red Bull energy drinks has replaced its top U.S. executives amid internal tensions over the closely held company’s response to the Black Lives Matter movement.
 

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Ms. Taylor had been working on diversity and inclusion efforts within the company with Mr. Kozak’s support for several years but was met with opposition when she began advocating for Red Bull to be more overt in its support of racial justice in the last month, according to people familiar with the matter.
 

Some U.S. employees had recently raised concerns about what they considered the company’s inaction on the Black Lives Matter movement and about a racist slide that was in a presentation given at a company event in February. An image of the slide was obtained by Business Insider, which earlier reported on the news.
 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Red Bull does not plan on #getwokegotbroke. We shall see:
 

Red Bull Replaces Top U.S. Executives Amid Internal Tensions

Ousted executives had pushed energy-drink giant to improve diversity and speak out on racial injustice


The maker of Red Bull energy drinks has replaced its top U.S. executives amid internal tensions over the closely held company’s response to the Black Lives Matter movement.
 

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Ms. Taylor had been working on diversity and inclusion efforts within the company with Mr. Kozak’s support for several years but was met with opposition when she began advocating for Red Bull to be more overt in its support of racial justice in the last month, according to people familiar with the matter.
 

Some U.S. employees had recently raised concerns about what they considered the company’s inaction on the Black Lives Matter movement and about a racist slide that was in a presentation given at a company event in February. An image of the slide was obtained by Business Insider, which earlier reported on the news.
 

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Took me a few clicks to find the offending presentation...... 

 

Red Bull slide

 

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The image was a variation on a meme called "the world according to Americans" showing a rudimentary world map to make the point that Americans are ignorant and racist when it comes to other cultures.
In the Red Bull version of the slide, India is described as "call centers," the Middle East as "evil-doers" with an arrow indicating "bombs go here," and Africa as "zoo animals come from here." 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


I do not think he can reason. It is all feelz. ?

 

 

I'm actually kind of embarrassed for guys like him. We know they have the ability to wake up, feed themselves food, turn on a computer, and navigate to this website where they can actually log in and post a thought...and yet after all that they're simply too stupid to realize the error of the garbage they're posting. How can any thinking person NOT understand the two points he posted have literally nothing to with each other...and even worse, it's posted as if he's dunking on everyone. 

 

It's either pure stupidity on his part, or catering to the purely stupid for likes and clicks, which isn't any less pathetic.

 

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Defeating Cancel Culture Is Way Easier Than We Think It Is

Cancel culture, the act of destroying someone’s life over the fact that they disagree with popular opinion or have done something that goes against the cause célèbre (even if it was years and years ago) is something that the general public disagrees with as a majority, yet will do nothing about.

 

According to Politico, a new poll shows that the majority of Americans think cancel culture has gone too far and more have a generally negative opinion about it. A much smaller amount believe it’s a positive force in our society:

 

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We believe cancel culture to be bad as a majority and for good reason. We’ve watched people be torn to shreds socially for things that are either silly or happened so long ago that to say they’re the same person who said that today would be ridiculous. What’s more, public apologies do nothing to help. In fact, they only seem to make the situation worse.

 

 

The saying goes that all evil needs to thrive is for good men to do nothing.

 

Taking a step back and looking at cancel culture as a passive observer from a different planet, you’d be hard-pressed to find a spiritual difference between cancel culture and schoolyard bullying. Both seem to be people acting out against innocents with no clear discernable goal except to feel some sort of power or control. Both take an unwillingness to fight as an invitation to continue their behavior, and capitulation only makes the bullying worse.

 

In the schoolyard, the bullying only seems to stop when the bullied make it consequential for the bully to act out on them. A measure of pain inflicted on those who inflict it tends to teach them that attempting to dominate someone results in very real pain. One doesn’t even necessarily have to win the fight. Inflict damage and the bully begins to have second thoughts about making you a victim.

 

So how do we do this to cancel culture?

 

Cancel culture consists of a multitude of bullies and not all of them can be punished nor should they be. Sometimes, it’s just people expressing their disagreement which is perfectly fine. In order to combat cancel culture we first have to understand that our real target isn’t the people doing the canceling, it’s the businesses that are caving.

 

What cancel culture really is, is a boycott war at its heart.

 

Cancel culture wouldn’t have any teeth if businesses and government bodies didn’t capitulate. It would just be a lot of people complaining about something online, and to be honest,  the internet’s default setting is people complaining about something to everyone else. Shrugging off the opinions of others is becoming second nature as we evolve as a culture alongside web access.

 

This means that the moment a business caves to cancel culture, not only must you make them understand that what they did was wrong through social media, but do what Americans have done for ages and begin voting with your wallet.

 

This is, as you may guess, a sort of cancelation of your own, but we live in a capitalist system where money does more talking than most anything else. You don’t need to lead a high-profile protest or take major legal action. All you need to do is distance yourself from the company. If a company knee-jerks into firing someone over something they shouldn’t have been fired over, then use a different company’s products.

 

Furthermore, if a company resists cancel culture, then reward them.

 

MORE at the link: https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2020/07/22/cancel-culture-defeat/

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51 minutes ago, bilzfancy said:

A&E's ratings are so bad they're considering bringing back Live PD

 

I would love to see the producers pass on A&E's attempt and go with another network just to spite them. I doubt they're contractually able to do that, but it sure would be just desserts. 

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