Reality Check Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: Does it work yet? Try Viagra. Edited June 3, 2020 by Reality Check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 16 hours ago, Koko78 said: Wha...? It's almost like the WHO is more interested in playing politics than giving a flying crap about providing actual medical advice. If the WHO cared about health and welfare, they might be using the actual "science" to develop a preventative program. The following 2 articles provide a better understanding of the importance of zinc in stopping the virus. https://marktimon.com/covid-19-viruses-polyphenols-ionophores-and-vulnerability/ https://indigonaturals.net/blogs/news/supplements-that-share-a-key-pathway-with-hydroxychloroquine-for-coronavirus ZINC In simple terms, zinc is the active ingredient that prevents a virus from replicating inside human cells. Without being able to multiply, the natural immune system is thus able to effective combat and eliminate the virus. However, to be effective, zinc must enter a cell. As a metallic ion, zinc on its own cannot pass through the cell membrane. The zinc ion needs an “ionophore” to transport it across the lipid membrane in a cell. IONOPHORE Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine serve as the “ionophore” to transport zinc across the cell membrane. Any “study” that does not include zinc is leaving out the linchpin of the treatment, with the results being worthless. OTHER IONOPHOREs To further highlight the absurdity of the lack of coverage of this treatment, hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are not the only possible ionophores that zinc can use. Certain polyphenols in plants behave as ionophores, but carry a lesser amount of zinc than the above. Quercetin and EGCG act as zinc ionophore for coronavirus. Quercetin can be found in garlic, turmeric, kale, beans, tea, spinach, broccoli, olive leaves and fruit, grapefruit, bergamot, sour orange, tart cherries, tomatoes, cocoa, parsley, onions, celery, thyme, green peppers, chamomile and many more plants. EGCG is found in green tea. CONSEQUENCES Hard to imagine that a preventative recurring treatment sourced by vegetables and over the counter supplements that could eliminate COVID-19 has gotten zero coverage. The risks are essentially non-existent as all of the ingredients are readily available. Better to be locked up at home behind masks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 14 hours ago, BillStime said: “Hydroxychloroquine did not prevent healthy people exposed to covid-19 from getting the disease caused by the coronavirus.” Hydroxychloroquine, a drug promoted by Trump, failed to prevent healthy people from getting covid-19 in trial Never take HCQ comrade. It will kill you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 14 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said: Does it work yet? Hint:. They just changed its name to Hairdroxychloroquine Tip:. Load up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 WAIT, I THOUGHT IT WAS DEADLY POISON: Trump without side effects after two-week course of anti-malaria drug, White House doctor says. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 hours ago, B-Man said: WAIT, I THOUGHT IT WAS DEADLY POISON: Trump without side effects after two-week course of anti-malaria drug, White House doctor says. That is, if he actually took it. Could be the ultimate troll job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: That is, if he actually took it. Could be the ultimate troll job. You are correct. It could be another trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It's just people's lives. That's all. Edited June 4, 2020 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reality Check Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 https://www.zerohedge.com/health/researchers-retract-botched-anti-hcq-study-which-caused-who-halt-trials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 13 hours ago, spartacus said: If the WHO cared about health and welfare, they might be using the actual "science" to develop a preventative program. The following 2 articles provide a better understanding of the importance of zinc in stopping the virus. https://marktimon.com/covid-19-viruses-polyphenols-ionophores-and-vulnerability/ https://indigonaturals.net/blogs/news/supplements-that-share-a-key-pathway-with-hydroxychloroquine-for-coronavirus ZINC In simple terms, zinc is the active ingredient that prevents a virus from replicating inside human cells. Without being able to multiply, the natural immune system is thus able to effective combat and eliminate the virus. However, to be effective, zinc must enter a cell. As a metallic ion, zinc on its own cannot pass through the cell membrane. The zinc ion needs an “ionophore” to transport it across the lipid membrane in a cell. IONOPHORE Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine serve as the “ionophore” to transport zinc across the cell membrane. Any “study” that does not include zinc is leaving out the linchpin of the treatment, with the results being worthless. OTHER IONOPHOREs To further highlight the absurdity of the lack of coverage of this treatment, hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are not the only possible ionophores that zinc can use. Certain polyphenols in plants behave as ionophores, but carry a lesser amount of zinc than the above. Quercetin and EGCG act as zinc ionophore for coronavirus. Quercetin can be found in garlic, turmeric, kale, beans, tea, spinach, broccoli, olive leaves and fruit, grapefruit, bergamot, sour orange, tart cherries, tomatoes, cocoa, parsley, onions, celery, thyme, green peppers, chamomile and many more plants. EGCG is found in green tea. CONSEQUENCES Hard to imagine that a preventative recurring treatment sourced by vegetables and over the counter supplements that could eliminate COVID-19 has gotten zero coverage. The risks are essentially non-existent as all of the ingredients are readily available. Better to be locked up at home behind masks. Not hard. Just like HCQ, there's no money to be made from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: Not hard. Just like HCQ, there's no money to be made from it. Sooo ... why not recommend zinc and broccoli instead of zinc and HCQ. Broccoli might cause indigestion, but it’s no threat to create an arrhythmia, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Sooo ... why not recommend zinc and broccoli instead of zinc and HCQ. Broccoli might cause indigestion, but it’s no threat to create an arrhythmia, right? You want half of America to stop eating broccoli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, Doc said: You want half of America to stop eating broccoli? Wouldn't they have to start eating broccoli in order to stop eating it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 What is the best zinc supplement and best natural ionophore to combine. Asking for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 48 minutes ago, Taro T said: Wouldn't they have to start eating broccoli in order to stop eating it? Lefties are usually vegetarians/vegans so... 47 minutes ago, realtruelove said: What is the best zinc supplement and best natural ionophore to combine. Asking for a friend. Good question. But seriously, can you imagine the reaction from the left/MSM if Trump said "we have to fight this by eating broccoli"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, Doc said: Lefties are usually vegetarians/vegans so... Good question. But seriously, can you imagine the reaction from the left/MSM if Trump said "we have to fight this by eating broccoli"? I would pay money to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc said: Lefties are usually vegetarians/vegans so... Good question. But seriously, can you imagine the reaction from the left/MSM if Trump said "we have to fight this by eating broccoli"? Just because they don't like eating food does NOT ensure they like broccoli. (Though the virtue signaling implies it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gene Frenkle Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Sounds like there were a couple of botched studies. Have they tried it with zinc? Most importantly, does it work yet?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gene Frenkle Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Reality Check said: So, no? Not yet? The wait continues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene Frenkle said: So, no? Not yet? It works. Not for you though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, Reality Check said: It works. Not for you though. Your belief is strong. Don't stop believing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 They’re thinking about doing a CLINICAL TRIAL and the results will provide the answer that you seek. Please come back in six years when the results will be published. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said: Sounds like there were a couple of botched studies. Have they tried it with zinc? Most importantly, does it work yet?? It doesn't bother you that there was a coordinated effort to derail trials and introduce doubts into a potential lifesaving treatment? Edited June 5, 2020 by GG 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Probably not because there’s so much at stake to make the orange man look badder. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said: Your belief is strong. Don't stop believing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 6/2/2020 at 4:10 PM, Magox said: Isn't this the report that the media has been hyperventilating about? And then this Hard to believe that a respected medical publication would ruin their reputation just to make Trump look bad. What makes people want to hurt others to get a shot in at Trump? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Hard to believe that a respected medical publication would ruin their reputation just to make Trump look bad. What makes people want to hurt others to get a shot in at Trump? Trump is in the way of their agenda. That is why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Hard to believe that a respected medical publication would ruin their reputation just to make Trump look bad. What makes people want to hurt others to get a shot in at Trump? Well, they retracted today, sooooo...Retraction—Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: a multinational registry analysis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 12 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Sooo ... why not recommend zinc and broccoli instead of zinc and HCQ. Broccoli might cause indigestion, but it’s no threat to create an arrhythmia, right? We need the Big Broccoli lobby to get on that stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: We need the Big Broccoli lobby to get on that stat. The country would be full of stinky piss. But we would be healthier for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said: Sounds like there were a couple of botched studies. Have they tried it with zinc? Most importantly, does it work yet?? Ask Amy. She says yes. She might be Vice President, and maybe President one day. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Just Joshin' said: Hard to believe that a respected medical publication would ruin their reputation just to make Trump look bad. What makes people want to hurt others to get a shot in at Trump? TDS is a crippling condition if left unchecked. And the Trump curse is very real. They should have known. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 ...so mea culpas are forthcoming (COUGH)??………….. Network newscasts skip major hydroxychloroquine report retractions, org says By Brian Flood | Fox News Evening newscasts on ABC, CBS and NBC all ignored experts raising “serious scientific questions” about the data used for controversial research into the effectiveness of potential COVID-19 drug hydroxychloroquine, according to the conservative media watchdog group NewsBusters. “All three [networks] had used the study to chide President Trump for pushing the drug and taking it himself,” NewsBuster analyst Nicholas Fondacaro, who studied the coverage, wrote. A database by the Chicago company Surgisphere Corp. was used in an observational study of nearly 100,000 patients published on May 22 in the influential Lancet journal that tied the malaria drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to a higher risk of death in hospitalized patients with the virus. The validity of the data, however, has been called into question. The Lancet first published an “expression of concern” with the study after “serious scientific questions” were brought to its attention. It then retracted the report altogether on Thursday. A separate paper, which also used the Surgisphere data, was also retracted from The New England Journal of Medicine. Earlier this week the NEJM issued an “expression of concern” regarding the study published May 1 that suggested widely used blood pressure medicines were not raising the risk of death for people with COVID-19. https://www.foxnews.com/media/network-newscasts-skip-hydroxychloroquine-report-retractions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 45 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so mea culpas are forthcoming (COUGH)??………….. Network newscasts skip major hydroxychloroquine report retractions, org says By Brian Flood | Fox News Evening newscasts on ABC, CBS and NBC all ignored experts raising “serious scientific questions” about the data used for controversial research into the effectiveness of potential COVID-19 drug hydroxychloroquine, according to the conservative media watchdog group NewsBusters. “All three [networks] had used the study to chide President Trump for pushing the drug and taking it himself,” NewsBuster analyst Nicholas Fondacaro, who studied the coverage, wrote. A database by the Chicago company Surgisphere Corp. was used in an observational study of nearly 100,000 patients published on May 22 in the influential Lancet journal that tied the malaria drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to a higher risk of death in hospitalized patients with the virus. The validity of the data, however, has been called into question. The Lancet first published an “expression of concern” with the study after “serious scientific questions” were brought to its attention. It then retracted the report altogether on Thursday. A separate paper, which also used the Surgisphere data, was also retracted from The New England Journal of Medicine. Earlier this week the NEJM issued an “expression of concern” regarding the study published May 1 that suggested widely used blood pressure medicines were not raising the risk of death for people with COVID-19. https://www.foxnews.com/media/network-newscasts-skip-hydroxychloroquine-report-retractions Interesting. You'd think that allegedly unbiased news organizations like the ones above would seek to correct the incorrect "news" they gleefully peddled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 that's asparagus...get your green veggies straight man!!! 3 hours ago, SectionC3 said: The country would be full of stinky piss. But we would be healthier for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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