2020 Election is officially Trump vs Biden

[transplantbillsfan]

Despite posters like @Deranged Rhino being so utterly and incredibly wrong in their belief that Biden (with all the nicknames you throw at him) could never win the Democratic nomination, he has.

 

So on Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020, it's Donald Trump vs Joe Biden.

 

Momentum has been on Biden's side. Polls have, too. Trump can't get out of his own way.

Biden's path to win is there and he's pretty much the favorite at this point, but it's officially on!

[Chef Jim]

BEST

PRIMARY 

EVER!!

[outsidethebox]

7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Despite posters like @Deranged Rhino being so utterly and incredibly wrong in their belief that Biden (with all the nicknames you throw at him) could never win the Democratic nomination, he has.

 

So on Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020, it's Donald Trump vs Joe Biden.

 

Momentum has been on Biden's side. Polls have, too. Trump can't get out of his own way.

Biden's path to win is there and he's pretty much the favorite at this point, but it's officially on!

I think I heard this before............Hmmmm.............Something about Trump losing in a landslide.........it slips my mind at the moment

[transplantbillsfan]

Just now, westside said:

I think I heard this before............Hmmmm.............Something about Trump losing in a landslide.........it slips my mind at the moment

 

I'm surprised this wasn't the first reply.

 

This is the standard go-to for you folks.

 

"But.. but... but... 2016!!!"

 

There's a gigantic and very obvious difference between 2020 and 2016... actually there are a bunch of them:

 

Donald Trump is the Establishment so he can't be the anti establishment candidate at this point.

 

Donald Trump was an unknown in 2016. After 3+ years as President, and one who very much loves the Public aspect of it, he's very well known at this point.

 

Connected with that last point, the American people that have gotten to know him have never given him high approval ratings. He currently sits somewhere around 40%.

 

More people BY FAR voted for 3rd party candidates in 2016--basically throwing away their votes--than in the history of our Republic. That won't happen again.

 

Both candidates in 2016 were unlikable and those voters swung heavily to Trump. Evidence suggests despite there being an "unlikable" quality to Biden, those "haters" are swinging heavily to Biden.

 

And of course there's the obvious stuff, too.

 

His handling of Covid-19 was his ultimate undoing. It's the first weekend in June and going into it over 110,000 Americans are dead. I don't know what that will be in November, but that alone is compounded by a complete lack of empathy on his part.

 

That alone just makes him lose.

 

Add to it an economy that never reached his promised highs that will likely still be struggling out of recession mode and a tone deaf idiot in terms of his handling of these protests as he attacks peaceful American protesters just for a photo op... Donald Trump is a guy who just can't get out of his own way.

 

America has gotten to know Donald Trump well and doesn't like him. 2016 is irrelevant. That weatherman fallacy is a desperate attempt to cling to a President who's going down in flames.

[ComradeKayAdams]

On 6/6/2020 at 12:02 AM, transplantbillsfan said:

More people BY FAR voted for 3rd party candidates in 2016--basically throwing away their votes--than in the history of our Republic. That won't happen again.

 

This doesn’t sound right to me. What about Ross Perot in 1992 and 1996? Or George Wallace in 1968? And if you go by percentages of total votes instead of overall third-party voting numbers, then this narrative quickly falters. Also, voting for third parties isn’t throwing your vote away. Third parties have historically played a critical role in forcing major changes with the policy platforms and internal composition of the two major American parties, even if they have rarely supplanted them. And finally, are you looking at any polling evidence that suggests people are less likely to vote third party than in 2016? Anything that I’ve seen so far implies the opposite: people in 2020 have only grown more disenchanted with the two-party duopoly.

 

I should mention that there is still a small chance that Jesse Ventura will run as the Green Party candidate. This would be an absolute game changer to the Trump-Biden paradigm if it happens. Think 1992 Ross Perot, but less predictable because Jesse could potentially draw as many Never Trumpers and libertarians as he could progressive lefties. Most likely, however, Howie Hawkins will be the guy and will beat out Dario Hunter. Hawkins has been sharply criticized for a bunch of things like his involvement with internal Green Party corruption, his dubious campaign staff choices, and his neo-McCarthyism Russiagating. But I don’t really know if any of this will affect the Green nomination outcome and, in turn, the general November election in any pronounced way.

 

I won’t challenge the rest of your post. You could easily be right or wrong, depending on so many variables that have yet to play out. Just look at how radically different the political landscape is now compared to a couple months ago! Trump’s pandemic response has definitely strained his older voting base, especially female Boomers and Silenters. Trump’s heavy-handed riot/protest response has also placed undue pressure on his libertarian base. From Biden’s perspective, the black vote turnout is way too chaotic to predict right now. You have to consider a host of factors like Biden’s Charlamagne tha God interview, all of his other ridiculous race-related comments, his old alliances with segregationists, his criminal law voting record, the BLM current events, his Obama friendship, and his VP choice (I’ve long suspected Kamala Harris). I also wouldn’t rely on the Millenials and Zoomers to come out for Biden. It’s a small mystery as to where Latinos will go or if they bother to come out to vote at all this time. I assume the white working class will go heavy for Trump, but I’ve also seen polling data indicating trends running in the other direction.

 

Later I think I’ll talk more about the party loyalty status of the Democratic Party’s progressive wing. I like your thread’s potential! Now that Biden clinched the primary, it should supersede some of the other threads and become the marquee November 2020 presidential election thread. I hope it doesn’t get lost among the dozen or so ones discussing the same bleeping topic of police protests…

[Foxx]

On 6/5/2020 at 11:27 PM, transplantbillsfan said:

So on Tuesday, November 3rd, 2020, it's Donald Trump vs Joe Biden.

more like Trump versus the criminal cabal. Joe isn't going to be running anything except in his Depends.

[transplantbillsfan]

4 hours ago, Foxx said:

more like Trump versus the criminal cabal. Joe isn't going to be running anything except in his Depends.

 

Awww I missed you Foxxy

 

Where ya been?

[KD in CA]

Great.  
 

Four more years of mass hysteria.....or elect a dementia-ridden puppet.  Awesome choice.

[Foxx]

17 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Awww I missed you Foxxy

 

Where ya been?

working on my self sustainability.

[ALF]

If Biden were elected he would have handlers or Cabinet  pulling the strings . Just hope they would be competent. I would be ok with a good committee calling the shots.

Edited June 9, 2020 by ALF

[Nanker]

7 minutes ago, ALF said:

If Biden were elected he would have handlers or Cabinet  pulling the strings . Just hope they would be competent. I would be ok with a good committee calling the shots.

Ah yes, Comrade ALF. A Politburo! A Capital idea. Or should I say, a Communist idea. Just what Amerika needs. More centralized thuggery.

[ALF]

37 minutes ago, Nanker said:

Ah yes, Comrade ALF. A Politburo! A Capital idea. Or should I say, a Communist idea. Just what Amerika needs. More centralized thuggery.

 

So you think if Biden were elected it would be better if he did not have advisors ?

 

Record high federal , state and local deficits,  record unemployment , pandemic , civil unrest , bankruptcies , evictions foreclosures , vehicle  repo , yep Trump in a landslide

Edited June 9, 2020 by ALF

[Tiberius]

On 6/6/2020 at 12:02 AM, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I'm surprised this wasn't the first reply.

 

This is the standard go-to for you folks.

 

"But.. but... but... 2016!!!"

 

There's a gigantic and very obvious difference between 2020 and 2016... actually there are a bunch of them:

 

Donald Trump is the Establishment so he can't be the anti establishment candidate at this point.

 

Donald Trump was an unknown in 2016. After 3+ years as President, and one who very much loves the Public aspect of it, he's very well known at this point.

 

Connected with that last point, the American people that have gotten to know him have never given him high approval ratings. He currently sits somewhere around 40%.

 

More people BY FAR voted for 3rd party candidates in 2016--basically throwing away their votes--than in the history of our Republic. That won't happen again.

 

Both candidates in 2016 were unlikable and those voters swung heavily to Trump. Evidence suggests despite there being an "unlikable" quality to Biden, those "haters" are swinging heavily to Biden.

 

And of course there's the obvious stuff, too.

 

His handling of Covid-19 was his ultimate undoing. It's the first weekend in June and going into it over 110,000 Americans are dead. I don't know what that will be in November, but that alone is compounded by a complete lack of empathy on his part.

 

That alone just makes him lose.

 

Add to it an economy that never reached his promised highs that will likely still be struggling out of recession mode and a tone deaf idiot in terms of his handling of these protests as he attacks peaceful American protesters just for a photo op... Donald Trump is a guy who just can't get out of his own way.

 

America has gotten to know Donald Trump well and doesn't like him. 2016 is irrelevant. That weatherman fallacy is a desperate attempt to cling to a President who's going down in flames.

Women hate him, too. And the majority of voters are the ladies. 

 

I just wonder how many young people are registering to vote. 

 

But, Truman was suppose to lose in 1948, too. 

[3rdnlng]

2 hours ago, ALF said:

 

So you think if Biden were elected it would be better if he did not have advisors ?

 

Record high federal , state and local deficits,  record unemployment , pandemic , civil unrest , bankruptcies , evictions foreclosures , vehicle  repo , yep Trump in a landslide

Just when a strong leader is needed. Gee, I wonder where we can find one?

 

Not to take away from the point I'm making but has the bolded above happened yet or is that just your wish list? 

[ALF]

3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Just when a strong leader is needed. Gee, I wonder where we can find one?

 

Not to take away from the point I'm making but has the bolded above happened yet or is that just your wish list? 

 

my nightmare

[3rdnlng]

44 minutes ago, ALF said:

 

my nightmare

You need to find some emojiis. Somehow your message isn't getting across if you want to characterize what I bolded as a nightmare. 

[ComradeKayAdams]

TLDR Summary: I expect the progressive left voters from the Democratic primaries to stick with Biden at about 85%, which would be a little lower than Hillary’s approximate 90% in 2016. Tracking the African American turnout, the Trump voter defections, and the roughly 40% of apolitical independent voters in the general election will likely be far more relevant and interesting to our election analyses moving forward.

 

On 6/8/2020 at 7:53 AM, RealKayAdams said:

Later I think I’ll talk more about the party loyalty status of the Democratic Party’s progressive wing.

 

Ok so now I’m going to delve a little deeper into the loyalty landscape of the particular demographic I’m most familiar with: the progressive left wing. At this point in time, I think Biden has already secured as much of this voting bloc as he can from the Democratic presidential primaries. I know the Warren suburban liberal female base is firmly in his camp. Same with the supporters of Beto, Castro, and de Blasio if you want to call these fellas progressive. Basically, any progressive who is big on social justice issues or is a believer in Russiagate has already aligned with Biden. Last I checked, the Yang Gang populist faction have mostly dissolved and will be either voting third party or staying home. The Tulsi anti-establishment crowd already defected from the Democratic Party way back in mid-March and are equally dispersed in every direction so as not to be a factor in the election. Marianne Williamson’s people have all gone Green.

 

The much much bigger Bernie crowd appears to be falling in line with Biden at a 4-to-1 ratio right now, based on personal anecdotes and internal Bernie campaign canvassing polls and social media surveys. The emerging consensus among the “4” people is that Trump is an existential threat to the country, the Democratic Party can be reformed from within, and that incremental progress is the most realistic option. The “1” people do not believe Biden is necessarily the lesser of two evils from a long-term point of view, are done with selling out to centrists, believe the DNC is structurally incapable of reform, and feel that the Democratic Party must be burned to the ground from the outside by either voting third party or staying home. This 4-to-1 Bernie schism also seems to be reflected in the civil war within the top rungs of Bernie’s staff: the Jeff Weaver DC political careerist types happy to compromise with the establishment, versus the grassroots-based types who demand public policy purity.

 

I figure this approximate 4-to-1 Bernie base ratio will hold into November, which means that I expect Biden to hold a very substantial portion of the overall progressive base (around 85%?) and maybe only a little worse than what Hillary rallied in 2016 (about 5% worse?). So I don’t think progressive loyalty to the Dems will be nearly as relevant to November 3 as the black turnout, the possible cadre of post-pandemic/post-protest Trump deserters, or the ever-mysterious voter pool of 40+% politically disengaged/disgusted Americans. The primaries showed me that the progressive left is likely a much smaller subset of Dems than I had initially hoped. I had also hoped that my fellow lefties would have distanced themselves from the rioting aspect of the otherwise beautiful Floyd protests. Nope! Instead at a nearly unanimous percentage, they are doubling down with calls for poorly articulated police defunding/abolition plans, downplaying property destruction, conspiracy theorizing the non-existence of Antifa, and outright lying about some of the basic realities of the crime data compiled by the DOJ. These attitudes are going to DESTROY much of the political progress I thought us Bernie folk were making with moderates, Boomers, and the country at large for the past five years.

 

So when you situate the progressive left’s relatively small size and their unruly behavior in conjunction with their ease in bending the knee to Biden, then I believe it’s fair to say that my team conceded all relevance and power leverage in the November election (anyone who mentions the words “unity task force” in my vicinity shall receive a very intimidating scowl from me). In other words, the progressive left is in complete shambles and has been effectively subsumed as the DNC originally intended. Way to go, guys.

[Deranged Rhino]

5 hours ago, ALF said:

If Biden were elected he would have handlers or Cabinet  pulling the strings . Just hope they would be competent. I would be ok with a good committee calling the shots.

 

But Alf, we know who the cabinet will be -- they'll be filled with lieutenants from the Clinton and Obama machines. They won't be a "good committee", they'll be filled with the same people who abused the law for their own benefit for decades. The very same people who built the system people now are protesting over being "systemically unjust". And unlike the last few times they've been in power, being No Chance Joe's shadow cabinet means they can be even more extreme because they'll have zero accountability to the voters. 

 

Not only is what you're suggesting fundamentally against everything in the constitution and American ethos, it's blisteringly stupid to plug in the same people who already failed/robbed/conned us all and expect them to do something different this time. 

[LB3]

 

[SectionC3]

On 6/8/2020 at 8:12 AM, Foxx said:

more like Trump versus the criminal cabal. Joe isn't going to be running anything except in his Depends.

 

Trump v criminal cabal?  Is there a civil war in the alt-wrong community? 

[Nanker]

6 hours ago, ALF said:

 

So you think if Biden were elected it would be better if he did not have advisors ?

 

Record high federal , state and local deficits,  record unemployment , pandemic , civil unrest , bankruptcies , evictions foreclosures , vehicle  repo , yep Trump in a landslide

Yes! Bring back the Czars! Obama had about 20 of them. Maybe they'll call them something else now that Russia is so out of style.

How about Emperors, or Ming Lords. That would fit SloMo Joe much better with his admiration of Dictator Xi. 

[keepthefaith]

On 6/5/2020 at 11:02 PM, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I'm surprised this wasn't the first reply.

 

This is the standard go-to for you folks.

 

"But.. but... but... 2016!!!"

 

There's a gigantic and very obvious difference between 2020 and 2016... actually there are a bunch of them:

 

Donald Trump is the Establishment so he can't be the anti establishment candidate at this point.

 

Donald Trump was an unknown in 2016. After 3+ years as President, and one who very much loves the Public aspect of it, he's very well known at this point.

 

Connected with that last point, the American people that have gotten to know him have never given him high approval ratings. He currently sits somewhere around 40%.

 

More people BY FAR voted for 3rd party candidates in 2016--basically throwing away their votes--than in the history of our Republic. That won't happen again.

 

Both candidates in 2016 were unlikable and those voters swung heavily to Trump. Evidence suggests despite there being an "unlikable" quality to Biden, those "haters" are swinging heavily to Biden.

 

And of course there's the obvious stuff, too.

 

His handling of Covid-19 was his ultimate undoing. It's the first weekend in June and going into it over 110,000 Americans are dead. I don't know what that will be in November, but that alone is compounded by a complete lack of empathy on his part.

 

That alone just makes him lose.

 

Add to it an economy that never reached his promised highs that will likely still be struggling out of recession mode and a tone deaf idiot in terms of his handling of these protests as he attacks peaceful American protesters just for a photo op... Donald Trump is a guy who just can't get out of his own way.

 

America has gotten to know Donald Trump well and doesn't like him. 2016 is irrelevant. That weatherman fallacy is a desperate attempt to cling to a President who's going down in flames.

 

Feelings, nothing more than feelings,
Trying to forget my feelings of love.
Tears drops rolling down on my face,
Trying to forget my feelings of love.

Feelings, for all my life I'll feel it.
I wish I've never met you, girl;
You'll never come again.
Feelings, wo-o-o feelings

[transplantbillsfan]

On 6/9/2020 at 1:01 AM, ALF said:

If Biden were elected he would have handlers or Cabinet  pulling the strings . Just hope they would be competent. I would be ok with a good committee calling the shots.

 

Yep. This is the way I see it.

 

His VP choice is going to be a big deal. 

 

I said since Biden entered the race that a Biden-Harris ticket would be very likely. I'll stick with that. Choosing her would be another boost to the campaign.

[transplantbillsfan]

On 6/9/2020 at 7:42 AM, Nanker said:

Yes! Bring back the Czars! Obama had about 20 of them. Maybe they'll call them something else now that Russia is so out of style.

How about Emperors, or Ming Lords. That would fit SloMo Joe much better with his admiration of Dictator Xi. 

 

Bush was Cheney's puppet and Karl Rove and Donald Rumsfeld did A LOT in that Administration as well.

 

You're acting like this would be the first time in history the President delegated power.

 

A good leader appoints good people he trusts underneath him rather than micromanaging every single issue.

 

One of the biggest problems with the Trump administration is he's constantly micromanaging and trusts no one.

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Bush was Cheney's puppet and Karl Rove and Donald Rumsfeld did A LOT in that Administration as well.

 

You're acting like this would be the first time in history the President delegated power.

 

A good leader appoints good people he trusts underneath him rather than micromanaging every single issue.

 

One of the biggest problems with the Trump administration is he's constantly micromanaging and trusts no one.

Doesn’t it give you ANY pause to be forced to cite Cheney as a GOOD reason why you support an unconstitutional construct? 

[Nanker]

15 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Bush was Cheney's puppet and Karl Rove and Donald Rumsfeld did A LOT in that Administration as well.

 

You're acting like this would be the first time in history the President delegated power.

 

A good leader appoints good people he trusts underneath him rather than micromanaging every single issue.

 

One of the biggest problems with the Trump administration is he's constantly micromanaging and trusts no one.

That’s what the Cabinet is supposed to do. Trump has picked people and given them a free hand to implement his policies. When they f ***** k up, he s ***** t-cans them straightaway. That’s what a leader does... tries to find the right people to do specific jobs and judges them on their results. 
 

That he’s fired so many of these politicos is an object lesson in how corrupt and self-serving most of the Swamp’s professional patronage job seekers are. 
 

Biden’s situation is different. He doesn’t have the mental faculties to understand WTF he’s talking about and wouldn’t be able to oversee a GirlScout troop (much as he’d like to spend his time doing just that) nevertheless a pack of voracious self-aggrandizing “progressives” who are more interested in building their own fiefdoms and lining their pockets with the people’s money. It’s what grifters like the Clintons, Gores, and Biden’s do. 

Edited June 12, 2020 by Nanker

[BillStime]

Dems are kidding themselves if they think they have any chance against Trump. It’s not because Trump will actually win more votes - but enough votes will be changed in crucial swing states to give Trump the win. Just like, no doubt, what happened in 2016.

 

How else can you explain the utter carefree approach of Ms Lindsey Graham; MoscowMitch and all the other pedophiles in the Republican Party?

 

No way Trump loses. 

Edited June 12, 2020 by BillStime

[Bray Wyatt]

Is Joe aware?

[transplantbillsfan]

18 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Doesn’t it give you ANY pause to be forced to cite Cheney as a GOOD reason why you support an unconstitutional construct? 

 

Who said good?

 

It's just recent.

 

Plus it was a Republican Administration so you right wingers over here can frolic in the reference.

Edited June 12, 2020 by transplantbillsfan

[Tiberius]

11 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Bush was Cheney's puppet and Karl Rove and Donald Rumsfeld did A LOT in that Administration as well.

 

You're acting like this would be the first time in history the President delegated power.

 

A good leader appoints good people he trusts underneath him rather than micromanaging every single issue.

 

One of the biggest problems with the Trump administration is he's constantly micromanaging and trusts no one.

Like Trump has done with Jared Kushner, lol. 

 

 

[Wacka]

Despite what Tibs keeps spouting from one of the orifices on his body, you don.t hear anything about polls. If Biden was way ahead like Tibs says, they'd be screaming it. That means that Trump is doing fine. 

[Deranged Rhino]

8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Who said good?

 

It's just recent.

 

Plus he's it was a Republican Administration so you right wingers over here can frolic in the reference.

 

It was unconstitutional when Cheney did it. It's unconstitutional still. Yet you support it because "Cheney did it". 

 

It's a shallow, weak, immature argument from a broken mind. 

 

Do better. 

[B-Man]

Biden is doing worse than Clinton among Hispanic voters

CNN, by Harry Enten

 

Original Article

 

Joe Biden is reaching heights that Hillary Clinton never did this late in the campaign against Donald Trump. The former vice president holds a significant national lead of around 10 points and is over 50% support. Yet a look at recent polls suggests Trump is outperforming where he was four years ago with a key part of the Democratic coalition: Hispanics. This could have implications for what electoral strategy Biden may need to take into the fall if he is to beat the President. Clinton crushed Trump with Hispanic registered voters in the final 2016 preelection polls. 

 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

9 hours ago, Wacka said:

Despite what Tibs keeps spouting from one of the orifices on his body, you don.t hear anything about polls. If Biden was way ahead like Tibs says, they'd be screaming it. That means that Trump is doing fine. 

 

Don't hear anything about polls?

If you wanna hear about polls, here's the summary:

 

Biden is winning.

Edited June 12, 2020 by transplantbillsfan

[ComradeKayAdams]

23 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:

Is Joe aware?

 

Depends on what time of the day it is. Sundowning effects from dementia tend to begin in the late afternoon (hence the name “sundowning”).

 

12 hours ago, Wacka said:

Despite what Tibs keeps spouting from one of the orifices on his body, you don.t hear anything about polls. If Biden was way ahead like Tibs says, they'd be screaming it. That means that Trump is doing fine. 

 

All the latest polls assembled at RealClearPolitics show Biden with a strong lead over Trump. He is doing better than Trump in virtually every vital swing state and noticeably better than what Hillary was doing in early June 2016. Having said that, I suppose everyone is free to question the accuracy of the polls or worthiness of polls taken 5 months away from an election.

 

The most recent CNN poll, however, indicates a potentially different narrative if you read between the lines. Trump remains more trusted on the economy than Biden, which is obviously quite huge because this issue alone will probably determine the fall election (barring a second dramatic coronavirus surge or a world war). Even bigger, Trump is maintaining that tremendous supporter enthusiasm gap he has long held over Biden.

 

In terms of the overall election outlook, none of these summer polls are nearly as relevant as the summer economic data that will be pouring in. The biggest concern should be the looming rent and mortgage crisis. We should also be tracking new unemployment claims, expirations of unemployment benefits, credit card and student loan defaults, entrepreneurship and new small business formation stats, big business employee payroll retentions, and things like that (DJIA and GDP too if you insist).

 

But while the election should come down to the economy, economic health is not at all an objective truth with objective causes and objective prospects (proof: Dems and Reps can never seem to agree on it). The winner of the November election will ultimately be the one who best frames the October economic situation in his favor. Right now I think I’m leaning toward the high-energy master salesman guy who is always tweeting, holding rallies, working the media, and spinning information to his avail. If my sobering canvassing experiences have taught me anything, it is that electoral campaigns are first and foremost about emotional psychology and human connections, with rational policy analyses and facts and data much further behind in importance. I sort of get the logic with the Biden campaign’s strategy of concealing Joe from the public. Minimize Bidenesque gaffes. Streamline campaign machine efforts and save expenses for fall advertising. Bank on Trump self-immolating. Coast on vague feelings of voter nostalgia for a more “normal” time (2009-2016, a time which wasn’t all that great for a majority of Americans anyway...). But Hillary ran a similar playbook in 2016. Feels too much like running a prevent defense in football, no? Ya can’t hide from the people forever and then expect them to be super motivated to come out and vote for you.

 

10 hours ago, B-Man said:

Biden is doing worse than Clinton among Hispanic voters

 

Hmmm…the data sample seems too small for my tastes, and Biden’s numbers are too close to Hillary’s to necessitate sounding alarms. Hispanic demographic data should also be separated by geographic region to get more meaningful trends. Hispanics overall loved Bernie as of a few months ago. They will still come out to vote for Biden if he puts in a genuine effort to visit their communities, speak to them, listen to them, and not challenge them to fights or pushups.

 

2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

 

Texas becoming a swing state in 2020 could force a 2024 political realignment in the post-Trump world. Who knows how the power vacuum would be filled…maybe a left-right populism alliance versus a left-right establishment alliance?

[3rdnlng]

It appears that Biden does not have the stamina to run a campaign that touches on all bases.

[Chef Jim]

On 6/11/2020 at 5:35 PM, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Yep. This is the way I see it.

 

His VP choice is going to be a big deal. 

 

I said since Biden entered the race that a Biden-Harris ticket would be very likely. I'll stick with that. Choosing her would be another boost to the campaign.

Please oh please oh please!

 

Unless of course he wins. I don’t want to have to listen to Fran Drescher drone on for four years. 

[Foxx]

https://twitter.com/KyleMartinsen_/status/1271626236952039425

 

[RiotAct]

to be fair, I don’t know if that Youtube counter is really accurate.  I’ve tuned in to a couple COVID relief concerts since March and it always says some insanely low # of people is watching.

[B-Man]

 

 

Biden Narrows VP Pick Down to Six Women—But Look Who’s NOT on the List!

by Jim Hoft

 

Original Article

 

According to the AP the Joe Biden Campaign has narrowed his VP search to six contenders. The list is newsworthy for who made the list and who didn’t. Who made the list: Rep. Val Demings (D-FL), Senator Liz Warren, compulsive liar Susan Rice, Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms, Kamala Harris and crazed New Mexico Governor Michelle Grisham.

Noticeably missing: Tyrannical Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and failed Georgia candidate Stacy Abrams.