Aaron Rodgers speaking to reporters Friday

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

So uh, did he speak to reporters or nah?

 

[Gugny]

Twenty-nine consecutive years with a HOF QB and they managed to get two Super Bowl rings.

 

That's almost as bad as the Bills' drought.

[Doc Brown]

10 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Brett Favre was a legend once too. The 2005 Packers drafted Rodgers over Roddy White and the Pack went 4-12. They should have drafted Roddy so they didn't hurt Brett's feelings and send him into retirement or demand a trade!

If Rodgers was considering retirement the pick and their draft as a whole would make more sense.  They can't release Rodgers until after the 2022 season without taking a massive dead money cap hit.  Favre considered retirement that offseason and didn't announce he'd come back until a month before the draft.  Nobody was surprised with that pick considering Rodgers fell to them when there was talk of him going at #1 overall.  

 

Let's say the best case scenario is Love takes over for Rodgers in 2023 and has a great season.  He'll then demand a massive contract extension and they're stuck trying to build a competitive roster being handcuffed by the big QB contract again.

[FireChans]

11 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Good catch on losing Martinez and downgrading with Kirksey.  

 

 

Favre had taken a beating over his career at that point, and they had just lost their playoff game to the Vikings at home.  They didn't just come off a trip to the NFCCG.

 

And they might be tanking.  Their team is definitely worse than the once that was trounced in the NFCCG.  And again, Love doesn't help them at all this or probably even next year.

 

 

Closer to what?  A SB this year or next?  Nope.  In about 3 years when Love is ready to start?  Lots of things will be different by then.

 

If they think Rodgers has taken them as far as they can go, they should tear it down.  And judging by what they lost and didn't add, they probably will next off-season.

You didn’t see the beating they took in the NFCCG, huh?

 

They weren’t tanking. They are paying Rodgers a zillion dollars. They lost some decent FA’s and signed others to replace them. Rodgers cap hit doesn’t make it easy.

6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Who knows if they could’ve won another SB with Favre if he had Roddy.  They made the playoffs the previous 4 years.  Then they drafted Rodgers, pissed off Favre and didn’t win another with him.  

Now they’re hoping that they hit lightning in a bottle again.....while they close the book on winning another Super Bowl with a legend.....and now have to deal with his crabby *$$.

 

time will tell.

So are you telling me they should have drafted Roddy and not Rodgers? 

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

If Rodgers was considering retirement the pick and their draft as a whole would make more sense.  They can't release Rodgers until after the 2022 season without taking a massive dead money cap hit.  Favre considered retirement that offseason and didn't announce he'd come back until a month before the draft.  Nobody was surprised with that pick considering Rodgers fell to them when there was talk of him going at #1 overall.  

 

Let's say the best case scenario is Love takes over for Rodgers in 2023 and has a great season.  He'll then demand a massive contract extension and they're stuck trying to build a competitive roster being handcuffed by the big QB contract again.

They can get out of Rodgers contract next offseason. This is going to be his last year in GB.

 

Rodgers’ play has declined, he is an ass to every coach he’s ever had. He’s already clashing with his new coach, who took a 6 win team to a 13 win team. If you are working in GB, it’s easy to see why they are planning an Aaron Rodgers exit strategy.

[IgotBILLStopay]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Realistically, what could we get for Beasley and what player could work the slot like he does?

i had suggested Packers’ 2021 2nd rounder. Packers will be getting Beasley at a discounted rate salary wise (He has a front loaded contract - so Bills have already paid a big chunk) which they desperately need since they don’t have much cap room to work with.

 

Davis and Duke are the obvious slot replacements. Davis’ calling card is separation - not speed. And Duke played in the slot more than a third of the time last year even with Beasley on the team

Edited May 15, 2020 by IgotBILLStopay

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, FireChans said:

You didn’t see the beating they took in the NFCCG, huh?

 

They weren’t tanking. They are paying Rodgers a zillion dollars. They lost some decent FA’s and signed others to replace them. Rodgers cap hit doesn’t make it easy.

So are you telling me they should have drafted Roddy and not Rodgers? 

 

They can get out of Rodgers contract next offseason. This is going to be his last year in GB.

 

Rodgers’ play has declined, he is an ass to every coach he’s ever had. He’s already clashing with his new coach, who took a 6 win team to a 13 win team. If you are working in GB, it’s easy to see why they are planning an Aaron Rodgers exit strategy.

I’m telling you that it’s possible the packers would have more Super Bowls than they currently have if they had drafted White.  But we’re talking about pretend again.  

I’m not seeing a potential out in the contract til after the 2021 season

 

 

again.  I’m not even advocating that the packers take a WR in rd 1.  That D that you were talking about getting thrashed, needs MLB and had Patrick Queen looking them in the face.  Then the ravens took him. The team that drafts better than everyone every year. 
 

of course his play has declined.  His WRs and TEs are terrible.  His OL is always getting injured.  He’s getting older. Tom Brady won multiple Super Bowls with declining play.  

We keep saying the same stuff as the other thread.  My final thought before I sign out of this thread:  I think Jordan Love is a nice prospect and could be a very good starter.  I don’t think he’s a good enough prospect to give up on Aaron Rodgers and close the door on his career as a packer.  I think he’s capable of winning another super bowl....

 

but that’s not really what this is all about.  I realize that all of that doesn’t mean much when the head coach can’t handle the QB.  When it’s all said and done, this isn’t about Rodgers vs Love.  It’s about Rodgers vs LaFluer.  

 

It’s just hard for me to pick LaFluer over AR at this point.  

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Are they a rookie QB away from the SB? 

 

The rookie QB is likely 2years away form starting so your question isn't as clever as you think.

 

Look, sure they could use another decent WR.  It won't make a difference.  Last year was a fluke.  Put Michael Thomas on that team right now and they still aren't going to the SB.

 

So they got their QB of the future at a relatively low price (are they going to be picking in the top 10 while Rodgers is still starting? No).

 

If the Packers make it to the NFCC again and  they lose, then those who are criticizing the Love pick might have some ground to stand on.  I'm not concerned that's going to happen.

 

Again, reasonable to fault them for not beefing up their WR room by other means.  But Tee Higgins this year doesn't have the value they believe Love has when Rodgers completely gives up.

[Rocbillsfan1]

Might as well trade him at this point, the gm and coach got what they wanted which was a fresh start with their guy. Good luck fellas. Time to sink or swim. He should demand a trade. 

[FireChans]

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’m telling you that it’s possible the packers would have more Super Bowls than they currently have if they had drafted White.  But we’re talking about pretend again.  

I’m not seeing a potential out in the contract til after the 2021 season

 

 

again.  I’m not even advocating that the packers take a WR in rd 1.  That D that you were talking about getting thrashed, needs MLB and had Patrick Queen looking them in the face.  Then the ravens took him. The team that drafts better than everyone every year. 
 

of course his play has declined.  His WRs and TEs are terrible.  His OL is always getting injured.  He’s getting older. Tom Brady won multiple Super Bowls with declining play.  

We keep saying the same stuff as the other thread.  My final thought before I sign out of this thread:  I think Jordan Love is a nice prospect and could be a very good starter.  I don’t think he’s a good enough prospect to give up on Aaron Rodgers and close the door on his career as a packer.  I think he’s capable of winning another super bowl....

 

but that’s not really what this is all about.  I realize that all of that doesn’t mean much when the head coach can’t handle the QB.  When it’s all said and done, this isn’t about Rodgers vs Love.  It’s about Rodgers vs LaFluer.  

 

It’s just hard for me to pick LaFluer over AR at this point.  

Sure. I know you’re talking hypothetically, so am I. 

 

His post June 1st hit next offseason is quite reasonable. Cut or trade. I’m not saying their cap hit will be zero, but it’s affordable.

 

We really are treading water still on this lol.

 

I agree with you that it’s really LaFleur vs Rodgers. And we aren’t there behind closed doors. I think there’s an aspect of belief that Rodgers’ talent at this point in time doesn’t excuse his behavior. 5 years ago, LaFleur may have said “okay Aaron, we’ll do what you want.” But at this point in time, that organization is not playing softball with him anymore.

 

Rodgers is closer to an Alex Smith when the Chiefs got Mahomes. They are gambling on their next QB. We will see what happens.

Edited May 15, 2020 by FireChans

[Punching Bag]

Rodgers already got paid for extension - if he wants to be traded he needs to repay it not just go to another team and get another signing bonus.

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:

Might as well trade him at this point, the gm and coach got what they wanted which was a fresh start with their guy. Good luck fellas. Time to sink or swim. He should demand a trade. 

 

It's a 51 MILLION DOLLAR Dead Money hit.

He is not going anywhere and GB front office is making mistakes after mistakes.

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Sure. I know you’re talking hypothetically, so am I. Would you argue that taking Rodgers rather than building around Favre was the wrong move?

 

His post June 1st hit next offseason is quite reasonable. Cut or trade. I’m not saying their cap hit will be zero, but it’s affordable.

I would argue that Jordan Love is not going to be nearly as good as Aaron Rodgers.  
 

We’ll never know if they would’ve won if they had built around Favre.  If they hadn’t drafted Rodgers, they may have made different transactions altogether.   They may have won none.  They may have won 2 or 3.  If they would’ve won multiple SBs, than they have made a mistake.  If they didn’t win any, than they made the right choice.  I think ending Rodgers career as a packer in this fashion and with only 1 title is a huge let down if I’m a packer fan 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

This time last season, you wouldn’t have said the Niners were a top 2 teams in the nfc.  Meaning:  your comment means nothing.  You have no idea, what their team would look like if they used that pick on Patrick Queen or and just drafted ONE WR.  We’re talking about pretend.  Not my thing.  

 

The only thing that I do know:  Drafting jordan love will have zero positive effect on them making the super bowl in the next two seasons.  

My stance on the drafting of love:   The FO signed themselves up for a headache.  A headache so painful that it will have enough of an effect on their 2020 season where they may not even make the playoffs. 
 

Why sign up for this headache when you have aaron Rodgers as your qb?  We aren’t talking about Andy dalton, Tyrod Taylor or Ryan Fitzpatrick.  It’s aaron Rodgers. An Aaron Rodgers that was just extended the previous year and is close to unmovable in a trade (from what I’ve gathered here). An Aaron Rodgers that was a win from making the super bowl last year.  An Aaron Rodgers that desperately needs better WRs.  An Aaron Rodgers that is extremely volatile.......and unmovable.  
 

They basically sabotaged themselves now they have to deal with this headache.  You can blame AR for being a crybaby, but AR was already part of the packers equation.  I’ll blame the GM that didn’t take into consideration who his Qb is.  An all time great playing well enough to win Super Bowls and is locked up for 3-4 year with a contract that can’t be moved.

 

A GM and coach that were gifted one of the best QBs ever.....can’t wait to see them win the SB without him.

 

 

 

Is that what you thought when they drafted Rodgers?  No, you didn't.  Why pretend it's shocking now?

 

And do you really think anyone in the Packers organization "didn't take into consideration who their QB is"??  That's a joke, right?  Of course they did----and that's why they drafted his replacement.  They know he's not long for this organization. 

 

"We’re talking about pretend.  Not my thing.  

 

The only thing that I do know:  Drafting jordan love will have zero positive effect on them making the super bowl in the next two seasons."

 

So, pretending to know the future is "not your thing", yet you "know" that Love will have zero impact on their chances at the SB in not just this year, but next year too? That's pretty funny.  How about this:  let's say Rodgers is injured again somewhere during either season and Love, his backup, comes in and wins every game he starts until Rodgers gets back on the field (you know, like the QB NE drafted to replace Brady did in their 2016 SB season).  Zero impact?  Or do you think Tim Boyle could do that right now?  Hint: the Packers don't.

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

You’re also the same guy who has crushed Reid for years and he just won a SB.  Why is it crazy to think a team in the NFC championship game with one good wr might win a SB with a receiver upgrade to one of the greatest qbs ever.  
 

GB is going to look back at some of the decisions they made and regret that didn’t win more SBs with one of the best QBs ever.  Dom Capers’ toupee. 

 

Everyone crushed Reid for years due to his playoff game buffoonery.  Overwhelming player talent finally surpassed his well known big game day struggles, so after 21 seasons and a billion regular season wins, many conference championship game appearances, he won a SB.  kudos.  Jon Gruden says "what took you so long?"

 

But yes, the Packers and Rodgers have zero SB appearances in 9 years...and they have had 6 seasons of 10 or more wins since then (including 2011 going 15-1 and getting crushed by the Giants in the Div game!)….but in THIS offseason, they will regret the decision to draft Rodgers's replacement as he enters the twilight of his career.

 

That's rich....

 

[Doc]

49 minutes ago, FireChans said:

You didn’t see the beating they took in the NFCCG, huh?

 

They weren’t tanking. They are paying Rodgers a zillion dollars. They lost some decent FA’s and signed others to replace them. Rodgers cap hit doesn’t make it easy.

 

I saw the beating.  They did nothing to improve their team and in fact allowed it to get worse.

 

And sure ARod's contract is large, but they could have moves to keep Martinez and still add players, like reducing Davante Adams' $12M base salary or David Bakhtiari's $10.5M salary.  And they could have drafted defense in the first round since that was an issue in that NFCCG.

 

17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

The rookie QB is likely 2years away form starting so your question isn't as clever as you think.

 

Look, sure they could use another decent WR.  It won't make a difference.  Last year was a fluke.  Put Michael Thomas on that team right now and they still aren't going to the SB.

 

So they got their QB of the future at a relatively low price (are they going to be picking in the top 10 while Rodgers is still starting? No).

 

If the Packers make it to the NFCC again and  they lose, then those who are criticizing the Love pick might have some ground to stand on.  I'm not concerned that's going to happen.

 

Again, reasonable to fault them for not beefing up their WR room by other means.  But Tee Higgins this year doesn't have the value they believe Love has when Rodgers completely gives up.

 

You're making my point for me.  Drafting Love doesn't help the team in any way, shape or form for at least 2 years, if not more.  And as we've seen, it has caused division.  A 1st round rookie WR, or LB or DE could help the team.  This isn't some team that got destroyed in the wildcard round at home, like in 2004.

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

I saw the beating.  They did nothing to improve their team and in fact allowed it to get worse.

 

And sure ARod's contract is large, but they could have moves to keep Martinez and still add players, like reducing Davante Adams' $12M base salary or David Bakhtiari's $10.5M salary.  And they could have drafted defense in the first round since that was an issue in that NFCCG.

 

 

You're making my point for me.  Drafting Love doesn't help the team in any way, shape or form for at least 2 years, if not more.  And as we've seen, it has caused division.  A 1st round rookie WR, or LB or DE could help the team.  This isn't some team that got destroyed in the wildcard round at home, like in 2004.

Wow, you’re very sure of things you can’t prove.

[Doc]

5 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Wow, you’re very sure of things you can’t prove.

 

Huh?  The only thing I said there that I'm sure of is that Love won't help them for a few years.

[NewEra]

16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Everyone crushed Reid for years due to his playoff game buffoonery.  Overwhelming player talent finally surpassed his well known big game day struggles, so after 21 seasons and a billion regular season wins, many conference championship game appearances, he won a SB.  kudos.  Jon Gruden says "what took you so long?"

 

But yes, the Packers and Rodgers have zero SB appearances in 9 years...and they have had 6 seasons of 10 or more wins since then (including 2011 going 15-1 and getting crushed by the Giants in the Div game!)….but in THIS offseason, they will regret the decision to draft Rodgers's replacement as he enters the twilight of his career.

 

That's rich....

 

Lol.  Everyone? 

 

33 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Is that what you thought when they drafted Rodgers?  No, you didn't.  Why pretend it's shocking now?

 

And do you really think anyone in the Packers organization "didn't take into consideration who their QB is"??  That's a joke, right?  Of course they did----and that's why they drafted his replacement.  They know he's not long for this organization. 

 

"We’re talking about pretend.  Not my thing.  

 

The only thing that I do know:  Drafting jordan love will have zero positive effect on them making the super bowl in the next two seasons."

 

So, pretending to know the future is "not your thing", yet you "know" that Love will have zero impact on their chances at the SB in not just this year, but next year too? That's pretty funny.  How about this:  let's say Rodgers is injured again somewhere during either season and Love, his backup, comes in and wins every game he starts until Rodgers gets back on the field (you know, like the QB NE drafted to replace Brady did in their 2016 SB season).  Zero impact?  Or do you think Tim Boyle could do that right now?  Hint: the Packers don't.

 

 

Yes, I’m sure.  Talk to me in two years.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

So I listened to the call. He didn’t give the media much to run with.

 

basically said he wants to play into in his forties and while he once thought playing his entire career With one team was the dream, he needs to be realistic and will support and help develop guys behind him on the depth chart. 
 

 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

I saw the beating.  They did nothing to improve their team and in fact allowed it to get worse.

 

And sure ARod's contract is large, but they could have moves to keep Martinez and still add players, like reducing Davante Adams' $12M base salary or David Bakhtiari's $10.5M salary.  And they could have drafted defense in the first round since that was an issue in that NFCCG.

 

 

You're making my point for me.  Drafting Love doesn't help the team in any way, shape or form for at least 2 years, if not more.  And as we've seen, it has caused division.  A 1st round rookie WR, or LB or DE could help the team.  This isn't some team that got destroyed in the wildcard round at home, like in 2004.

 

See above. 

 

It's not even that 15-1 team that went one and done in 2011.  Rodgers was all world that season: 45 TD passes on 6 INTs.....still got his azz bounced in one playoff game.  THAT Aaron Rodgers isn't walking through the door in September....

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Lol.  Everyone? 

 

Yes, I’m sure.  Talk to me in two years.

 

Everyone with access to a televised game I meant...

[IgotBILLStopay]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

Who’s to say that Hodgins and Davis are good enough to contribute this year?  It took us long enough to build a very good WR unit....and before we even play a game, you want to break it up?  Ffs

It is a numbers thing. if you add a WR like Diggs, you want him in on 90% of the snaps. And if you draft someone in the 4th round, (Davis) you want him on the roster and taking a decent number of snaps. Even if we part with Duke’s ( and I don’t think we will) snaps, that alone can be barely enough for Davis. Where are you going to find snaps for Diggs?

 

Is Beasley going to be happy with 40% of the swaps relative to 2019? He was unhappy when his number was not called enough in Dallas.

 

Bottomline - my trade suggestion was not a random thought but involves chemistry, opportunity and market value considerations. This is not to say that the trade will definitely happen - just that Beane has reasons to pull the trigger on such a trade and it would not be totally bad for us.

 

 

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, FireChans said:

They can get out of Rodgers contract next offseason. This is going to be his last year in GB.

 

Rodgers’ play has declined, he is an ass to every coach he’s ever had. He’s already clashing with his new coach, who took a 6 win team to a 13 win team. If you are working in GB, it’s easy to see why they are planning an Aaron Rodgers exit strategy.

They can but it will be 31.5 million in dead cap.  That's assuming Love is the prospect they envisioned to which I have serious doubts watching him play last year.

[FireChans]

6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

They can but it will be 31.5 million in dead cap.  That's assuming Love is the prospect they envisioned to which I have serious doubts watching him play last year.

Post June 1st it is not.

 

I bet they like Love more than you do.

Edited May 16, 2020 by FireChans

[SirAndrew]

50 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

It is a numbers thing. if you add a WR like Diggs, you want him in on 90% of the snaps. And if you draft someone in the 4th round, (Davis) you want him on the roster and taking a decent number of snaps. Even if we part with Duke’s ( and I don’t think we will) snaps, that alone can be barely enough for Davis. Where are you going to find snaps for Diggs?

 

Is Beasley going to be happy with 40% of the swaps relative to 2019? He was unhappy when his number was not called enough in Dallas.

 

Bottomline - my trade suggestion was not a random thought but involves chemistry, opportunity and market value considerations. This is not to say that the trade will definitely happen - just that Beane has reasons to pull the trigger on such a trade and it would not be totally bad for us.

 

 

I get your point, but I don’t follow why Beasley would only be seeing 40% of snaps? I guess you’re saying that Beasley would be getting less playing time to make room for Davis? Three and four receiver sets are common these days. I don’t see a scenario where Beasley would be unhappy with his playing time, because Davis can get playing time along with Beasley. If Davis came out looking like an all pro early in the year, maybe I’d have some concerns about Beasley’s playing time. However, I don’t see Davis jumping Beasley on the depth chart. WR’s take a while to acclimate to the pro game. We have no idea if Davis can even play at the pro level. I’d be open to a Beasley trade if Davis and/or Hodgins proven they can. 

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Post June 1st it is not.

 

I bet they like Love more than you do.

What is it post June 1st?

[Doc Brown]

19 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Post June 1st it is not.

 

I bet they like Love more than you do.

Post June 1st 2021 they carry a dead cap of 21.5 million that season and then 17.2 million dead cap in 2022 if they trade him.  14.3 million in 2021 and 17.2 if they straight out release him.  That's pry their best option if they want to have any success on Love's rookie deal if he does turn out to be everything they think he can be.

Edited May 16, 2020 by Doc Brown

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

It is a numbers thing. if you add a WR like Diggs, you want him in on 90% of the snaps. And if you draft someone in the 4th round, (Davis) you want him on the roster and taking a decent number of snaps. Even if we part with Duke’s ( and I don’t think we will) snaps, that alone can be barely enough for Davis. Where are you going to find snaps for Diggs?

 

Is Beasley going to be happy with 40% of the swaps relative to 2019? He was unhappy when his number was not called enough in Dallas.

 

Bottomline - my trade suggestion was not a random thought but involves chemistry, opportunity and market value considerations. This is not to say that the trade will definitely happen - just that Beane has reasons to pull the trigger on such a trade and it would not be totally bad for us.

 

 

Beasley isn’t going anywhere in 2020.  

[aristocrat]

Packers should realize that titles are what matter.  Many players don’t understand the window they have until it’s too late. You gotta win now. 

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

See above. 

 

It's not even that 15-1 team that went one and done in 2011.  Rodgers was all world that season: 45 TD passes on 6 INTs.....still got his azz bounced in one playoff game.  THAT Aaron Rodgers isn't walking through the door in September....

 

Rodgers and Mahomes had nearly identical stats this season.  Mahomes had a far superior supporting cast.

[K-9]

Is Rodgers totally unaware of the word “gracious?” If he wasn’t the hypocritical douche that he is, he would be the consummate teammate and welcome the new QB with open arms. He would offer to help the new QB in every way possible while letting him know that he (the new QB) will have to compete his ass off to win the job because he (Rodgers) isn’t gonna give an inch. In other words, Rodgers should be the complete opposite of Favre when he (Rodgers) came into the league. 

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

Rodgers and Mahomes had nearly identical stats this season.  Mahomes had a far superior supporting cast.

 

 

That's nice.  Mahomes was injured and had 85 fewer passing attempts.  

 

Rodgers had a pretty good "supporting cast" in 2011.  No SB. No playoff win.

 

 

[GoBills808]

13 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Rodgers and Mahomes had nearly identical stats this season.  Mahomes had a far superior supporting cast.

Rodgers was working with wideouts who wouldn't start for the Bills, which should tell you something.

[Doc]

12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

That's nice.  Mahomes was injured and had 85 fewer passing attempts.  

 

Rodgers had a pretty good "supporting cast" in 2011.  No SB. No playoff win.

 

Yeah, over the course of a full season, Mahomes would have had 30 TDs and 6 INTs.  Not much of a difference and again with a far better supporting cast than ARod.  Meanwhile in 2018 Mahomes had 50 TDs and not even a SB appearance.

 

12 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Rodgers was working with wideouts who wouldn't start for the Bills, which should tell you something.

 

Yeah, except for Adams.

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

What is it post June 1st?

It’s a designation to skirt larger cap hits. 

31 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Rodgers was working with wideouts who wouldn't start for the Bills, which should tell you something.

Davante Adams wouldn’t start for the Bills?

[GoBills808]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

It’s a designation to skirt larger cap hits. 

Davante Adams wouldn’t start for the Bills?

Injured a lot last yr

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

It’s a designation to skirt larger cap hits. 

Davante Adams wouldn’t start for the Bills?

I know that.  
 

 What will his cap hit be post June 1st?

[Victory Formation]

I don’t think you trade Rodgers if you’re Green Bay.. You squeeze another 3 or 4 years out of Rodgers and bench Love until he’s ready. Personally, I think Green Bay really flubbed the dub on Love, I don’t think he’ll be a good QB even if he spends 5 years on the bench. I side with Rodgers, I think their draft sucked. Outside of AJ Dillon their draft is like a Doug Whaley draft. I don’t have faith in their coaching staff neither. Rodgers is an elite QB and the fact that they could only squeeze out one ring out of him is perplexing to me. If I were him I’d look to be traded. They won’t though.. Without Rodgers they’re a 5 win team. I don’t like how that franchise is run, they’ve done well in terms of finding QBs but have never been serious about building a roster around them. I don’t think Green Bay is committed to winning. Once again, without Favre and Rodgers they’re equivalent to the Ralph Wilson Buffalo Bills.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Soooooo did I miss the press conference?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

10 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

Rodgers was working with wideouts who wouldn't start for the Bills, which should tell you something.

Devante would. decent at RB. Rest of that team stinks. 
 

Rodgers has been carrying that franchise for years. 

[Mr. WEO]

10 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

Rodgers was working with wideouts who wouldn't start for the Bills, which should tell you something.

 

Sure did...it told me you don't know who is on the Packers roster.  This take is so hot, I had to leave it on the cooling rack overnight before I could touch it!

 

Adams (3 Pro Bowls in the last 3 seasons) has averaged 1070 yds and 10 TDs per season over the past 4 years, despite missing 8 games.  The Bills had no one close to that last year and those numbers would make him the best WR on the Bills right now.  Last year the Bills had Brown and Beasely and....that's it.  The Packers had 3 other receivers with over 450 yards--over 100 more than Knox.

 

10 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Yeah, over the course of a full season, Mahomes would have had 30 TDs and 6 INTs.  Not much of a difference and again with a far better supporting cast than ARod.  Meanwhile in 2018 Mahomes had 50 TDs and not even a SB appearance.

 

 

Yeah, except for Adams.

 

2018 and no SB?  Blame it on Dee Ford for an incredibly stupid penalty that negated game winning INT.  Or blame it on Playoff Andy Reid who, watching his totally gassed D wilting under what was a 13 play OT NE drive, decided it was best to save his TO's for his 5th career Conference Championship losing locker room.

 

The 2019 Packers were a mirage.  After the bye, they went 6-2 including the playoffs.  Both losses (at the beginning and end of that stretch) were absolute beatings by the same team, the 49ers.

 

But of course, while watching the 49ers dismantle the Packers again after they had just run off 6 straight wins, you were thinking "this team really needs whichever WR is left for the 30th pick of the 2020 NFL Draft!".

 

Meanwhile, the Packers fairly new FO and HC are faced with an aging and slowing Rodgers who is still good enough to have them picking in the high 20's until he's gone and they have no replacement for him.  So they either pick Tee Higgins (for example) thinking "this is the SB piece we are missing to make the SB right now" or they are thinking "Tee Higgins isn't going to get us there right now--no first round pick is, in fact because there are multiple problems with this roster that one pick won't fix".  So they see their next QB who several mocks had slotted in the top 10 dropping to the bottom of the 1st and they spend a few peenies to get him at that bargain price.  Pretty simple.

 

No single player at the 30th pick was going to move their needle this year.  They could have helped themselves at WR or other positions after round 1, but they didn't do much there that's true.   T

 

Edited May 16, 2020 by Mr. WEO